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Sunday, October 7th 2012, 10:33pm

This is getting extremely old

I can be playing for 5 minutes or 12 hours, but I will randomly disconnect. EVERYTIME I do my ui is reset. When I start the client, I get "not responding", when I log back to the character screen I get "not responding", when I zone, I get "not responding". What the hell is wrong with your client? This is the only application I use that ever does this. I am getting so sick of having to spend a hour 5-6 times a week to reset my ui everytime I disconnect. Please don't tell me to back up my interface folder, I've done that. After a reset, I log off, replace the current interface folder with my backup, and yep... it's still reset. Something in this client is corrupting files and needs to be fixed. I know the constant resets have driven away some players that really loved the game, but won't put up with the resets like this.

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Monday, October 8th 2012, 1:52pm

Check router, your isp, wireless (if using)... too many things can disconnect your client.

It happens to me, but it is mostly my ISP doing something...

As for reset of UI, this is what I have done - delete savevariable from your ROM folder. Start only 1 client and set it the way you like. Close client and BACK UP the file. From there, every time your UI get's messed up, just close clients, restore file and client is back to the way it was.

Every time I like to make change/update addons (or add/remove them) I backup that file as well.

EDIT: Download CleanMEM utility. Pazz told us his secret, and tell ya, this utility makes my client much more stable. Last night was in Varenas, Heffner, Silverfall, Ravenfell, Dalanis, KOR, TB, SS and SL and no problems with memory or client. Thank you Pazz for sharing the secret! :)

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Monday, October 8th 2012, 6:05pm

Have you even bothered to look at your settings file after corruption to see what is causing the problem? Have you tried to compare corrupted file and uncorrupted one to figure out which addon is causing problem (and, yes, 99% of the time it is an addon). Have you tried to run without that addon? Have you configured your UI from scratch, backed up that version, verified that it is clean and then used that backup as base of your restore.

Problems with any kind of freedom given by a game or program or OS to install extension is that the more freedom you give, the more functionality people can add - but the more freedom you give, the more problems can seep through.

And, yeah, CleanMem helps, but that is not what the OP's problem is, most likely. Still, very very much worth using, agree. Well, maybe not CleanMem, but MemClean is. :p
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Monday, October 8th 2012, 6:14pm

You sure you got the good one? (CleanMem) :)

http://majorgeeks.com/CleanMem_d5993.html

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Monday, October 8th 2012, 6:15pm

A good way to make your settings stay is to go to Interface settings ingame, and check the box at the bottom that says Server Save.

Will save your settings the way they are no matter where you log into the game as.

This doesnt work for addons however. Addon settings are saved to your pc.
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Monday, October 8th 2012, 6:41pm

Quoted from "RoMage;573061"

You sure you got the good one? (CleanMem) :)

http://majorgeeks.com/CleanMem_d5993.html


Hey, you were the one who told me to check Pazuzzu's post to see what to run.

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…ll=1#post570176

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i use extra special like memory defragger..theres a free one called memclean. set it to run every 5 mins. on winblows7 my client.exe averages ~200k mem usage


They do appear to have similar functionality. Just that one of them is dyslexic.
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Monday, October 8th 2012, 7:08pm

LOL, Since when you listen to Pazz?? :D (check screenshot that goes with that post, indeed its cleanmem :))

Similar products, not sure if other one does the same thing with the game client.

@RegenL - yep, saving on server does marvelous job if you plan to use 2 computers and for example connect ingame from work. Does work great for me.

But the one he has problems with is savevariables.lua and backing up good one is first step.

I know AH can mess it up bad, at least for me.

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Monday, October 8th 2012, 7:20pm

Quoted from "RoMage;573035"

Check router, your isp, wireless (if using)... too many things can disconnect your client.

It happens to me, but it is mostly my ISP doing something...

As for reset of UI, this is what I have done - delete savevariable from your ROM folder. Start only 1 client and set it the way you like. Close client and BACK UP the file. From there, every time your UI get's messed up, just close clients, restore file and client is back to the way it was.

Every time I like to make change/update addons (or add/remove them) I backup that file as well.

EDIT: Download CleanMEM utility. Pazz told us his secret, and tell ya, this utility makes my client much more stable. Last night was in Varenas, Heffner, Silverfall, Ravenfell, Dalanis, KOR, TB, SS and SL and no problems with memory or client. Thank you Pazz for sharing the secret! :)


The problem is I know it's not my router, isp or anything like that because I can run dual clients and it will only happen to one client, not the other. Once I redo my ui after a reset, I logout back to the character screen, then exit the client completely, copy the interface folder to a different location and log back in. I don't make changes to my ui while running 2 clients.

Quoted from "ReagenL;573062"

A good way to make your settings stay is to go to Interface settings ingame, and check the box at the bottom that says Server Save.

Will save your settings the way they are no matter where you log into the game as.

This doesnt work for addons however. Addon settings are saved to your pc.


This doesn't work. I have it on server save and yet when my ui is reset, so is the setting from the client itself. Such as "hide scrollbanner", the channel selection buttons and items like that. I have to redo those items also, so server save isn't saving my settings after a reset.


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Have you even bothered to look at your settings file after corruption to see what is causing the problem? Have you tried to compare corrupted file and uncorrupted one to figure out which addon is causing problem (and, yes, 99% of the time it is an addon). Have you tried to run without that addon? Have you configured your UI from scratch, backed up that version, verified that it is clean and then used that backup as base of your restore.

Problems with any kind of freedom given by a game or program or OS to install extension is that the more freedom you give, the more functionality people can add - but the more freedom you give, the more problems can seep through.

And, yeah, CleanMem helps, but that is not what the OP's problem is, most likely. Still, very very much worth using, agree. Well, maybe not CleanMem, but MemClean is. :p


I don't know what you mean by looking at my settings after a corruption. What exactly am I supposed to be looking at? If I knew what files was corrupted I'd be able to replace just that file, so no I haven't compared corrupted with non corrupted files. Yes I have tried playing without any addons what so ever. It was fine for a few days, the guess what... a disconnect and all settings were reset to default.

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Monday, October 8th 2012, 7:39pm

Vfwiffo is talking about SaveVariables.lua that is in Runes of Magic folder (hidden) in My Documents folder on your computer.

Backing only that file, and restoring it when everything goes kaput it will fix your UI back to what it was at the time you restore it.

Comparing it to broken one will tell you what is different and point to what is broken, but that require a bit of knowledge on add-ons.

In my example, mostly problem happens if I try to store on that file while with 2 clients connected. For example, if you open AH on 2 clients, and try to save 'search' in AAH, it will try to write 2 things to the same location and most likely it will corrupt your savevariables.lua file. (happened to me multiple times)

If you have 2 clients, one with bad settings and other one with good and no saved settings file, this is what I did: close bad one and watch savevariables.lua grow (you can tell something is wrong with the file), then delete file and close good client. This would mostly fix file by itself.

Take a look at clean memory program. It saved me a lot of trouble in game.
Hope this helps.

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Monday, October 8th 2012, 8:11pm

I've been having that happen with me before, about the UI resetting even while on server save.
What addons do you have. What I found out what my problem was, is that I had an addon that wasnt working right anymore, and it was screwing up my UI settings.
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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 12:18am

Quoted from "ReagenL;573081"

I've been having that happen with me before, about the UI resetting even while on server save.
What addons do you have. What I found out what my problem was, is that I had an addon that wasnt working right anymore, and it was screwing up my UI settings.


I have 31 addons. I can list them all if need be. All are up to date with the current versions with the exception of xbar, there are a few things in the newest update I don't like so I purposely haven't updated that one.

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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 12:36am

k..UI thing.

1st. delete ur hiddin folder entirely. then login and make sure server save is NOT checked. relog if it is...delete the hidden folder then log back and setup ur UI

2nd. return to character selection..then exit (clean release)

now copy the hidden folder somewhere to have a restore. the UI not saving is due to win7 periodically re-doing permissions on your mydocs/libraries in its default security audits and... sometimes after maintenance it doesnt like client.exe having a different md5. you HAVE to delete the existing folder before adding your saved restore copy, or else the permission just stay fail.

the UI reset is usually having 2 accounts open and logging off your alt before your main, plus the permissions being winblowed. corruption is rare now since winblows 7 has a builting stream corruption detection and restores automatically from its "previous version" db ( which can also change the permissions and not allow rom to write randomly...run the client as admin by default makes it a bit less common but still happens)

random dc's that are fairly consistently timed are generally the fail asss win default firewall and/or security killing the port if its being hit too frequently with nearly identical packets. but it could be a ton of different things depending on ur setup. its not rom actually, for once. rom has VERY lenient desync socket kills. i was deliberately desynchronizing with miscoded/unasked for/ and dropped packets when the tergothen bay pullback was happening....see if was server side or in-flight.

rom just ignored me and let me fail as i willed :P

i would make sure the client has full traversal through the firewall on all ports, run as admin and port forwarded specifically in ur router. should make it go away

unless its every hour, on the hour. then you have Comcast and ur on ur own