Ranged Charged Chop in siege - shoots through wall - Bug reports

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 5:02am

Ranged Charged Chop in siege - shoots through wall

Just wanted to post a bug that happened in siege tonight. A guild from Osha [redacted] kept having their warden/scout use ranged charge chop shoot down our towers and kill players through the walls. Sorry thats just like using shadow step to get inside the guild. You need to fix this.

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Kefkai

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 5:12am

Quoted from "Friendly;525179"

Just wanted to post a bug that happened in siege tonight. A guild from Osha [redacted] kept having their warden/scout use ranged charge chop shoot down our towers and kill players through the walls. Sorry thats just like using shadow step to get inside the guild. You need to fix this.

Lol, like there aren't tons of other exploitable skills that need to be fixed, for some Runewaker was happy just fixing all but a handful of skills, complaining about just one of them won't get you anywhere.

I'm surprised you've not run into others, atleast Charged Chop has a cooldown.

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Friendly

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 8:01am

Quoted from "Kefkai;525182"

Lol, like there aren't tons of other exploitable skills that need to be fixed, for some Runewaker was happy just fixing all but a handful of skills, complaining about just one of them won't get you anywhere.

I'm surprised you've not run into others, atleast Charged Chop has a cooldown.

I'm glad you can contribute nothing to this.... wait, no I'm not. This is the bugs forum, and this is a bug in the game, hence the post. Go troll somewhere else.

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GarryL

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 10:02am

Quite a few skills still go through gates. I'm not listing the ones I know because instead of being fixed it will just result in more people using them.

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Kefkai

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 7:41pm

Quoted from "Friendly;525195"

I'm glad you can contribute nothing to this.... wait, no I'm not. This is the bugs forum, and this is a bug in the game, hence the post. Go troll somewhere else.

It's a well known bug is the point, has been since the LoS update and fairly well documented.

They haven't fixed the others, they're not fixing this one any time soon.

Honestly it feels like the whole Line of Sight update was a troll by Runewaker in the first place since they didn't fix so many skills.

The part that made me laugh was "Sorry thats just like using shadow step to get inside the guild. You need to fix this." you missed the number of topics that involved LoS issues, and makes it sound like you haven't ran into the worse ones. Honestly the aoe ones feel the most screwed up since Mages can thunderstorm through the gates to kill processing factories.

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flyingltj

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 8:06pm

Quoted from "Kefkai;525279"

It's a well known bug is the point, has been since the LoS update and fairly well documented.

They haven't fixed the others, they're not fixing this one any time soon.

Honestly it feels like the whole Line of Sight update was a troll by Runewaker in the first place since they didn't fix so many skills.

The part that made me laugh was "Sorry thats just like using shadow step to get inside the guild. You need to fix this." you missed the number of topics that involved LoS issues, and makes it sound like you haven't ran into the worse ones. Honestly the aoe ones feel the most screwed up since Mages can thunderstorm through the gates to kill processing factories.

So, just because a bug exists in the game which is:

- Not being addressed
- Seriously impacting the players enjoyment of the game
- Has been mentioned in the past, to which no resolution ever came about

This means we should cease reporting this as an ongoing problem? Sorry, cant say I agree with that defeatist mentality

Perhaps instead of getting your kicks off people who're trying to report bugs, you could move yourself to the offtopic section. Thanks.

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Kefkai

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Monday, April 16th 2012, 8:26pm

Quoted from "flyingltj;525289"

So, just because a bug exists in the game which is:

- Not being addressed
- Seriously impacting the players enjoyment of the game
- Has been mentioned in the past, to which no resolution ever came about

This means we should cease reporting this as an ongoing problem? Sorry, cant say I agree with that defeatist mentality

Perhaps instead of getting your kicks off people who're trying to report bugs, you could move yourself to the offtopic section. Thanks.

You're saying an issue that should've been already forwarded to Runewaker the day the patch came out and complained about by users in multiple topics, many that have had many pages long in the discussion section, you're saying that we should create additional topics in different sections about it?

It's not defeatist, it just seems un-needed, this topic isn't going to be the one that gets the problem resolved, just sayin'.

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camagic

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Tuesday, April 17th 2012, 11:06am

Dont even think that it is just the ranged charged chop. A lot of range skills go through the walls. This includes all elites and item set skills that are ranged. I am guessing that there are also some other ranged skills that are not blocked. Well, enjoy those walls you all spend all those resources your guild spent, all of which for seemingly nothing. The real fix would be to make the walls a building, so it will properly block ranged skills. The walls could be a level 200 elite building, which all the buildings, towers, guards, and (most importantly) siege equipment should be---but, whatever, that will not really happen.

So to sum up the situation:
Mediocrity-by time you realize it, it will be too late anyway.

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Silenteye7

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Wednesday, April 18th 2012, 1:07am

hey... the way it's "supposed" to work... is find a bug, report a bug, fix a bug. I think friendly was in the right to bring something that he saw was broken to light, and ask for a fix. Anyone who wants to fight that point is just broken in the head, cause defending the use of it, or trying to tell people, "nothing to see here, move along," doesn't really solve anything.

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Quaffy2

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Wednesday, April 18th 2012, 3:15am

Quoted from "camagic;525461"

Dont even think that it is just the ranged charged chop. A lot of range skills go through the walls. This includes all elites and item set skills that are ranged.

Not true, if only my lovely iceblade elite could go through walls...Get on that frogster, make my iceblade go through stuff like the other ranged elites do =)

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Roeksha

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Monday, April 23rd 2012, 8:21pm

Quoted from "Kefkai;525279"

It's a well known bug is the point, has been since the LoS update and fairly well documented.

They haven't fixed the others, they're not fixing this one any time soon.

Honestly it feels like the whole Line of Sight update was a troll by Runewaker in the first place since they didn't fix so many skills.

The part that made me laugh was "Sorry thats just like using shadow step to get inside the guild. You need to fix this." you missed the number of topics that involved LoS issues, and makes it sound like you haven't ran into the worse ones. Honestly the aoe ones feel the most screwed up since Mages can thunderstorm through the gates to kill processing factories.

Excuse me, but the only documented skills who I have so far is Flame Spirit, feel free to create a larger list for me (It'd even be greatly appreciated)

For now, I will add this one to the ticket opened towards our Developers.

I will leave the thread in this section in case somebody wishes to add more skills to the list.

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Ravesden

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Monday, April 23rd 2012, 8:43pm

Skilled that I've come across that go through siege gates:

S/Wd's Charged Chop
S/K's Ranged Disarmament

Skill that goes through immune food:
W/K's Shield of Atonement

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flyingltj

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Monday, April 23rd 2012, 8:59pm

Quoted from "Roeksha;526933"

Excuse me, but the only documented skills who I have so far is Flame Spirit, feel free to create a larger list for me (It'd even be greatly appreciated) For now, I will add this one to the ticket opened towards our Developers.

I will leave the thread in this section in case somebody wishes to add more skills to the list.

Roeksha, check your PM's. I sent you an unofficial probably incomplete list of the skills ive seen thus far that go through walls. Do not want to post that list here because I do not want to turn the community at large on to some of these that arnt frequently discussed.