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Thursday, August 29th 2013, 4:34pm

{Rogue/Priest] Rogue Energy Drains more than supposed to especially when 70 Elite Skill activates.

Description:

To reproduce to problem:

Must be 70/70 Rogue/Priest and have the Elite skill Demonstration of Evil.

Simply apply a rotation of Blind Spot Attack (25 eng points), follow by Low Blow (30 eng points) which should drain 55 energy points AT MOST.

That's assuming no regeneration of energy occurs. What happens however is I end up with 0 rogue energy points after applying ONLY those 2 hits.

The 70 elite happens randomly so it wont happen EVERY time you apply these 2 hits so you may have to try a few times to see the effect.

Also note that the elite has a cooldown time so if you manage to make it activate once you will have to wait for the cooldown to make it activate acgain.


Version:

6.0.1.2655.en and any previous versions dating all the way back to when level 70 first came out.

Server:

Reni - US



Screenshot:

attached but cant actually show what is happening. I have video that shows exactly what is happening.

For the purpose of the screenshot though I only hit that boss twice, 1 blind spot, 1 low blow and my rogue energy is 0 as shown in the picture
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Monday, November 18th 2013, 9:49pm

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:
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Monday, November 18th 2013, 9:59pm

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Tuesday, November 19th 2013, 5:02pm

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:


my other thread has better picture details ( with 4 blow by blow pictures) then this one. but this has been a problem for at least a year. I have posted several threads and tickets and rom support just doesn't seem to care. Seems to me like if its not rogue/mage warrior/mage champion/rogue then in roms eye it just doesn't matter.

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Wednesday, November 20th 2013, 9:10pm

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:


my other thread has better picture details ( with 4 blow by blow pictures) then this one. but this has been a problem for at least a year. I have posted several threads and tickets and rom support just doesn't seem to care. Seems to me like if its not rogue/mage warrior/mage champion/rogue then in roms eye it just doesn't matter.
My alt is a r/m, it's not like that class was always op. The traps were a lot of fun, I never did understand why they got rid of them.

Anyway, back on subject....

R/P has been in dire need of an overhaul for some time now. The 70 elite looks promising but with a severe energy drain the class is basically rendered useless. We need another useful mana-based skill as well. Kick just isn't enough lol
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Wednesday, November 20th 2013, 9:14pm

My alt is a r/m, it's not like that class was always op. The traps were a lot of fun, I never did understand why they got rid of them.

i thought the same thing...WTB old r/m back QQ...


R/P has been in dire need of an overhaul for some time now. The 70 elite looks promising but with a severe energy drain the class is basically rendered useless. We need another useful mana-based skill as well. Kick just isn't enough lol

this is an issue with many hybrid combos, so it's not just r/p...while i do not foresee them being changed to be high dps, i also don't want them to go the way of the r/m, and get a new set of elite(that are boring as heck imo)...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Wednesday, November 20th 2013, 11:54pm

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:


my other thread has better picture details ( with 4 blow by blow pictures) then this one. but this has been a problem for at least a year. I have posted several threads and tickets and rom support just doesn't seem to care. Seems to me like if its not rogue/mage warrior/mage champion/rogue then in roms eye it just doesn't matter.
My alt is a r/m, it's not like that class was always op. The traps were a lot of fun, I never did understand why they got rid of them.

Anyway, back on subject....

R/P has been in dire need of an overhaul for some time now. The 70 elite looks promising but with a severe energy drain the class is basically rendered useless. We need another useful mana-based skill as well. Kick just isn't enough lol


r.p does NOT need a massive overhaul it simply needs to be fixed so I can do my rotations.

r.p does not need another mana based dps skill, kick is enough.

The 70 elite is not promising its stupidly lame adds party crit to other members does nothing for r.p and belongs on a party buff char like warlock not a rogue.


And contrary to popular belief r.p is high dps, (perhaps not as high as some of the more commonly overdone/over buffd chars), however when/if I can do my rotations ... bring on your r/m's. Ill happily take the challenge of overcoming stupidly overdone skills pass or fail bring it on.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "danielrayment" (Nov 20th 2013, 11:59pm)


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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 1:23am

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:


my other thread has better picture details ( with 4 blow by blow pictures) then this one. but this has been a problem for at least a year. I have posted several threads and tickets and rom support just doesn't seem to care. Seems to me like if its not rogue/mage warrior/mage champion/rogue then in roms eye it just doesn't matter.
My alt is a r/m, it's not like that class was always op. The traps were a lot of fun, I never did understand why they got rid o

r.p does NOT need a massive overhaul it simply needs to be fixed so I can do my rotations.

r.p does not need another mana based dps skill, kick is enough.

The 70 elite is not promising its stupidly lame adds party crit to other members does nothing for r.p and belongs on a party buff char like warlock not a rogue.


And contrary to popular belief r.p is high dps, (perhaps not as high as some of the more commonly overdone/over buffd chars), however when/if I can do my rotations ... bring on your r/m's. Ill happily take the challenge of overcoming stupidly overdone skills pass or fail bring it on.
How is a party buff lame? Half of Sinister Methods for your party = WIN.

You are looking at R/P from a PVP perspective, I am viewing it as PVE based.
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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 1:54am

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:


my other thread has better picture details ( with 4 blow by blow pictures) then this one. but this has been a problem for at least a year. I have posted several threads and tickets and rom support just doesn't seem to care. Seems to me like if its not rogue/mage warrior/mage champion/rogue then in roms eye it just doesn't matter.
My alt is a r/m, it's not like that class was always op. The traps were a lot of fun, I never did understand why they got rid o

r.p does NOT need a massive overhaul it simply needs to be fixed so I can do my rotations.

r.p does not need another mana based dps skill, kick is enough.

The 70 elite is not promising its stupidly lame adds party crit to other members does nothing for r.p and belongs on a party buff char like warlock not a rogue.


And contrary to popular belief r.p is high dps, (perhaps not as high as some of the more commonly overdone/over buffd chars), however when/if I can do my rotations ... bring on your r/m's. Ill happily take the challenge of overcoming stupidly overdone skills pass or fail bring it on.
How is a party buff lame? Half of Sinister Methods for your party = WIN.

You are looking at R/P from a PVP perspective, I am viewing it as PVE based.

BTW This is still a problem. :thumbdown:


my other thread has better picture details ( with 4 blow by blow pictures) then this one. but this has been a problem for at least a year. I have posted several threads and tickets and rom support just doesn't seem to care. Seems to me like if its not rogue/mage warrior/mage champion/rogue then in roms eye it just doesn't matter.
My alt is a r/m, it's not like that class was always op. The traps were a lot of fun, I never did understand why they got rid o

r.p does NOT need a massive overhaul it simply needs to be fixed so I can do my rotations.

r.p does not need another mana based dps skill, kick is enough.

The 70 elite is not promising its stupidly lame adds party crit to other members does nothing for r.p and belongs on a party buff char like warlock not a rogue.


And contrary to popular belief r.p is high dps, (perhaps not as high as some of the more commonly overdone/over buffd chars), however when/if I can do my rotations ... bring on your r/m's. Ill happily take the challenge of overcoming stupidly overdone skills pass or fail bring it on.
How is a party buff lame? Half of Sinister Methods for your party = WIN.

You are looking at R/P from a PVP perspective, I am viewing it as PVE based.



LOL. I don't play PVP I am all about PVE.


A party crit buff IS lame for a rogue elite. Its meant for warlock type class helper chars. Demo/Evil ...does nothing over and above Sinister Methods for you the r/p. While there are worse elites out there .... its still lame. If I am soling stuff or 2 man running stuff with a healer for example a "party pcrit" buff accomplishes NOTHING.

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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 2:51am

Daniel, u don't like how elites are set up, ROLL ANOTHER COMBO!!! seriously...r/p isn't a full DPS combo, it is already support due to the elites...u want a full DPS combo, go roll a r/wdn or r/m...

that's like a r/m complaining that he has no support skills...

r/p isn't high DPS due to the lack of filler skills(mana based attacks Michele was talking about)...all the high DPS rogues have filler skills, and that's what pushes their DPS above other rogue combos...r/p is set up for PvP/cc, with a bit of support...


while I know 70 elite is broke, and I want it fixed too, but just because your combo is not set up optimally for what you do, that is no reason to complain about it having stupid elites...like I said, u don't like how ur combo is set up, go find a new combo...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Cike" (Nov 21st 2013, 2:59am)


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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 3:27pm

Daniel, u don't like how elites are set up, ROLL ANOTHER COMBO!!! seriously...r/p isn't a full DPS combo, it is already support due to the elites...u want a full DPS combo, go roll a r/wdn or r/m...

that's like a r/m complaining that he has no support skills...

r/p isn't high DPS due to the lack of filler skills(mana based attacks Michele was talking about)...all the high DPS rogues have filler skills, and that's what pushes their DPS above other rogue combos...r/p is set up for PvP/cc, with a bit of support...


while I know 70 elite is broke, and I want it fixed too, but just because your combo is not set up optimally for what you do, that is no reason to complain about it having stupid elites...like I said, u don't like how ur combo is set up, go find a new combo...



dude you need to get a life off of rom forums. every post I do get involved with there ya are arguing stupidly. Sometimes I think your just on these forums cause ya like to argue.

DO NOT TELL ME what R.P IS and ISNT! You have no idea what your talking about. I have been playing R.P ALL MY ROM LIFE. I can out dps 80%-90% of my server EVEN BROKEN AS IS. THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO ARGUE IN. This thread is ABOUT FIXING THE PROBLEM. This isn't about fixing what 70 elite does for the good.... but rather fixing what is does for the bad ..... ANY ROGUE THAT LOSES TWICE OR MORE THE ENERGY ITS SUPPOSED TO WILL SUFFER HUGE. EVEN YOUR PRECIOUS R.M.

Im done arguing about this with you .... I know you like getting the last word in so say whatever your gonna say ..... I don't care......

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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 5:34pm

Cike, i agree with Daniel, his combo has been broken for like EVER!! they need to fix it. I have run instances with him, let me tell you R/P is awesome. He likes to solo stuff and he can heal himself, he knows is class all so well. They just need to adress this and fix it, can't be that hard.

Keep at it Daniel, i really hope they fix this class combo.

Play the class you like and not what people want to to play, use the one you have fun or don't play at all. ;-)

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Thursday, November 21st 2013, 10:15pm

I have no issue with people playing the class they want. I have no issue with people wanting a class buffed. dude, u may be the best rogue on the us servers, and I'd respect that, I am not saying you can't play your class either. what I have an issue with is someone who complains that the combo they choose to play does not fulfil their needs, and wants elites catered to them...I happen to like my r/p the way it is, optimized for PvP/cc/support, yeah u may not agree, but it's like me complaining about how s/d has too many party buffs...if I wanted a high dps, full pve scout, I'd just go roll a s/w, instead of qqing about how s/d doesn't do what I want...

and yea, I do try to respond if you have a position different than mine, just to provide my opinion, because you have already provided your opinion...


FYI, s/d 60 elite still broke also, so you're not the only one playing with broken skills...
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Sunday, December 1st 2013, 4:23pm

so I have yet to read anything past my last post nor will I bother wasting my time and energy reading anything cike (or anyone with such a narrow view) says pertaining to r/p.

If whatever he said after my last post is related to FIXING THE PROBLEM that this thread addresses than I apologize for assuming that it was probably some stupid blah about his opinion on r.p. Ya tell some people 2+2 = 4 and they will find some way to argue that also. Rest assured while he's stocking this thread waiting for me to get into some stupid pointless argument about stuff he don't have a clue about, Im busy out dpsing many r.m , r.wrd, w.m (certainly not all of them of course as some are uberly geard ( t12 daggers wtf :P ) and I still have my broken issues to deal with).

If only rom would address the gdam issue of my rogue energy draining ... plz and ty.
Please note that for anyone who truly wants to understand the issue my other thread a couple pages in (as we speak its page 3) has clip by clip pictures of the same boss fight this clip has. It blows that I pretty much have to take blind spot out of my rotation :{ cause of this stupid bug, but low blow also causes the problem so regardless of whether I use blind spot or not I cant escape the issue.



see how long it takes before mr I need the last word responds ..... rest assured I wont be reading whatever he has to say. But I don't mind having him reply if it keeps this thread on page 1 so it gets the attention it needs.

back to playing the game

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