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Cike

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Tuesday, October 22nd 2013, 10:35pm

Scout skill Shot uses wrong CD

Title: Scout skill shot does not adjust cooldown according to ranged weapon speed.

Description: Shot tooltip CD changes according to ranged weapon speed, modified by skills and buffs. The actual cooldown is supposed to reflect the tooltip CD, except it doesn't. Shot actual CD seems to be stuck at 2 seconds, regardless of ranged weapon speed. Confirmed by more than 1 person(s/d, s/m), but another m/s says this does not happen to them. an easy way to test this is to get 2 bows different enough in speed such that the tooltip CD says 1 second for the fast one, and 2 seconds for the slow one. The actual shots appear to fire at the same rate regardless of bow used or ranged weapon speed.

Version: current?

Server:Confirmed on both reni and palenque, maybe others.

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Wednesday, October 23rd 2013, 3:43am

this happens purely due to rounding.

a shot cd of 1 sec means 1.001<cd<1.999
a shot cd of 2 sec means 2.001<cd<2.999
etc

on standard bows/xbows for example:
standard bow : original_speed = 3, speed = 1.845 (after 38.5% mastery). shot shows 1 sec cd
standard xbow : original_speed = 4, speed = 2.46 (after 38.5% mastery). shot shows 2 sec cd

shot cd is not stuck at 2secs. just take a bow of speed <=2.4 and u ll see that shot is almost spammable (1.2-1.5 sec cd).

about the point of the two bows firing at same rate although shot tooltip says 1 and 2 secs, i guess its something like 1.95 and 2.05 speed for tehse cases and tehy fie at same rate, or something like that.

can u plz confirm these in your tests?

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Wednesday, October 23rd 2013, 3:55am

the other person who tested with me has a CD meter or combat log(forgot which) that records to the 10th of a second. a 2.5 speed bow and 4 speed bow recorded the same exact time, even at that accurate of a measurement. also, iirc, shot rounds to the nearest second, which is a mechanic that they haven't changed from chapter 3, they just added a lower limit CD of GCD.

next time i get ingame, i will test some more
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Wednesday, October 23rd 2013, 3:59am

about the tooltip info:

take a deagon fiend bow (well, tahts what i had in chest)

original_speed = 2.4
speed = 1.476 (with 38.5% mastery) ==> shot shows 1sec cd
speed = 1.107 (play lute on top) ==> shot shows 1sec cd
speed = 0.83 (use strong stimulant) ==> shot shows 0sec cd ;)


[ edit ]
about the shot spam:

i use the addon u refering to, too. its callled ntCombatLogMod and has a precision of 0.1secs.
when i "spam" shot with my xbow of 4 speed (original one) i get cd on shot spam
when i use dragon fiend bow of 2.4 speed i can almost spam it

the difference is almost obvious that doesnt need to be recorded. idk if i spam every 1 sec or 1.5 (1.476secs precisely), but with xbow of speed 4 it shoots every 2.46 according to calculations.
tehre is a major difference in the numbers as u see (1.476 and 2.46) which should make it obvious even without any addon

i may go try test in some duel soon to see, but from my experience it is clear that with 2.4 speed u "spam" shot, while with 4 speed u fill skills in-between due to cd involved after firing

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "achilleas1" (Oct 23rd 2013, 4:08am)

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Wednesday, October 23rd 2013, 4:10am

idc about the tooltip tbh, i more care about the fact that a 4 speed bow and a 2.5 speed bow register as the same speed...

and yes, the CD on the tooltip is a bit borked, i'll give you that...

in any case, the actual CD =/= tooltip CD, which is fine, tbh, idc...

achilleas, have you tried actually equipping various speed bows and just spamming shot on a low level boss? even with a 2.5 speed bow, the CD on shot comes up noticeably later than all the other GCD, even when buffed with attack speed.

edit to respond to your edit: yes, that is how it is supposed, and expected to work. except i was playing around, and i noticed this was not the case, so i conferred with an association on reni with that addon, and he came to the conclusion i outlined above. shot's CD was not being modified by ranged attack speed. it only seems to effect a couple people i have found, while others works as intended...if it's any help, i am s/d and he was s/m, while another, separate, m/s did not have the issue. i will try and ask the s/m to try m/s so i have a constant in the test, as the weird CD may be combo-specific...
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Wednesday, October 23rd 2013, 4:34am

just tested.

used a bow of 2.5 speed and an xbow of 3.5. both fro varanas npc and used them on giant.
we all know that the gcd as implemented in game is already broken so i speak of the average values between shots.

yes, indeed, with a bow of 2.5 i should fire every 1.5 sec, yet, in average i fired every 2secs (1.5-2.5 ranging)

same happened with xbow. 3.5 speed. i should fire every 2.2secs, yet in average i fired every 2 (again 1.5-2.5 range)

CD is indeed broken. confirmed.


[off-topic]

the majority of my tests were made with dragon fiend bow of speed 2.4. with this i have the result of spamming shot ...
shot does not enter a cd at all with this bow, is ablsolutely spammable, and recorded every 1sec at dmg log too

it is indeed remarkable to test with dragon fiend bow and the varanas npc bow. these r of 2.4 and 2.5 speeds. yet the result is shooting evry 1 and 2 secs respectively.
Major Bug !!!

this has been already reported at other post but hadnt realised the gap between the two.

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