Runes of Magic US / AU

If making money is their 1st priority , we should be expecting many such "poor" balancing to appear in future. Can't blame them , they are running a business. But the way they do it is just like killing the golden goose to get 1 golden egg.

Quoted from "MegaMouseSEC;499601"

The only oes that complain about class imbalance are the scumbag PvP crowd. Each class has its job and if they would stick to what that job was formulated in teh begining and tell players to learn each class before crying fowl everyone would be happy.
When The PvP crowd starts to cry fowl over one so called op class I ahve this suggestion for them: Either learn each class and find out waht makes them tick, or jsut go play a fighting game where every move can be countered by slamming your head on the keyboard/joystick and buttons.
RoM is an MMORPG, not some face slamming fest for people to just roll their faces on the keyboard. Who gives a crap about how much DPS each class does. If people would just sit back and LEARN their respective classes and play them like they are suppsoed to be played posts like this would not be made.

The entire point of a multi-class system with multiple gear options is to allow players to NOT be stuck in a single designated "role".

I'm sorry, but trying to stick people into tiny little boxes to fit with your version of what ROM should play like is always going to backfire on you.

Quoted from "CROMI80;499615"

If making money is their 1st priority , we should be expecting many such "poor" balancing to appear in future. Can't blame them , they are running a business. But the way they do it is just like killing the golden goose to get 1 golden egg.

I pretty much agree here. Every business needs to make money to stay in business or there would be no RoM. But the way they do it a lot of times is with a blatant middle finger right in your eyeball. To make my point for this argument would be the Big Angel's Sigh as it pertains to Siege.

I spent 2.5 years on my toon, leveling, questing, buying diamonds to stat my gear as i move from level 55 gear to 67 gear, now to 70 gear. I've worked hard to get my toon to where it is. But then comes Siege. If i DO NOT buy a Big Angel's Sigh (BAS) all the hard work i have put into my toon over the years is now nerfed by 10% once i've been killed.

The way i take this is nothing more than a ploy (a bad one at that) to get you to buy diamonds. They TAKE AWAY 10% of years of hard work if u do not buy a BAS for siege. What warrants this punishment? If they want to make money off siege than make a pot that gives you a boost for siege only, and let those of us who don't want to buy the pot KEEP WHAT WE ALREADY WORKED HARD TO GET!!

That way the tables are still the same. Right now if u buy a BAS you keep what you got, and those who don't lose 10%. So if you make a pot that give you 5% or 10% boost, and let those who don't want to buy it keep what they got, it still works out about the same. It will most likely work out BETTER for diamond sales as well, without sticking the virtual middle finger in the eyeball of those who don't buy, allowing them to be in siege without feeling like they are punished for not contributing to the monetary success of RoM.

Quoted from "MegaMouseSEC;499601"

The only oes that complain about class imbalance are the scumbag PvP crowd.

Hey, i resemble that remark, no wait, i resent that remark. i still come across the occasional noob who has no idea what pk, and pvp means. i know i didnt this was my first online game, first mmo, i was bored and needed a distraction. i like the word indigo more than the others. i know shallow right?

so our tank has gone awol again as well, after being out all summer.

My original plan was to direct all excess guild resources from member to our tank to get him pumped up so we can run more endgame stuff. because, if tank wont survive, neither will rest of party right?

so i guess i better get to leveling that k/p.

i really wish more knights would have cried holy hell about the mighty shaft(shield) patch like the mages did about the gcd. i know yall are the take a beating kind of people, but, enough is enough eh?

and yea, the whole big angels sigh in siege thing is **. especially when most of us get the debuff when we dc in siege to i beleive? its almost like some joker is sittin there, pushing a button screaming "come on, buy some diamonds already!":

Big Angel's Sigh......?

What really gets up my nose is all the 2nd hand chest sales when all of my characters are still missing a chest each!!

I won't even mention the contents of said missing chests!!

Quoted from "GarryL;499671"

What really gets up my nose is all the 2nd hand chest sales when all of my characters are still missing a chest each!!

I won't even mention the contents of said missing chests!!

Thats why i will never buy a storage chest EVER. I am still missing many of mine and i may never get back what was in them, or even be reimbursed the value of what was in them. I will just keep creating more accounts and toons to use for storage as i need them and NEVER put anything of value in a chest again, or with a housemaid. The burdon of proof as to what i am missing should not be on my shoulders, but that seems to be why i am not getting my chest, or anything that was in it back, because i cant PROVE what was in it when it went missing. Maybe thats why its been over 3 weeks and i've still not heard from them since i last updated my ticket. They are waiting for me to buy more chests before i get my free one back. It's a conspiracy i tells ya!!

Quoted from "trav42073;499655"

Hey, i resemble that remark, no wait, i resent that remark. i still come across the occasional noob who has no idea what pk, and pvp means. i know i didnt this was my first online game, first mmo, i was bored and needed a distraction. i like the word indigo more than the others. i know shallow right?

so our tank has gone awol again as well, after being out all summer.

My original plan was to direct all excess guild resources from member to our tank to get him pumped up so we can run more endgame stuff. because, if tank wont survive, neither will rest of party right?

so i guess i better get to leveling that k/p.

i really wish more knights would have cried holy hell about the mighty shaft(shield) patch like the mages did about the gcd. i know yall are the take a beating kind of people, but, enough is enough eh?

Yeah some Knights did....guess what? We were told to be patient and wait for the final rebalance of the class and to quit QQing. So after being called cry babies and told other classes had bigger issues like Wardens and Warriors we shut up.

Good luck with that K/p I'd suggest you add Scout for 3rd class because the only Knight that can really hold aggro is the K/s and P/s is a killing machine in siege. Knights are rather sad in siege and I think it's a big factor for many leaving the class.

Quoted from "squirrlee;499679"

Yeah some Knights did....guess what? We were told to be patient and wait for the final rebalance of the class and to quit QQing. So after being called cry babies and told other classes had bigger issues like Wardens and Warriors we shut up.

Good luck with that K/p I'd suggest you add Scout for 3rd class because the only Knight that can really hold aggro is the K/s and P/s is a killing machine in siege. Knights are rather sad in siege and I think it's a big factor for many leaving the class.

I agree +1, fix knights, they're borked

Quoted from "mordsith69;499677"

Thats why i will never buy a storage chest EVER. I am still missing many of mine and i may never get back what was in them, or even be reimbursed the value of what was in them. I will just keep creating more accounts and toons to use for storage as i need them and NEVER put anything of value in a chest again, or with a housemaid. The burdon of proof as to what i am missing should not be on my shoulders, but that seems to be why i am not getting my chest, or anything that was in it back, because i cant PROVE what was in it when it went missing. Maybe thats why its been over 3 weeks and i've still not heard from them since i last updated my ticket. They are waiting for me to buy more chests before i get my free one back. It's a conspiracy i tells ya!!

Well, right at this moment i'm screwed there too!!

Trying to mail a few runes to an alt on the same account for storage & all I get is a red message in the middle of the screen saying "You still cannot do that" WTF???

I'm trying real hard to be calm & cool but there is so much telling me to stop wasting money on this game & go & join most of my guildies that have already left to play another game.

Quoted from "Silenteye7;499680"

I agree +1, fix knights, they're borked

I wish people would have listened back it the begining of Ch IV when Knights warned everyone that Boosting DPS classes and the higher damage weapons would make holding aggro more difficult. But all that got us was L2P, Learn to Stat and quit QQing.

Well now you need to "learn to control your aggro" or find a Warrior or Warden to tank for you. The issue is not many Warriors want to tank, they consider them selves DPS. The game gained W/k and Wdn/w as tanks but lost all but the K/s tanks. There are a few K/r running around but they are fading fast.

Quoted from "squirrlee;499679"

Yeah some Knights did....guess what? We were told to be patient and wait for the final rebalance of the class and to quit QQing. So after being called cry babies and told other classes had bigger issues like Wardens and Warriors we shut up.

Good luck with that K/p I'd suggest you add Scout for 3rd class because the only Knight that can really hold aggro is the K/s and P/s is a killing machine in siege. Knights are rather sad in siege and I think it's a big factor for many leaving the class.

SO where do i start..

OUr orignal K/p went k/s b/c or the extra stat stick. He recently went k/r since they fixed the crit on it and its better aggro than a k/s.. Or so he says. He also made a wd/w altand switched over gear b/c or the hype about the wd/w having better aggro than a knight. He confirmed it did have betetr aggro but did like the knight better. Especially in Gch or tosh where rnaged pulling is good with certain mobs. charging into a group of clowns that stun your tanka nd get passed isnt really a fun occurance =\. Even charging in on knight usiong the sheild that supposedly immunes stuns doesnt work rofl. Knight does NOT need dps of any sort. The crappy tank need dps. The good tanks need more aggro per holy strike seems how for some reason they reduced it. Ou tank holds aggro fine off of w/wd's m/w's and w/r's and also s/wd's. Btw which is sitll using the rt dia sword t7 and stated rofl.

Quoted from "UncleMart;499492"

Im starting to feel that Runewaker are either completely hopeless and have no idea how to balance the game, or they're very smart and know how to make Frogster lots of cash. Here's my reasoning (and feel free to throw out the tin foil hat jokes).

Every so often one class emerges as the clear leader in DPS (or healer or tank). People complain non stop about how that class is overpowered and 90% of the server re-rolls to that class to make the game easy as possible. Nothing gets done about it despite it being clear that there are balancing issues. However, once everyone is geared up on that class, the money being spent on the game starts to dry up.

Time for a new chapter, the overpowered class gets nerfed, and another class will be boosted into being the new best thing. 90% of the server is now unhappy with their class and spend money on a fruit of forgetting and tons of puri stones and plus gems.

This has happened every chapter and it ALWAYS happens. So as you can see, im starting to think that Runewaker are either awful at their jobs, or are just awesome at making money off people.

Honestly though? I can't decide which of the two it is....

The only falacy in your logic I see is that when a new chapter comes out, everybody who is going to roll to the new flavor of the month is going to re-gear either way. If they wanted to really milk things, they would have made all the skill adjustments 3 - 6 months after the new gear/zones were released, not at roughly the same time.

Now there ARE some skill balancings that happened 3 - 6 months after new content was released.... in those cases you might have a point...

Quoted from "gigilomann;499745"

SO where do i start..

Ou tank holds aggro fine off of w/wd's m/w's and w/r's and also s/wd's. Btw which is sitll using the rt dia sword t7 and stated rofl.

Ok I agree with your statement with the exception of what i quoted. The only possible way that your tank holds aggro from w/wd's m/w's and w/r's and s/wd's with a rt sword thats only a t7 is if your other dps in ur party is only half stated or are undergeared or underlevel. There is no way in hell a k/s with a t7 and 2 hatred x's would hold aggro from me. You might want to get ur dps classes checked if a w/wd (endgame) is not pulling aggro from your tank that is using a t7.

Quoted from "blitzclub06;499765"

Ok I agree with your statement with the exception of what i quoted. The only possible way that your tank holds aggro from w/wd's m/w's and w/r's and s/wd's with a rt sword thats only a t7 is if your other dps in ur party is only half stated or are undergeared or underlevel. There is no way in hell a k/s with a t7 and 2 hatred x's would hold aggro from me. You might want to get ur dps classes checked if a w/wd (endgame) is not pulling aggro from your tank that is using a t7.

He had trouble holding aggro off them as a k/s he could but would lose it sometimes. Went k/r partly for that reason. ( too lazy to upgrade sword) Said his aggro was betetr and held aggro from a w/wd as a k/r. (given this was in rt). we do gch and hae 2 m/w's ing roup and he holds aggro off them fine. Given one has a recon X and the other a recon IX. We'll find how the aggro is when they both get their queens. Obviously hell have to upgrade from his t7 stated sword. but he switched his gear to a wd/w and aggro is better than ever. Believe hes using a 2h axe now? idr off hand. But he does say he definatley like the knight class better.

IMO RW gets a B grade for the current class balancing. 1. DPS is decently balanced, yes R/S seems to be the best combo (debatable ) but nothing like S/X was last chapter. 2.WD and D actually can get into instances? About time. 3. K just needs help. Giving W/K 55 elite so that W can wear plate kind of ruined it for K IMO.

Quoted from "dexhunterz;499773"

IMO RW gets a B grade for the current class balancing. 1. DPS is decently balanced, yes R/S seems to be the best combo (debatable ) but nothing like S/X was last chapter. 2.WD and D actually can get into instances? About time. 3. K just needs help. Giving W/K 55 elite so that W can wear plate kind of ruined it for K IMO.

I'd agree that it is more balanced than it was last chapter, but lumping every dual class combo into just the primary classes and saying they're all balanced...that's going too far. There are many combos that are not viable in the least, have broken elites, or just aren't of any use due to their supportive nature, when all instances require are DPS and that's it.

Sure, R/S is a top DPS. R/S is relatively balanced. What about R/D? R/P? W/R and W/Wd are balanced, but W/S, W/D, W/P are all left hanging. The developers focus on classes as a whole, not individual combos, and that is their biggest mistake. A dual class system means nothing when only a select few combos don't suck, and when they pile certain nerfs on top of these classes, it affects the non-viable combos the most. Which makes them want to re-roll. Which can be costly.

And then let's get to the constant nerfing of certain classes, such as knights and priests, neither of which needed serious nerfs. This game is not well balanced, even if it is slightly better than it was last chapter.

@OP, I've said before (concerning GCD at the time, but applicable to much more) that they either don't know what they're doing, or they don't care how it affects their players.

I actually look forward to trying out new games from both Frogster and Runewaker independent of each another so I can know where to place the blame for the messes they make in RoM.

But from my experience (significantly inferior to your own, UM) concerns on the forums, legitimate or not, get about as far as... well, they just don't get very far, and that's a major problem too.

As long as profits are still being made, proper fixes/customer care/satisfaction gets put on vacation. I mean whats the point in doing extra work if your still seeing money roll in. Be funny if people actually started mass boycotting the buying of diamonds, major profit loss might get the hamsters listening at RW/EU

Quoted from "NaiSa;499838"

As long as profits are still being made, proper fixes/customer care/satisfaction gets put on vacation. I mean whats the point in doing extra work if your still seeing money roll in. Be funny if people actually started mass boycotting the buying of diamonds, major profit loss might get the hamsters listening at RW/FEU

So many of us thought. Instead they simply decided to shut down FA. This seems to communicate that they will not step up their game, they will merely ride it into the ground. Even so, it is still difficult to tell whether the problem lies with publisher or developer. I tend to give Frogster the benefit of the doubt, since they seem decent people for the most part. Plus no one from RW can delete my posts. :p

Quoted from "BJHawk;499841"

So many of us thought. Instead they simply decided to shut down FA...

This is because there's a new game on the horizon...and the point of being "in the black" has already been reached long ago. Had this game been released just recently that tactic might have worked