Runes of Magic US / AU

I agree, why do they say points? Why say points if they mean tokens? why do they say 5000?
5000 in a 6000 run would automatically make you winner, if you make 5000 tokens in a reasonable time, you should have placed a few times, and been 1st at least once.
Think we have to wait for patch and see what they mean.

If you cant get first, have a few guildies go with you at 4-5am Eastern-ish. Its not too hard to get first you just have to find a time. I see 2 reasons why this doesnt even apply to 99.9% of anyone.
1. Who is going to save up 5k in a "reasonable" amount of time?
2. Even if you DID save up 5k, unless they actually offer you Hero stats for LESS than 210 a piece, just find a time to get first with some guildies.
Secondly, this new Item shop item is only useful if the stat you remove gets put on a mana stone for you. Im assuming this is the case, otherwise, its a useless item.
1. If it doesnt, it has to be the same price as attribute purifying stone, or people will use as a cleaner for new drops.
2. Noone in their right mind is going to take a chance on what stat is going to be removed...and for what gain? You would have to buy 3 just to stat with say 3 glorious for an upgrade.
Both of these at first glance appear to be useless additions at first glance, but time will tell.

Be it free or not, 5000 is just not practical to collect. Let's say I place second every time and never first (placing first would defeat the point of the feature as I would be able to buy stats anyway). As far as I know, 2nd always gets 30. So, 90 points per hour, 55.5 hours of placing nothing but second every time. This is the fastest possible scenario and not a practical one. How many people can place that many second for that long and not ever first?

And then we have "reasonable exchange rate" part. Is that reasonable as in "well, not too much higher than 210"? Because if it is not 210, chances of anyone wanting to do that are gonna be rather slim.

2k-3k should be a more reasonable amount IMO, it's really insane to collect that 5k amount . Well business wise, the faster players get the stats they want , more fusion stones will be use = more diamonds need = more revenue for froggie.

just have to wait and see, i bet the translation is not even close. runewaker speak vewy poor engrish. the way this is written makes no sense, lol, nor does random stat removal stones. srsly? lets take a chance on removing the one great stat on a piece of gear lol.

It all comes down to what the price in diamonds this "new" stone is going to be. That will determine if and how often it will be used.

Anyone who buys one of these random stat removal stones HOPING they work any better than a Gasha deserves to lose their money. Wait for the SPECIFIC STAT REMOVAL STONES... no doubt out later this year. They will most likely come, because as anyone can see, they still want to sell you more puris...

(and honestly, if they cost the same as a cleaner (or more I am going to guess), why not just clean the junk stat first folks?)

ps. one more thing regarding these stones: Either they will be super cheap (and used to clean a single junk stat off an item instead of a cleaner prior to statting) or super expensive (making their use a real gamble on those 50m gold stats...). I do like the idea, as it means (if cheap) they can clean up some junk easy mode gear cheaper and these things might actually be used... Though I doubt it.

ps. regarding the 5k limit:

If you do the 139 hours, you get 23 hero stats... so one every 6 hours.

If you get 10 + 5, ... so 5k every 111 hours that is one every 4.8 hours.

If you capitalize your time and get an average of 3rd place that is 10 + 15 = 25 * 3 = 75 an hour or 5k every 66.7 hours. Or one hero every 2.8 hours.

Are you there yet? Personally I like this option, as it means one can simply save up and then get 23 stats (almost guaranteed to be able to stat one piece of gear with 23 stats, even if junk, because there are really only 8-10 stats to chose from (using 2 different gear). If you are lucky and get all good stats you would be able to stat out 4 pieces of gear every 67 hours (or less if you get first all the time (that's gonna be even harder now)).

So in a little over 268 hours you could completely end-game gear your toon out... in theory. In practice its not going to be the case, of course. But certainly puts the idea within everyone's reach. IMHO.

ps. at 105 (1st place every time) an hour 5k is only going to take 48 hours... in theory (best case) statting out 2 pcs of gear a day/every 24 hours of gameplay. Being an uber gamer like this means 1 pc of gear each day perhaps... for a little over two weeks... and ToSH here we come! (with the most probably outcome getting there after the first week and grinding out ToSH stats instead... lol... at a rate of 1/12 chance per run)

I don't see the random stat pullers....Anyone know what section they are in?

You can view them in ItemPreview:

Equipment Attribute-Purifying Stone - Click it to open the purification interface and clear one attribute from the designated equipment (all levels and equipment).

Random Attribute Extraction Stone - Place the stone and the piece of equipment with attributes into the random attribute extraction interface to extract one random attribute from the equipment.

I don't see them in the Item Shop either, but I imagine they will be added as a Special / Offer soon.

It would make more sense if it is public event points. If you get 5000 on your own but no one else is doing the events or the total doesn't reach 6000 there is no winner declared and you get ripped off on the Energy of Justice. Last night I had over 5000 points on my own but the total never reached 6000 at one point during SW last night. I got 10 energy of justice and no winner was declared so I got riped off. If I could then go buy a stat anyway that would make me happy.

Not enough facerolling if you ask me, Helps work those cheek muscles.

In the descriptions the 'Equipment Attribute-Purifying Stone' will 'clear' a stat from the gear, thus destroying it (my understanding)

But with the 'Random Attribute Extraction Stone' they will 'extract' a stat from the gear. Does this mean with this one you will extract the random stat onto a mana stone AND keep the gear?

Quoted from "Dopple32;502791"

But with the 'Random Attribute Extraction Stone' they will 'extract' a stat from the gear. Does this mean with this one you will extract the random stat onto a mana stone AND keep the gear?

This is correct. They extract a random stat onto a mana stone.
The gear will not be destroyed.

this is exactly how I thought attribute purifying stones should have always been used, for 200 diamonds, you should get a mana stone with the old stats on it...

Now if the price isn't too high, I can see this being a potentially very well seller.

Okay, I can see the use now - depending on the cost of course! Lets say you get a mem item that has like Stam/mp but high dura.

Since it only has one stat, you could use that new stone to remove it - versus the cost of a cleaner.

Anyone else think that having 5000 Energy of Justice should should allow you to roll stats for less? I mean that's what the vendors make it sound like. Not having to get first place isn't enough of a incentive or benefit and not to mention the way ROM puts it is kinda misleading. Anyone else agree?