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Friday, January 20th 2012, 6:10pm

Jan 21-22 weekend sale

The sale is centered on runes. Some decent deals, some... not so decent

Loot III, Experience III - 99 (first time I saw those for sale. Beware, they are weapon runes)
Burst V, fatal V - 99
Wrath VI, Miracle VI - 199
Raid VI, Curse VI, Accuracy VI - 209 (now, that is good)
Enlightenment VI - 199
ferocity V, Devil V, Grasp V, Capability V, Keenness V, Comprehension V - 59
500 charges+Wrath V, 500 charges+Miracle V - 499

Rune page:
http://www.theromwiki.com/Rune_Transmutation

My reaction...

Loot and Experience would be great runes if they were not weapon runes. Those who have single weapon should probably avoid. Those who have 2 or 3 can probably benefit much better.

Burst and fatal V... meh. Really, we had VII so often that V doesn't cut it. Especially since VII were 59-79 and V are 99.

Wrath VI and Miracle VI - same. 199 diamonds when we had VII for 59-79? That is nuts.

Raid VI, Curse VI - those are good. Accuracy VI I am not a fan of. Still, 209 for VI is a deal.

Enlightenment VI - We used to be seeing Potential VII which are +24 to all attributes for 79. This is same +24, but it is not 79.

V runes for 59. We used to have gashas (remember how everyone hated them?) that gave 2-4 V runes for less. Sure, they were random and this is not. Still, meh.

Charges... Well, this is regular charges sale + V rune. Not too bad if you need charges. On the other hand, 500 charges packaging is less convenient than single 100-charge sale. You do get a V rune to compensate, though.
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Friday, January 20th 2012, 6:36pm

Enlightenment and Potential work together. You can put both into an item. And "Chapter IV" Runes have -atleast in EU, you guys here got them way earlier than us- always been more expensive than the old ones. Still, this sale probably fits the EU side a bit better with VI runes for 199-209 instead of 3xV for 199 or even 299 (Enlightenment). Btw, afaik we never had Charges for a price below Dias-1=Charges (99d/100c, 499d/500c, 999d/1000c), with or without an additional rune ;)

I still miss Enchantment VI totally :/ other runes of absolutely no use are in, this one not :(

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 6:53pm

So we are supposed to pay more for lower tier rune, and that is 'sale'.

It goes well with my topic about marketing.

I might get only Curse VI now, as from current marketing/sales we can expect just higher prices, apparently. :)

Is it me, or they are following AH with inflation?! :D

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 7:09pm

Real nice i spend a ton of money making a VI curse and now everyone can buy one. Its like a big finger to the face.

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 7:22pm

Quoted from "Mekun;503508"

Real nice i spend a ton of money making a VI curse and now everyone can buy one. Its like a big finger to the face.


Money?

Everyone else farmed theirs and then just smashed ~100 charges together to get it.

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 7:39pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo;503491"

500 charges packaging is less convenient
500 is good, 1000 would have been better. T9/T10/T11 takes a lot of charges. Free rune to boot? I'll take it. Actually I'll take 7.
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Friday, January 20th 2012, 7:46pm

Quoted from "mrmisterwaa;503515"

Money?

Everyone else farmed theirs and then just smashed ~100 charges together to get it.


build up from III runes is actually more like 3000 runes and 800[->765] charges :D 165 charges / 600 runes from IVs ;)

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 7:49pm

there is one particular guildy of mine that insists on defending EU sales, but i still cant figure out why. the best thing in this sale are the curse/raid runes....thats it! 500 charges for 499 diamonds? ill buy some, but whoopty freakin doo. not any better than FA imo. in fact, i remember an interesting variety on a consistent basis with FA. EU keeps giving us seemingly random selections of daily and weekly "sales". and the weekend sales? arent those supposed to be the best ones of the week? ok, so this weekend is the best sale so far this week, but that isnt saying much at all!

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 7:52pm

Quoted from "mrmisterwaa;503515"

Money?

Everyone else farmed theirs and then just smashed ~100 charges together to get it.


And another useless post congrats. Troll much?

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 8:02pm

Quoted from "mrmisterwaa;503515"

Money?

Everyone else farmed theirs and then just smashed ~100 charges together to get it.

buy 4 more and make a VII then.

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 8:12pm

Would like to see better offers :)

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 8:37pm

Remember some old prices date back to old Frogster America market teams, which in term of runes, always different in tier and price (EU got old X rune while US got old V runes and US got VII weapon runes while EU got V weapon runes).

Personally, I'm just try to get use to EU pricing.
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Friday, January 20th 2012, 9:07pm

It is very difficult to explain why they went to EU pricing for the US when the EU has NPCs that sell diamonds and the US doesn't.

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 9:18pm

Quoted from "aardvark3;503569"

It is very difficult to explain why they went to EU pricing for the US when the EU has NPCs that sell diamonds and the US doesn't.


That has been covered already several times. The diamond NPC is not panacea and not used much on EU side.

We had constant "but EU side has this and we dont, why are we the red-headed stepchild". How many times I've heard that X runes availability on EU servers was the reason why they clear things way before we do on US side? Well, now we had that. Anyone noticed that we can clear things faster? We had "EU has great sales all the time, US got junk sales". Now, we have greater involvement of EU sales team. Are people happy with sales?

The diamond exchange NPC is yet another "grass is greener on the other side" urban legend. Let it be.
-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.


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Friday, January 20th 2012, 9:22pm

Quoted from "aardvark3;503569"

It is very difficult to explain why they went to EU pricing for the US when the EU has NPCs that sell diamonds and the US doesn't.


off topic...I never play in a EU server, so if possible, how does that system work in EU right now?
=.=

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 9:27pm

Quoted from "Sadz202;503555"

Remember some old prices date back to old Frogster America market teams, which in term of runes, always different in tier and price (EU got old X rune while US got old V runes and US got VII weapon runes while EU got V weapon runes).

Personally, I'm just try to get use to EU pricing.

The Item Shop prices on most of this weekend's sale of runes is 5x to 12.5x times higher than they were when Frogster America was in charge. At least the transmutor charge packages are the same price.

correction: some of the runes are OVER 30x times higher now

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 9:47pm

And in comparison to EU sales?

Yes, I recognize price difference but before venting, it is better to acknowledge our current situation - FA is gone, FEU set the price now.

And people need to remember we just come out of a big holiday sale - big holiday sale (range from 70%~50% with great items) > regular holiday sale (50% discount on good item) > regular weekend sale (40~30% discount with ok item) > weekly sale (20%~ discount) > regular price.

If every weekend is a big holiday sale...then what is big holiday sale? Why not just demand whole CS to reduce by 50% lol

Anyway, from experience, big sale comes by every 3 months, I think next one in march or april when Frogster Bday week. Regular holiday sale on once a month and other sale so on and so forth. If you want to maximize your diamond, be patient. And same apply to our new EU marketing team - give them some time, everything will work out.
=.=

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Friday, January 20th 2012, 9:51pm

Wrath V!? Woot party like its 2010! Even more expensive then the VII's come on guys we gave you all a nice list, heck we know sale prices. I'm just floored even the most hardcore RoMers are like "Really?"

Check my account, I'm no stranger to giving you all money, but I've had nothing to spend the diamonds I have on, let alone buy more diamonds.

As for charges, I have found them stacking up about 7 a day from minis, you would think one day you would do 500 for 250 diamonds. Meh what do I know, see no more post counts I'm a noob, its like my third time posting in here

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Saturday, January 21st 2012, 12:53am

Quoted from "Sadz202;503604"

And in comparison to EU sales?

Yes, I recognize price difference but before venting, it is better to acknowledge our current situation - FA is gone, FEU set the price now.

And people need to remember we just come out of a big holiday sale - big holiday sale (range from 70%~50% with great items) > regular holiday sale (50% discount on good item) > regular weekend sale (40~30% discount with ok item) > weekly sale (20%~ discount) > regular price.

If every weekend is a big holiday sale...then what is big holiday sale? Why not just demand whole CS to reduce by 50% lol

Anyway, from experience, big sale comes by every 3 months, I think next one in march or april when Frogster Bday week. Regular holiday sale on once a month and other sale so on and so forth. If you want to maximize your diamond, be patient. And same apply to our new EU marketing team - give them some time, everything will work out.

Here's the big issue Sadz- people were complaining vociferously about how expensive endgame was long before FI took over from FA. I don't think demanding that they decrease the CS by 50% is a bad idea, or even that unreasonable. Making things cheaper might actually drive sales and increase total revenue.

Someone needs to do that breakdown of how expensive it is to gear one toon to endgame again, and I can tell you, it is not going to be pretty.

You can go to a game like *you know the one, the 900lb gorilla* and pay $150 bucks or so and maybe that much again for a whole years worth of gameplay. Here, you can drop that $300 easily on less than one set of crappy gear, and typically we all gear up at least once per level-cap increase, and we usually get 2 per year. $300 is a drop in the ocean here. I can spend $300 on just puris and charges and still not get what I need.

It's idiotic.

It's also not sustainable. At some point, you look at your sales receipts and you have a "come to Jesus" moment when you realize you spent the equivalent of a car payment on dias per month. The only reason I personally haven't had that "come to Jesus" moment myself is that my poor husband has no clue what I have spent on this game.

Now, like I said, people were experiencing this prior to the cash shop getting more expensive under Frogster International.

I have to ask the obvious question: are they high?

Well, possibly. The more likely answer is that they are just out of touch with the US side of things.

I have a tendency of hanging out in the Euro forums, and it's a night and day world, although I have no clue why that is. The world economy is actually pretty much the same- bad all over. They can't have that much more disposable income than we do. How they manage to keep dia prices at a stable 15-20k per, what with the cash shop being more expensive- I have no idea. Maybe it's relative population density? I don't know how they sustain such high gear levels and such a stable economy.

However they do it- it ain't like that here. It just isn't, and Frogster America apparently was doing a slightly better job of keeping it real than we thought.

The harsh reality is that until the in-game economy stabilizes on the US servers, they can't treat us like we're the Euro servers, because we are not. Period.

Lemme say that again, just in case FI missed it: We play the same game, but the US servers have a completely different economy, and you can't raise cash shop prices to Euro standards without major pushback- and possible player loss. Things were bad enough under FA, and there was a lot of well-justified complaining about this game being significantly more expensive than better-coded and better-supported subscription games. If you want to stay competitive in the US gaming market, you are going to have to take a really long hard look at the bottom line for players, and make some changes, because the cash shop was too expensive under FA policies, and changing them to make them more in line with Euro prices (aka by increasing costs) is not the right way to go.

Listen to your playerbase and look at your sales figures. This needs to be addressed.
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Saturday, January 21st 2012, 1:19am

Quoted from "Whippingboy;503588"

correction: some of the runes are OVER 30x times higher now


can you explain this math?
I miss the ant party