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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:06am

Who's to blame?

My question is,If runeswaker is the producer of the game and Frogster/Gameforge is the company that supports it or whatnot whos to blame?

Obviously we've been told we cant blame Froster/Gameforge b/c they don't produce the game they only gosh i jsut cant think of that word publish?

Also there is nothing we can do about Runewaker b/c they're chinese/Vietnamese one of those lol

SO seige not being fixed who do we blame for that?

Becuase of allt he time spent on this game I DON'T want to see it get shut down and go down the drain. I believe the saying is time spent is moneylost no?

Also there istalk of a chapter 5 being released but we have yet to see knights and priests get reblanaced. Unless they're fine the way they are now? But sumtimes the knights"sheild" skills bug and dont work.

Who do we blame foroldcontent bugging and not being fixed, becuase it seems the relay between Frogster/Gameforge and Runewaker is so slow but yet they can send notes and patches about new chapters or new events.

All I ask is that you guysforward sumthing ( thoguht it wont happen) about all of chapter5 being about seige and PvP arenas. Seigeneeds a revamp, the towers, gates, buildings, gaurds and vehicles.

Also i would liek to see an honor system. Being able to buy * UP TO DATE* gear with honor points. That way more people do arenas and maybe 50 honor pints per kill in seige andarenas anda couple thousand for gears that way people hae to farm arenas for gear so its something to do.

Just an idea. This aspect has been used in other mmorpg's as well.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:21am

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Also there is nothing we can do about Runewaker b/c they're chinese/Vietnamese one of those lol



I'm sure that you didn't mean it, but please choose your wordings more wisely. The quoted part might sound offensive to some.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:22am

Well.. Normally I would put an "Oh its THIS Thread again" Pic up for this but ehh.. I've already done that in the last couple days. So...

1. Why do you HAVE to blame someone? They're working on it, no matter what you say to them or who you blame, that's not gonna change, they wont just all of a sudden go "OMG they blame US for this? Holy Shizz we better start workin' on this!!1!one!" It's not going to make them work any faster, these things take time.. sometimes months in their case I guess.

2. Taiwanese, almost got it.

3. I don't think anyone wants to see this game shut down, we all love it and if it shuts down, that means we have to start playing something else. I guess I could go back to playing my ps3 but eh...

4. I completely agree that Honor system needs a revamp, Although 50 pts per kill is too much, even if its 2000 pts for gear. People shouldn't be able to do arena for one day and get a few new pieces. It needs to be something around 50-100 rounds (depending on win/loss) for every piece of gear. < In my opinion
Mongol 72/68/58 R/S/P -- Mongosmash 70/67/42 W/Wd/S -- Myrmidon 64/53/50 M/P/K -- Reni

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:25am

Just blame Obama... everyone else does...

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:28am

All we can do is let Frogster know about the bugs we find. All Frogster can do is forward wghat we find to Runewaker. Runewaker is responsible for the fixes that should be done to the game. As far as balancing I see a big problem with even saying that. Each class is supposed to ahve weeknesses and strengths. In the begining each class was right until some PvP baby decided he couldn't faceroll his way through a battle against anyone he wanted to. Where has the skill in learning how each class behaves and works??? Nowaday's most PvP players want easy mode. Give them the best Armor and one class so they can drop their heads onto their keyboard and just roll around for a few minutes. I am one of the biggest opponents against so called class balancing out there.
No what I do think needs done is the actual bugs that some of the skills have be fixed. Old content needs fixing too but it seems that the Developers just want to push out content at a blazing rate regardless of bugs, glitches, and broken content.
Common Frogster tell Runewaker to give us what we actualy want: Fixed older content, hard mode on the existing instances (at this time in the US at least we cannot make the lvl 65 epic weapons), and the good drops that EU seems to get but we do not (Giants Staff anyone?). We need the problems fixed first, then new content. Not new content and forgotten bugs.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:34am

Taiwanese sorry, Also this was meant to be a discussion thread not a troll thread so please keep trolling and flaming to a minmum :) I agree about the Nerfing balancing classes due to pvp that should never ever ever happen. But i feel knights and priests and scouts ( not s/wd) needa little revamping in pve.
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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:37am

OP,

How do it help you to know who to place the blame on? I doubt it would make anyone sleep better at night.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:41am

Sorry for my wall of text Gigilomann, but like I said class balancing is a joke. I will agree with you though that some classes may need tweeking to be better utilized in our PVE world, but attempting to make every class exactly the same is not something that should ever be concidered. My main is a Mage/Scout (no I haven't taken a third class due to the fact that I feel it is kinda useless) and I haven't found much to complain about, well maybe one thing: I hope they NEVER reset the TP points ever again. I never did recoup all the points that I lost with one of them. So now everytime the say the dirty words "TP Reset" I take screenies of every page of my skill book so I can complain and give proof of what I lost.
Each patch comes new dangers for us and we just hope they haven't thrown a nerf forest in our way.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:44am

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OP,

How do it help you to know who to place the blame on? I doubt it would make anyone sleep better at night.


Becuase if we don't blame someone, Or point out the flaws to someone it may never get fixed. Like for example If we the community of US roM couldcomplain to the Runewakerdirectly i feel it would be more effective than telling themiddleman whenthey dontrespond half the time anyways.
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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:50am

Blame - Not to Blame. I prefer not to think in blame or not to blame ^^. Responsible - Not Responsible.

Both Runewaker and Frogster are responsible for putting a good, fun product on the market. Runewaker develops every aspect of the game, and Frogster publishes the game, does the QA work, makes the sales, etc. Who is responsible? Both of us are, but we, Frogster, communicate with you. It's our job to communicate any complaints to the appropiate company or department. So if you have any feedback or complaints you just have to post it on the forums and our Community Management will make sure it ends up with the right people :)

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Also there is nothing we can do about Runewaker b/c they're chinese/Vietnamese one of those lol


They're Taiwanese and English is an universal language ;) I for example am not a native English speaker, yet I speak English. Perhaps not without spelling mistakes, but as long people can understand :cool:

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SO seige not being fixed who do we blame for that?


Both, the problem is being worked on by IT (Frogster), QA (Frogster) and the Developers (Runewaker).

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Also there istalk of a chapter 5 being released but we have yet to see knights and priests get reblanaced. Unless they're fine the way they are now? But sumtimes the knights"sheild" skills bug and dont work.


I say nothing and everything. Knights was an initial balancing patch, balancing is never done (for any class).

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Who do we blame foroldcontent bugging and not being fixed, becuase it seems the relay between Frogster/Gameforge and Runewaker is so slow but yet they can send notes and patches about new chapters or new events.

All I ask is that you guysforward sumthing ( thoguht it wont happen) about all of chapter5 being about seige and PvP arenas. Seigeneeds a revamp, the towers, gates, buildings, gaurds and vehicles.


The usual 'focus on this' 'focus on that' chat is actually more complicated as it seems. The Development team for Runes of Magic is large, very large. But just like with every company, it has several departments. A Programming Department, Game Design Department, Art Department and Sound Department. Each of those departments have quite a few of employees which work on their 'own' things. So at the same time that our Developers design new events, bugs can be fixed as well.

Even though it may not seem like it, since some of the most largest issues still exists, in the last year we had a significant decrease in known reported bugs (Talking about a decrease of approx. 45%). Some of the issues, such as crashes and Siege Wars are harder to fix and may require some massive re-designing and re-working before it can be fixed. As any other company, there is a development plan. When 4.0.8 is released, the next patch is already being worked on, patches may difference in size depending on many factors. But if you pay attention to the patchprogress... nevermind ;)

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Also i would liek to see an honor system. Being able to buy * UP TO DATE* gear with honor points. That way more people do arenas and maybe 50 honor pints per kill in seige andarenas anda couple thousand for gears that way people hae to farm arenas for gear so its something to do.


I have forwarded this to our Game Improvement Department, and they will look into it :)

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Becuase if we don't blame someone, Or point out the flaws to someone it may never get fixed. Like for example If we the community of US roM couldcomplain to the Runewakerdirectly i feel it would be more effective than telling themiddleman whenthey dontrespond half the time anyways.


Don't think this is a very good idea, we (Frogster) filter out the 'less useful' reports very fast. We (Frogster) know the details and the formats Runewaker would like to have, etc. The current system works, but I can understand things go a bit too slow for some bugs ;) We always hope to improve this, but in my opinion in the last year we have already significantly improved this (I take for example - Tergothen Bay hardly knew any Quest Bugs - in comparison to earlier released zones). At the same time, every somewhat larger patch also brings quite a few bugfixes.

As for us not responding half the time anyways. That's why I am here :> To respond, I am the 'bug guy'.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 11:54am

Dang and I thought I could write a wall of text. Nice to see someone other than players taking time to comment on things like this. Thanks Roeksha for clearing up some of what is beign said here.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:02pm

forawarded and looked into.. They are working on it. I wish you could give more descriptive answers =$

As for the knight blaancingall it waswasadamage/dps inrease not muh of a balance imo and honestlythis is the msot balanced ive seen it so far, howver i think since scouts dont get a main stat they should get 1.2-1.3 pa per dex 1.1-1.2 pa per str and 1.2 pa per pa stat. the 1 == 1 pa is all fine and dandy however i jsut dont seesome scouts being effective in pve as you say s/wd.

So Mr. Bug guy closing mythread of why i should be a gm/fm/cm xD and changing my perty text =( was is YOUR opinion of what should be focused on rather than working on the next chapter??

also, Eligium looks fantastic :3sadly Frogster is publishing this too for another company hopefulyl the communication is better. lol how awesome is raising your mounts like a pet and pandas facking pandas are epic
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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:31pm

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forawarded and looked into.. They are working on it. I wish you could give more descriptive answers =$

As for the knight blaancingall it waswasadamage/dps inrease not muh of a balance imo and honestlythis is the msot balanced ive seen it so far, howver i think since scouts dont get a main stat they should get 1.2-1.3 pa per dex 1.1-1.2 pa per str and 1.2 pa per pa stat. the 1 == 1 pa is all fine and dandy however i jsut dont seesome scouts being effective in pve as you say s/wd.

So Mr. Bug guy closing mythread of why i should be a gm/fm/cm xD and changing my perty text =( was is YOUR opinion of what should be focused on rather than working on the next chapter??

also, Eligium looks fantastic :3sadly Frogster is publishing this too for another company hopefulyl the communication is better. lol how awesome is raising your mounts like a pet and pandas facking pandas are epic


May i just take a minute to say the keyborat is looking sexy here... Took me about 5 minutes to comprehend all that. XD

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:33pm

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May i just take a minute to say the keyborat is looking sexy here... Took me about 5 minutes to comprehend all that. XD


Don'tmake me get in vent I'm trying to cook breakfast, aka left over pizza ^^
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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:34pm

muwahaha im not there. you can't find me. >.>

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:34pm

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muwahaha im not there. you can't find me. >.>


I know i jsut checked-.-
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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:35pm

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I know i jsut checked-.-



Lol go eat your pizza!!

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:37pm

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Lol go eat your pizza!!


you're going to get my thread closed stop trolling me -.-
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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:46pm

All this time I was blaming GIGI, now you tell me its the Chinese people =P

All kidding aside, we flame the heck out of frogster, but has anyone actually tried writing an email to Runewaker, something along the lines of "Hey pull your heads out of your....you have an MMO with greater potential then any on the F2P market. Make it better make more money"

Tony Tang is a bit of a dreamer, I've watched his clip and he is an ideas guy, but I'm betting he is the type that needs to be reminded RoM was his baby and what made it all possible for him. Idea guys are brilliant, yet flaky and tend to be like squirrels. He needs to stop playing with his new nut and come back to the old one.

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Tuesday, February 14th 2012, 12:50pm

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forawarded and looked into.. They are working on it. I wish you could give more descriptive answers =$


I feel where you come from when you say this, but unfortunately even if the information was provided, we could make the point that in the past, we have said more than this, and when things don't go as smoothly as often perceived, the community often feels like abandoned because those expectations weren't met.

For example, if I said the pizza will be done in 10 minutes, and the community doesn't have pizza in their mouth in 10 minutes, well..."SHUT UP, ITS COOLING DOWN AND I'M CUTTING IT."

I'm hungry.