Runes of Magic US / AU

I have thousands of diamonds, and I only bought 2 runes from this sale, a couple of curses. The rest is just too stupid to participate in or reward. This sale is stupid expensive. If they were 59 like the last time there was a great sale, I would have spend thousands of diamonds, more than likely purchased more diamonds as well. Too bad they can't get their business side in gear.

I've been looking forward to a rune sale for awhile. I need wrath runes badly. To make a wrathVII it would have cost me over $22.00 for one. Found a couple wrathV on the ah for 500k. I guess I'll stick with those until I see the cost of them come back down.

Complains like this will not accomplish anything.

I do agree that this is rip-off price, but we have to understand that this was 'normal' sale price in EU and they don't care that we had higher level rune for less dias.

As this is happening while 3 year celebration, it just tells that we better not to hope for any deals - thus we will not get disappointed yet again.

From talk with friends in game, no one of us is spending any DIAS on sales like this.

Quoted from "Stagg3r;514642"

Gas is a comidity and is subject to production and market values. Furthermore, it is a resource and price is ultimately based on being finite. Also, how long ago was gas 25 cents? Right, 20 years...

LOL! Fanboi pwnage.

BTW, same complaints as last month, when the cost of those runes went up by 1586%. Just the current version of their cash grab. Porsche payments are not cheap for those Germans either, you know...

Cost of VII runes sold by FA = 59 diamonds.

Number of VII runes needed to make X rune = 125.

Number of diamonds to make X rune from VII runes = 59*125 = 7375 (not counting the charges)

Actual cost of X rune = 299.

299 << 7375.

So, I have no major reason to complain about X runes. They are toys for rich endgamers.

Now, Wrath runes... yeah, I can see that as being too expensive. But, guess what... it is expensive compared to what we used to get from FA. When they first came out, everyone jumped on them, because they were ridiculously cheap at the prices FA was selling them. Whereas before the rune sale, V were rare and valuable, after rune sale everyone was running with VIIs. A good case can be made that VII at 59 dias were really underpriced.

Advantage you gain with X rune versus VII rune is about double of stats - so for example 24 *something* will give you 48 *if the same* etc.

But as vfwiffo has noticed, cost wasn't double (118 DIAS), but 299 - two and half times more.

As for rest of calculation - we all know that x5 multilayer in runes transmutation does not make much sense, thus runes are not used/crafted as much as they should have been. And then in the end, frogster can disable any runes they like to sell.

IMHO, if they leave VII runes at 59 DIAS and X runes at current price, VII will always outsell and make more profit to Frogster.

Vfwiffo, to be fair in comparison, can you make an example for Wrath rune as well? (price now, and before and compare the price )

There is a good case to be made that 5x multiplier on runes is excessive. 3x would make quite a bit more sense.

But, the progression of power is not linear and is never meant to be linear. A piece of gear that gets 20% more damage will easily run 7-10 times as much. A stat that gives you 20% more power is going to cost 7-10 times as much. Works same way in game as it does elsewhere. You want the best of the best, you are going to pay a lot more than the difference in power between that and the middle ground item.

I did notice long time ago that multiplier is excessive, probably lost somewhere on old forum. Crafting runes should be fun, not nightmare imho, and at its current state is nothing else.

I agree, price is not linear, but neither are sales. I'm sure that some end gamers already have all X runes... IMHO, not worth RL money, thus no purchase from me.

So, no comparison for Wrath?

Quoted from "regentego;514929"

My three cents again, the X runes, I don't have a problem with, those are really for the Uber elite, which I'm not so I will do without, but the fact to make a wrath VII would cost you 1K diamonds...wow. Some people are mistaken that wrath VII was sold only once for 59 diamonds, that's not the case, it was at least 4-5 last year.

And like romage said, and I will say it cause I do care about the game, I'm afraid Frogster is pricing themselves out of the average players budget. Average players are struggling in RT, the last thing they think of is X runes on their DL gear. The X runes appeal to a very small percentage of the population.

Wow... can't believe I'm actually saying this... but I agree with Regentego on this one. While I see the price for the X runes being a "legitimate" price, and even "discounted" in comparison as to what it would cost to make it yourself, the pricing for them is so far beyond the reach of most players, that only a small few would consider going the distance for them.

I don't think the problem lies with the sales of them, but like Vfwiffo said, perhaps if they changed the cost of upgrading runes from 5 to 3 (at least over V tier), then it would help balance the cost vs. effort.

Quoted from "vfwiffo;514919"

Cost of VII runes sold by FA = 59 diamonds.

Number of VII runes needed to make X rune = 125.

Number of diamonds to make X rune from VII runes = 59*125 = 7375 (not counting the charges)

Actual cost of X rune = 299.

299 << 7375.

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Here are the CORRECT numbers

Cost of Wrath VII runes sold by FA = 59 diamonds.

Cost of Wrath VI rune sold by FA/FEU = 199 diamonds

Number of VI runes needed to make VII rune = 5.

Number of diamonds to make VII rune from VI runes = 199*5= 995 (also add 1 dia for 1 charges)

NEW cost of Wrath VII rune = 996 diamonds

996 / 59 = 16.88

Hence 1588% increase in price statements.

I really wish the Fanboi(s) would remain on topic. WRATH VI not the armor X runes... geez