Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "brogue;526222"

[COLOR=black !important](it would be nice if they would fix rogue skills that go against dex rather than pdef while they were at it, and that would be ok too)[/COLOR]

Eh? Ummm Fan lay of the drugs hun. I think 6th boss TosH is getting to you.

Yeah this thread just keeps rehashing the same argument over and over again. People say nerf the p/s, then p/s says well if you nerf me nerf rogues. How about people learn to pvp. I see soooo many people just run up by themselves against a team of opponents and get owned repeatedly, then cry to nerf the class that kills them.

I repeatedly killed the healers in the guild we sieged last night, not becuase I was OP, its because I buffed before going in and attacked them from the sides or behind where they were vulnerable. Strategy is great thing that most guilds don't bother using.

but....you didn't kill me

heretic>edh gogogo

Quoted from "Ravesden;526230"

but....you didn't kill me

heretic>edh gogogo

You already know I ignored you. Back healers (Viv) > extra large jumpy elf in the front. Yes, we sucked horribly last night.

Fanny crits 35-40k iceblades on me, zomg skill overpowered!

Quoted from "Ravesden;526379"

Fanny crits 35-40k iceblades on me, zomg skill overpowered!

And Fan get's one-two shot by rogues, warriors, mages, etc. Ya.. such an OP class. *Rolls eyes*

Bump.
Let's get this overpowered Ice Blade fixed

just disable IB and LB in SW. problem solved.:p

I honestly don't see why so many people are totally fine with rogues one-shotting people, yet if a P/S can kill someone in a few hits, they're OP.

As has been stated countless times on these forums, a P/S that does very good damage on players in siege is one that's very well geared. You're not going to kill anything in gear statted purely for heals. Not only that, but many players that go as P/S in siege don't play P/S in PvE. If you actually play a priest (or druid, but especially P/K) in PvE, you know how absolutely terrible damage is--if you have no offensive stats whatsoever, it takes ages to kill anything. Ice Blade is the answer to that, and is one of the only ways priests can solo quests in a reasonable amount of time; it does far less damage when statted for heals, but it's still faster than RT spam.

As for the people saying "priests are only for healing!" - try healing a quest mob to death and see where that gets you. I personally didn't like relying on guildmates to do dailies and quests before third classes became available, because soloing as a heal-statted P/K was terrible. I'd imagine a lot of other priests feel the same, too.

Answer for damage in PvP, which people have suggested many times and it has long gone ignored - decrease damage done in PvP by a %. Then it won't be such a loloneshotfest as it is now -- for any class.

Leave it alone, change stuff in siege but leave the skill alone, its not fair those who do play p/s in pve to have their one decent damage skill taken away because its to powerful for siege. Siege is ONE HOUR!! Where grinding tp on kills or doing quests takes a lot more then one.

Quoted from "Borella;526380"

And Fan get's one-two shot by rogues, warriors, mages, etc. Ya.. such an OP class. *Rolls eyes*

No she doesn't. I just look in Fan's direction and she falls over dead .

I think the best fix would just be reducing the range of ice blade. The only problem is that a P/S can pretty much ice blade you to death from one side of the siege arena to the other (Slightly exaggerated). But the range is really the problem here. Not how hard it hits. Although there is something very fishy about it hitting me for 90K+ when I have 100K Mdef.....

Quoted from "effervescent;526426"

I honestly don't see why so many people are totally fine with rogues one-shotting people, yet if a P/S can kill someone in a few hits, they're OP.

It takes a single endgame scout to kill a rogue in hide. If not in hide, anyone can kill a rogue, assuming at same skill/gear level.

As stated by one of the previous "This is how you kill a P/S" posts somewhere in this thread, it takes a whole group of people to swarm a single P/S to just to kill them.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;526477"

It takes a single endgame scout to kill a rogue in hide. If not in hide, anyone can kill a rogue, assuming at same skill/gear level.

As stated by one of the previous "This is how you kill a P/S" posts somewhere in this thread, it takes a whole group of people to swarm a single P/S to just to kill them.

A single scout can kill a rogue, but it's definitely not a guaranteed kill. The rogue still has defenses once unhidden such as Shadow Prison and simply sprinting away or flipping to the offensive.

On the other hand, any rogue that manages to sneak up on a P/S basically has a guaranteed kill. That forces P/S players to hug defenses anytime they're against someone who isn't an idiot and actually uses strategy.

A P/S with mage stats also has horrible defense (both magic and physical), so they're weak to ranged players that can get the first shot off like M/D, M/Wd, S/M, and S/Wd.

Probably the strongest thing about a P/S is their synergy with defenses. Silence limits other mages and healers while eyes take the advantage away from the physical classes that give them the most issues. P/S has the advantage against basically everyone else.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;526391"

Bump.
Let's get this overpowered Ice Blade fixed

bumping is against the forum rules

as of today im done with siege till RoM takes a serious look at Icebalde its total garbage 1 player can destroy a entire guild casue of a spammable skill its a joke and needs to be seriously nerfed yah some classes are better than others i give that and stated better but when one semi okay geared p/s is iceblading parties that are well geared regarldess what thier Mdef is its a joke you want players to keep playing fix things.

oh and another thing take siege war outa beta its been over 3 years ....

It's a ridiculous skill ... there is no reason that a UP p/s should be able to one-shot anything or anyone. One UP p/s can take out an entire group with a spammable skill like that. Give it a cooldown, make it take a percentage of MP (like you nerfed priests Group Heal), something, to make it not comepletely spammable over & over. With the mdef I have, I can reasonable stand a few hits (as p/k), but most classes are one-shotted by players much less statted than they are, it's utterly stupid for something like that to be allowed to be utilized in siege in it's current form. I'm all for letting them have the skill for PVE, but it needs some serious toning down for PVP.

Even in our guild the m/p are going as p/s, and are killer single target DPS, one of them had 90 kills tonight. Its amazing to see a single p/s hold a crystal with towers. I guess m/p to p/s doesn't even involve an equipment swap.

Uh oh, you did it now. Here comes the horde of P/S ready to present a hundred reasons why Ice Blade is not OP, which is exactly how you know that it needs nerfing. Just like how chapter 3 scouts all said everyone else just needs to "l2p" and that other classes were "just jealous."

To be honest, I would be fine with them just nerfing the range of the skill or the cool down. The main problem is not the the amount of damage a single Ice Blade delivers, but the number that can be delivered before most classes can get in range of the P/S.

Sigh, not this again. Of course regentego would jump on the thread (and yes, of course I would too). I'm not going to give reasons why here, as it's not pertenant and useless to have argued this three times. If you're going to complain about a skill, please make sure that there are not already threads on the subject. Seeing the same thing over and over again is obnoxious and monotonous. There is currently a thread (20 pages long if I'm correct) to complain about ice blade with. It also contains reasons why it should be nerfed, should not be nerfed, how it could be improved or fixed, and how siege should be fixed. There's no need to nerf 1 skill that makes a class (any class) for 1 hour a day.

There's also another thread from a couple months ago that complained with the same exact thing. Go take a look at that and see if it holds any of your questions, comments, or concerns. Thanks.

Yes, "Not this again."

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