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Monday, April 23rd 2012, 9:57pm

Quoted from "pazuzzu;526948"

tab is actually a macro though..its just calling a lua function like everything else. targetnearestenemy()...not selecting pets is just adding an if/then statement. cant be disabled without disabling all addons as well since you could just modify the function in lua unless they lock the function. i made one to target heticus only, or target by name, so i didnt range pull an exploding bear when off tanking at annelia. really useful at times outside of that fight too...change shift-tab bind to /targetspecific("Fandreith"). :þ


Hmmm, may be my new favorite targeting macro.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 12:34am

I personally don't use diyce, but I DO love the no-pet-target macro, until we can kill them I shall continue to use it...and for those of us on Artemis, ...change shift-tab bind to /targetspecific("Mattyb") ...lol

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 5:25am

so is iceblade a magic based attack because even cake doesnt stop instant death from it. im wondering if it isnt some other element that cant be blocked or resisted similar to the way meteor shower from a mage works to bypass mob resistances.
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 5:40am

Quoted from "scanderson;526885"

I wonder what would happen if the damage for Ice Blade was pDam instead of mDam?

I have a Priest/Scout and yes, it's ridiculously fast and the range is preposterous - without any buffs and pots. I certainly don't blame P/S's for not wanting to lose this incredible OP skill.
An incredibly OP skill? Really? When's the last time a P/S was at the top of the damage meter using Iceblade spam?

It's only a good skill in the broken PVP system that ROM has.

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so is iceblade a magic based attack because even cake doesnt stop instant death from it. im wondering if it isnt some other element that cant be blocked or resisted similar to the way meteor shower from a mage works to bypass mob resistances.
It's water damage.
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 6:25am

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so is iceblade a magic based attack because even cake doesnt stop instant death from it. im wondering if it isnt some other element that cant be blocked or resisted similar to the way meteor shower from a mage works to bypass mob resistances.


This is actually incorrect. Cake and Serestrum will stop all magical damage. Now, whether or not the player got a hit off before you used it is a different story; it also depends on the person's stats, gear, pet, etc. etc.
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 8:26am

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I personally don't use diyce, but I DO love the no-pet-target macro, until we can kill them I shall continue to use it...and for those of us on Artemis, ...change shift-tab bind to /targetspecific("Mattyb") ...lol


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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 10:15am

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;527025"

Glad we've gone from needing a whole guild to a whole server to defeat me.



Hmm, not sure I need that macro Matty but next time I see your guild grandma I want that macro with her name & a cruise missile...

That's one nasty old lady!!! ;)
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 1:54pm

Quoted from "CharlieBananas;527025"

Glad we've gone from needing a whole guild to a whole server to defeat me.



No you're not the problem matty, grandmama and his/her 60% speed movement and 80k Iceblades are the problem, grandma with three pets out zipping around like a runedisc, and seeing peeps in hide too. But no p/s is not OP.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 3:27pm

Quoted from "HerHeartMyFate;526990"

It's only a good skill in the broken PVP system that ROM has.


No disagreement with that statement.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 3:48pm

I say nerf wardens!! They have been OP for far too long. Pfft ice blade is for noobs. Get real and learn to dps as a p/k.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 4:28pm

To be honest though, you should really learn how to play your class in PVP. When i went as p/s, sure i was able to spam ice blade on several people but they learned quickly and that went away.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 5:08pm

Quoted from "Slaphappy03;527059"

To be honest though, you should really learn how to play your class in PVP. When i went as p/s, sure i was able to spam ice blade on several people but they learned quickly and that went away.


You should learn to play something that actually takes some skill. Sry but its broken. Only a p/s would defend it. I was a scout and while I don't think the devs knew their head from their butt in class balancing I'll have to agree I was a tool for defending something I knew was completley broken. You are a priest...deal with it

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 5:47pm

Quoted from "HadMatter;527064"

You should learn to play something that actually takes some skill. Sry but its broken. Only a p/s would defend it. I was a scout and while I don't think the devs knew their head from their butt in class balancing I'll have to agree I was a tool for defending something I knew was completley broken. You are a priest...deal with it

<--- Not a p/s and been defending it the whole thread.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 6:41pm

Quoted from "Ravesden;527070"

<--- Not a p/s and been defending it the whole thread.
Same. I'm a 70/70/51 R/S/K.

I don't get butthurt when a new challenge comes around. I adapt. I learn to play my class, and I learn to exploit whatever advantage my class has over the challenge facing me. I don't run to the forums and cry for nerfs. P/S and it's Ice Blade have been around since the day level 40 elite skills came out, and it's been fine until recently, because a couple people realized it had potential and geared up the class insanely.

However, I realize that if you nerf Ice Blade, you break the class. You don't nerf to balance PVP in this game: the only time a Dev should ever consider a nerf if it is imbalanced in PVE. Ice blade is not. Don't break the class. Fix the broken PVP system.

PVP is at most, one hour a day, for most people. PVE is 23 hours a day.

And learn to play something that takes skill? Really? We're gonna start with the insulting QQs now?
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 6:51pm

Quoted from "HerHeartMyFate;527080"

Same.

I don't get butthurt when a new challenge comes around. I adapt. I learn to play my class, and I learn to exploit whatever advantage my class has over the challenge facing me. I don't run to the forums and cry for nerfs. P/S and it's Ice Blade have been around since the day level 40 elite skills came out, and it's been fine until recently, because a couple people realized it had potential and geared up the class insanely.

However, I realize that if you nerf Ice Blade, you break the class. You don't nerf to balance PVP in this game: the only time a Dev should ever consider a nerf if it is imbalanced in PVE. Ice blade is not. Don't break the class. Fix the broken PVP system.

PVP is at most, one hour a day, for most people. PVE is 23 hours a day.

And learn to play something that takes skill? Really? We're gonna start with the insulting QQs now?


When did this discussion change from changing how much Mdef matters when it comes to iceblade inside of Siege War to "Lets put 20s CD on the skill and make it 50 range".

I think there are some reasonable people in this thread and some unreasonable ones, I do believe that someone has to look server side at what the skill is doing either way.

Also can someone explain to me what the harm is in the other solution of changing iceblade into a projectile so that the damage isn't instantaneous (or close to that) I think that's where a lot of the as some people in this topic want to call it "QQ" is coming from.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 6:58pm

I agree with Kefkai actually. This seems like the most logical solution. As someone in this thread mentioned the skill seems to spawn over the targets head and quickly drops on them, which is completely different from most every other ranged attack in this game. Would not require a CD, which so many p/s's currently don't want and might actually stop the weird spamming effect it currently has.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 7:11pm

Quoted from "Kefkai;527081"

When did this discussion change from changing how much Mdef matters when it comes to iceblade inside of Siege War to "Lets put 20s CD on the skill and make it 50 range".

I think there are some reasonable people in this thread and some unreasonable ones, I do believe that someone has to look server side at what the skill is doing either way.

Also can someone explain to me what the harm is in the other solution of changing iceblade into a projectile so that the damage isn't instantaneous (or close to that) I think that's where a lot of the as some people in this topic want to call it "QQ" is coming from.
When did I mention anything about Mdef? I'm talking about the people who want a skill nerf specifically, like putting a cooldown on it, etc. Not whatever you're saying. So I don't know what you're talking about. There are people in the thread talking about nerfing the skill specifically. Cutting down it's range, giving it CDs, etc. That's what I'm addressing.

Not everyone in this thread is talking to you, or is on the same discussion. Hell, there's people in this thread that are going on about disabling all addons upon entering PVP.

As long as the skill itself isn't nerfed, whatever. Make it a projectile, make mdef count for something, that's fine.

Or maybe fix PVP like this thread asks for, but I guess too many people like running around one shotting people and make them feel big.

I asked you a couple pages back to explain to me why you're going on about a P/S' healing when healing isn't going to save anyone in PVP during battle.

Edit: Though, you should probably make sure everything is then a projectile. To be fair! That includes shadow prison, and any other instants that hit.. instantly.
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 7:27pm

uh healing doesn't save anyone in pvp? Say that to the s/k's w/k's any /k DD with a pocket healer. Most definitely not true at all. Hell, as a r/s a good healer can keep me up for a while. A good p/s will pop regens all over themselves and easily heal themselves to full during battles or when going immune. More misinformation is always a good thing to add to this thread....:p.

Priority one for me as a rogue are the healers.

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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 7:29pm

Quoted from "brogue;527088"

uh healing doesn't save anyone in pvp? Say that to the s/k's w/k's any /k DD with a pocket healer. Most definitely not true at all. Hell, as a r/s a good healer can keep me up for a while. A good p/s will pop regens all over themselves and easily heal themselves to full during battles or when going immune. More misinformation is always a good thing to add to this thread....:p

The difference is you have a damage dealer AND a healer following you around.

If a priest is sitting there trying to heal itself in a 1v1 battle, it's going to die. Soon. And if you didn't interrupt those heals in some way, then you're doing it wrong.

And I highly doubt a regen tick has ever saved a life.

As everyone in this thread says, not just me - PVP is a one-hit fest for most classes. You can't heal a one hit.
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Tuesday, April 24th 2012, 7:34pm

Yeah sure all healers just stay out of siege you are not needed at all. The difference he is pointing out is that a p/s is both in one and do can excel at both. Regens have saved my butt from bleeds numerous times. p/s = king of regens in the priest class. ANY end game guild knows that heals are still a priority in any siege, sorry you are just flat out wrong.