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Monday, July 30th 2012, 9:52am

Quoted from "Borella;561312"

If you're RIGHT at the very edge of the castle walls, then yes. But if you're anywhere farther back on the wall then no.

Wouldn't at the edge of the castle wall still be considered on the wall? lol
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 9:54am

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Wouldn't at the edge of the castle wall still be considered on the wall? lol

Its an LOS issues not an iceblade issue. any class can do that.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 2:18pm

How is it a LoS issue when i was running up the steps behind the wall and still get nailed with IB. Not any class can do that btw, i've tried to shot ppl on top of their walls while playing my r/s in siege and guess what nothing happened. I'm sure its not a normal thing for IB to do that so im guessing other means were employed to bypass any sort of line of sight ie the WALLS. But anyways.... and yes other guildies were getting hit by the same thing by the same player so it wasn't just me.
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 4:18pm

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How is it a LoS issue when i was running up the steps behind the wall and still get nailed with IB. Not any class can do that btw, i've tried to shot ppl on top of their walls while playing my r/s in siege and guess what nothing happened. I'm sure its not a normal thing for IB to do that so im guessing other means were employed to bypass any sort of line of sight ie the WALLS. But anyways.... and yes other guildies were getting hit by the same thing by the same player so it wasn't just me.


Ok so first of all, that p/s u are referring to is me so I can guarantee that there were no "other means employed" to bypass anything. If you stand on the edge of a wall, you are in range for ANYONE with ranged attacks. Unless you count me jumping while using iceblade when u are standing o an edge as some kinda trick, nothing out of the ordinary occured.

And i watched that whole video, i didt see u get hit running up any steps through a wall. Only skills i know that can straight up bypass walls are chiron and aoes like your thunderstorm

edit: thought u were the mage who posted the video. Disregard that, i cant speak for what other players may or may not be doing.
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 4:46pm

Nope it was a Reni Server guild, i wont name names cause that would be against Forum rules
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 4:51pm

P/S has Los issues. Use that for a defense (move around things when encounter P/S)

If you got hit while walking around a corner up stairs. Its possible you were targetted and hit before you got around the wall. Just because of lag , it hit after
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 7:09pm

p/s skill iceblade and wl/r skill ss both dont have LOS issues like other range skills. For example if mage using fireball small tiny grass will be an obstacle sometimes but it wont happen to p/s IB or wl/r SS skills. Both skills land directly from top of target.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 7:17pm

Quoted from "amilineni;561458"

p/s skill iceblade and wl/r skill ss both dont have LOS issues like other range skills. For example if mage using fireball small tiny grass will be an obstacle sometimes but it wont happen to p/s IB or wl/r SS skills. Both skills land directly from top of target.



Shh as a wl/r we don't talk about Shadowstab. Nothing to see here folks move along.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 7:28pm

Quoted from "amilineni;561458"

p/s skill iceblade and wl/r skill ss both dont have LOS issues like other range skills. For example if mage using fireball small tiny grass will be an obstacle sometimes but it wont happen to p/s IB or wl/r SS skills. Both skills land directly from top of target.

Apparently you don't play p/s.they have Los issues in siege,I can never hit anyone on a wall with ib but alter of shadoj and bone chill work

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 7:56pm

Quoted from "amilineni;561458"

p/s skill iceblade and wl/r skill ss both dont have LOS issues like other range skills. For example if mage using fireball small tiny grass will be an obstacle sometimes but it wont happen to p/s IB or wl/r SS skills. Both skills land directly from top of target.


I always run into los issues on all three classes, jumping and using an instant will get over most of them, sometimes you can jump and use a cast time skill.

I've been hit on top of the wall with low blow and other close range skills as often as I've been hit there with t-storm, so it's not just a single class that can do it.

I don't generally try for people on the walls because it's very hit and miss and you're often wide open when you try.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 8:07pm

You all sound like goofballs to me. There is so much lag and porting in sige beta, that it can look like a line of sight because of lag. If you are on the edge of a castle wall you should be able to be shot. If you are away from edge you should LOS your target and not be shot. A mages TS should hit on top of walls because it is a fricken thunderstorm from above. Just like how Pikachu's Thunder hits pokemon who are using fly. As for hitting through gates that makes sense because there are big holes in the gates. Walls there are no holes. "He is cheating because he killed me!" seems to be the common theme since ch 2. If everyone was cheating who was accuesed of it then we would all be hacking. "He is hacking because he icebladed me when it "should" have been LOS!" sounds like exasperation at being killed by a broken and overpowerd iceblade.
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 8:14pm

Quoted from "timthum;561465"

Apparently you don't play p/s.they have Los issues in siege,I can never hit anyone on a wall with ib but alter of shadoj and bone chill work


please read what i said in previous post. I didnt said p/s IB can hit players on wall lol. I mentioned about grass on ground.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 9:28pm

Ok GM's CM's close this thread already, damn this has gone on for 72 pages and nothing is accomplished.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 9:35pm

Quoted from "Winston;561475"

. A mages TS should hit on top of walls because it is a fricken thunderstorm from above. Just like how Pikachu's Thunder hits pokemon who are using fly.


This is the same reasoning I used to propose that iceblade should ignore LoS, it is a blade of ice spawned from directly above and doesn't actually have to travel through anything. For some reason my idea hasn't been so popular though...
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 9:47pm

Quoted from "Quaffy2;561504"

This is the same reasoning I used to propose that iceblade should ignore LoS, it is a blade of ice spawned from directly above and doesn't actually have to travel through anything. For some reason my idea hasn't been so popular though...


Thunderstorm does not ignore line of sight though. You cannot cast it were you cannot target. Just on the very top edge of a wall. And I would imagine the negative feedback is because you have no cooldown on your IB. I think it should have a 1 second cd on top of the global cd. I am not worried about it because IB can't kill me, but I see why it is overpowered. Personaly I think the most overpowered class in siege is mage/warden. Ask Xareinguardians and they will probably agree with me.
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 9:59pm

Quoted from "Winston;561506"

Thunderstorm does not ignore line of sight though. You cannot cast it were you cannot target. Just on the very top edge of a wall. And I would imagine the negative feedback is because you have no cooldown on your IB. I think it should have a 1 second cd on top of the global cd. I am not worried about it because IB can't kill me, but I see why it is overpowered. Personaly I think the most overpowered class in siege is mage/warden. Ask Xareinguardians and they will probably agree with me.


Yeah m/wd hits like a truck, I assume sacredmagic is who XG knows about =). Although to be fair, thunderstorm also doesn't have a cd and it's like an aoe line of sight that allows more flexibilty for areas that you can hit
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 10:07pm

Quoted from "Quaffy2;561509"

Yeah m/wd hits like a truck, I assume sacredmagic is who XG knows about =). Although to be fair, thunderstorm also doesn't have a cd and it's like an aoe line of sight that allows more flexibilty for areas that you can hit

friggin sacredmagic >.> and i cant even get behind him because of all the scouts >.<

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 10:07pm

I think Iceblade needs to just be able to one shot everyone! hahaha sarcasm.

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Monday, July 30th 2012, 10:41pm

/flogs dead horse and runs away.
still on this?
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Monday, July 30th 2012, 10:55pm

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/flogs dead horse and runs away.
still on this?


I believe they updated the ToS with a clause that states whenever someone gets smacked by a well geared P/s in siege they have to start or post in an ice blade thread.