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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 7:38am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;529809"

But then again even if they release Shield X I don't think the Shield X + Advance X combination works. Five Recon IX's in AT doesn't create a Recon X.


Easy enough to check. They dont have to be X runes to see if Shield and Advance are not able to be combined. I checked couple servers, looks like Osha has both in tier II for cheap. Any Osha person wanna verify if that combo is enabled? My guess would be that it is OK, since Recon and Hatred are "sister" runes and Hatred X works.

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 7:44am

I bought the Advance and Shield runes from AH...they do combine @ tier 2
But I also bought 2 Advance X while on sale...still waiting on Shield X so i can make some big Recons for alts.
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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 9:06am

Quoted from "sadakko;529812"

Daym. Recon x on sale would be awesome.

Tanks wouldn't need to use hatred runes anymore, tickle the boss and stay still and you'll be tanking.

I'll have stam/def x 6 on all my gears and use a lvl. 1 weapon(with 6xstam/def) just for kicks.

Oh hey! p/k can start tanking too. Just stam heals and you'll have aggro!!! No hatred required.

Oh yea and let's all run In And attack the boss before the tank cuz hey I dont need to manage my aggro anymore since 2 recon x = 108%. That's neg agrro.

Yoo let's get a team of 6 people(1 p/s) with no tank and We can clear all instances, our pets will tank for us.. If my pet dies no worries there are 5 more and I'll just resummon real quick, we can take turn pet tanking till the boss drop.

Daym. I'm so excited. I hate those lame tankers. They are never around. Give us recon x and make them obsolete. I want everyone to have negative aggro not just triple weapon wielding noob s/r and r/s.

Oh yea. Make it cost the same or less then the Dias required to make hatred x so every can afford it. Screw who ever has a recon ix or x who paid 1-3billion gold for it. Yea you know.. We're the 99%(whiners)

I want keeness, enlightenment, ferocity, raids, wrath x rune and stuff too. Why are you guys selling tier 5 rune when there are x runes out? I mean WTF cmon there are x runes out, shyt!!

L2p ;)


Not how I would put it, but agree with Dakko 100% :D

Epic posting btw. Honest ;)

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 2:12pm

Quoted from "sadakko;529815"

If you want to make a recon X. U gotta lie, cheat and steal. No joke.


LMFAO! Time to wait for someone to get drunk at night... then its /roll time for some Recons ;)
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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 3:50pm

Quoted from "sadakko;529812"

Daym. Recon x on sale would be awesome.

Tanks wouldn't need to use hatred runes anymore, tickle the boss and stay still and you'll be tanking.

I'll have stam/def x 6 on all my gears and use a lvl. 1 weapon(with 6xstam/def) just for kicks.

Oh hey! p/k can start tanking too. Just stam heals and you'll have aggro!!! No hatred required.

Oh yea and let's all run In And attack the boss before the tank cuz hey I dont need to manage my aggro anymore since 2 recon x = 108%. That's neg agrro.

Yoo let's get a team of 6 people(1 p/s) with no tank and We can clear all instances, our pets will tank for us.. If my pet dies no worries there are 5 more and I'll just resummon real quick, we can take turn pet tanking till the boss drop.

Daym. I'm so excited. I hate those lame tankers. They are never around. Give us recon x and make them obsolete. I want everyone to have negative aggro not just triple weapon wielding noob s/r and r/s.

Oh yea. Make it cost the same or less then the Dias required to make hatred x so every can afford it. Screw who ever has a recon ix or x who paid 1-3billion gold for it. Yea you know.. We're the 99%(whiners)

I want keeness, enlightenment, ferocity, raids, wrath x rune and stuff too. Why are you guys selling tier 5 rune when there are x runes out? I mean WTF cmon there are x runes out, shyt!!

L2p ;)


Best post. Like I said, dont let cash replace skill

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 5:37pm

"Don't let cash replace skill" is a sad argument for RoM. If you want it that way, sell all your gear and restat it using only what you are given in your 1-50 bags, because those are free. Even then, you can't really use it because those are cash items. In this game, the person with the most cash to spend has the most to gain, unless you're smart about it.

Recon runes please.
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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 5:50pm

I'm still waiting for my Curse X rune :)
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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 6:57pm

Quoted from "sabrione;529868"

"Don't let cash replace skill" is a sad argument for RoM. If you want it that way, sell all your gear and restat it using only what you are given in your 1-50 bags, because those are free. Even then, you can't really use it because those are cash items. In this game, the person with the most cash to spend has the most to gain, unless you're smart about it.

Recon runes please.


So what is your argument for recon X again? Beside there is hatred X so there must be recon X? Hatred X is an irreversible and irreparable mistake that I'm glad Frogster doesn't repeat again.

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 7:02pm

balancing the game so that both runes are not needed wouldve been the better way - but balancing does not make money because noone is "encouraged" to start all over again and spend the next 10k diamonds on upgrading items :)

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 9:11pm

Quoted from "heoboy123;529877"

So what is your argument for recon X again? Beside there is hatred X so there must be recon X? Hatred X is an irreversible and irreparable mistake that I'm glad Frogster doesn't repeat again.


That you hope Frogster doesn't repeat again. They've repeated many bad mistakes over and over and over again. My argument, aside from the obvious, is that many people can not keep up with another person's aggro/lack there of, and that is not their fault. For instance: if a Knight can not hold aggro on a boss or mob, it then goes to the person with the next highest aggro; let's say a warrior. That warrior may not have the pdef to take on that mob or boss, so they die. Even if they had recons in, they might not have been enough in order to save their ass. It's a horrible repeated process throughout the entire group. I've had it happen more times than I can count, often times when I was the next target on the list, even with two rec IX's in, and my instant de-aggro skill. That's why I think they should be put into the CS.
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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 11:27pm

So its a combination of both the tank and the dps fault, not the runes. Tanks with hatred and their aggro multiplier skills shouldnt lose aggro by any mean. An exception is when the dps outgears the tank badly and in that case, he should wait for aggro build up or watch the threatmeter closely. Or just dont run with bad tanks. Instead of relying on skills to manage aggro, you just pay some cash to get fancy runes eh.

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Thursday, May 10th 2012, 11:57pm

Quoted from "sabrione;529900"

That you hope Frogster doesn't repeat again. They've repeated many bad mistakes over and over and over again. My argument, aside from the obvious, is that many people can not keep up with another person's aggro/lack there of, and that is not their fault. For instance: if a Knight can not hold aggro on a boss or mob, it then goes to the person with the next highest aggro; let's say a warrior. That warrior may not have the pdef to take on that mob or boss, so they die. Even if they had recons in, they might not have been enough in order to save their ass. It's a horrible repeated process throughout the entire group. I've had it happen more times than I can count, often times when I was the next target on the list, even with two rec IX's in, and my instant de-aggro skill. That's why I think they should be put into the CS.


hey. With 2 Recon IX, just use a tranq powder.

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Friday, May 11th 2012, 12:15am

Quoted from "sadakko;529937"

hey. With 2 Recon IX, just use a tranq powder.


I'd appreciate if the name calling was not here, thanks. It's not necessary. If you knew the amount if foods I use in order to stay where I am, you wouldn't say that. Don't accuse until you know the facts.
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Friday, May 11th 2012, 1:00am

Quoted from "sabrione;529943"

I'd appreciate if the name calling was not here, thanks. It's not necessary. If you knew the amount if foods I use in order to stay where I am, you wouldn't say that. Don't accuse until you know the facts.


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Friday, May 11th 2012, 1:07am

Really, since when does tranq becomes a luxury good. I believe just 1 tosh hm run could help you level alchemy to lv 25 and buy enough mats to make 5 stacks of tranq. All the arguments for recon X so far: I cant manage my aggro !! or I'm too lazy to utilize available tools to manage my aggro !? or My tank sucks :(

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Friday, May 11th 2012, 2:05am

Quoted from "sabrione;529943"

I'd appreciate if the name calling was not here, thanks. It's not necessary. If you knew the amount if foods I use in order to stay where I am, you wouldn't say that. Don't accuse until you know the facts.


Hey. Sorry for me resorting to calling you a [redacted]. I didn't mean to call you a [redacted] My deepest regret and apology my dear friend.

What I wanted to say is that; he's just lazy and don't wint to support the game economy, alchemist need alittle love too.

Anyways, I know a player in rom who has 2 recon x and by what he relates to me always; recon x Is too imbalanced. You talk about balancing classes and stuff in your sig but yet u want to despot this game and all the party, tank, dps and mechanic in this game. It's bad enuff hatred X was released rite? So why would u want recon x to exist. Two negative doesn't make thing positive. This isn't math haha.

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Friday, May 11th 2012, 2:09am

Hint: There is a class in rom that can cast an aggro reducing debuff on people while outside an instance.
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Friday, May 11th 2012, 2:12am

Damn this inferno thread just cut out 2/3 of my post.

Blah to keep thing short.

I want loot x rune out man. My housemaid sometime don't make lucky target and when she does make them. I tend to forget to click it.

Raid and curse x is cool too. Saves me from clicking my stim pot when I am able to find a dod party.


Blah blah iPhone 2G while using he can blah blah killed 66% of my post blah blah or is there a limit on how many words? Blah blah bi dunno how Murphy does it.

Keeping things real short.

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Friday, May 11th 2012, 2:27am

Quoted from "sadakko;529959"


Blah blah iPhone 2G while using he can blah blah killed 66% of my post blah blah or is there a limit on how many words? Blah blah bi dunno how Murphy does it.

I dont know either :D

I agree, people need to just learn to manage their aggro rather than having to resort to buying their way through each problem that comes up. Yeah, this is a P2Win game, but can we at least have some type of situation where the amount you spend doesnt equate to how well you do?

I'm sorry Sabrione, but the logic of having Recon X out just because there is Hatred X out is simply wrong. I would rather not have Hatred X at all, but Hatred X would never create the imbalance that Recon X would. Dakko's analogy of having a group full of people with Recon X out is *very* much real. I've witnessed instances where there are 2 rogue/scout left in the party with -aggro and the pet is tanking the boss - and it works.

So no, I don't think Recon X should be available in-game. We don't need to add more imbalance to this game.

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Friday, May 11th 2012, 2:46am

If Xs shouldnt be out for all classes, then hows about recon's only being aloud in main hand .. being a mage with only 1 recon , Not fun. seeing other classes ( r/s) with upto 3 makes me wana cry.