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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 6:45am

Chaos Vortex Weapons (my suggestion)

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~Chaos Vortex Weapons~

From looking at the database and the news published by the Welten, these Chaos Weps have enormous potential to be endgame weapons. They are like many epic weapons from before (moa, ancient) and have powerful stats compared to others of the same level.
You will not expect everybody to have these, most of the materials necessary to create these weapons are from the new instances that might come out this June.
After looking at the stats, the automatic tier and plussing, and the agg of these weapons I was really excited to try and get them.

~About Me and others from my knowledge~ (don't worry its part of it, I kind of get into other issues to, as to support my argument)

I'm an average player, accept that I switch classes quite often, and when I do this I start from scratch...nill...zippo...nada. Still leveling to 60 here :P I read a lot, and I mean A LOT about this game. I've come to get acquainted with the mechanics of this game all too well (just massaging my ego here). Leveling for me was the in and easy part, and when I''d get a new piece od piece of gear for my new classes I was like WOO HOO.

After learning all my colors in HoS I went on to farm DoD with the occasional WA. This was actually pretty fun 'cause it was the FIRST TIME where I mattered, even though I had shitty gear I still got 10% or so from high dps and saved a couple rogues' skins.

After farming for forever, and getting surprisingly cheap od Raksha Temple gear I started trying to stat, learning and finding out from guildies how to work the finer points of the game. I'd go to Xerxee's, Fan's, Legless's guides to find out what the "endgamers" did. This is around the time it hits the free to players like me (Don't hate me regen:p). People who invest some of their money at this stage aren't really seen as pay to players as they maybe pay $10 per month (guessing), unless of course they go all hardcore and start the $200 per month that many higher middlish endgamers do.

These guys survive until around GC, Sardo Castle is doable some even last through it over loooong periods of time and get to. Also during this I'm doing siege, one of the most complained over aspects of the game. Many people get frustrated here, at themselves, at others, at the devs. A lot of people quit the game as they see there is just too much work involved. Many see that they will need to invest a massive amount of time trying to get to the higher instances. It is true that not everybody wants to reach endgame, but when they see other people flying by and the effort and work their guild leader may be doing they decide to go to another park where the jungle gyms aren't so hard to climb.

This is an MMO though. You aren't going to be served everything on a silver platter (most cases). You have to grit your teeth and get through it. The Cash Shop is accessible to everyone as long as people continue to buy diamonds (I won't go into my lack of sales speel). The thing is, not everyone can afford to use it. To play this game you HAVE to have exposure to the Item Shop. Don't say that you it is not necessary. If the Item Shop was removed, NO ONE would be able to get gear in the higher instances (there would be other side effects as well, but this is just to prove point).

The difficulty of getting gear leads me to my little complaint over the Chaos Vortex weapons. As many have said only the 15 -10% of players reach endgame. With the new instance coming out (maybe), only the endgamers will have access to these weapons and the people who shell out for them. These are really good weapons suitable for endgame. I guess it would be reasonable for endgamers to have, but consider this trend, as MMOs get bigger and bigger the gear and difficulty of instances get better and harder to please the endgamers. When it gets too big the once fun experience that many people experienced in the days of the level 50 cap and still do today suddenly disappears. Today in RoM its nothing to get to level 50 except for a few gtz from a few friendly people, who actually don't really care.

I really wanna get these weapons for reasons I've already stated, but from what the current way things seem to be going it'll be impossible for me to get, like the gingerbread man (haha...-.-).
I'll probably never be able to get into Chaos Vortex for a llllloooonnngg time. An endgamer may say that they went through the same thing, yes you did, but then, they were the endgamers and were higher above the rest.

~My Suggestion for Chaos Vortex Weapons~
Make it so that those who aren't endgamers can have access to these weapons exactly how they would be when going the normal way by doing something else that would entail more work than going through Chaos Vortex. Many endgamers may talk about how it was easier for the non-endgamers to get the weapons and that they spent a lot of money on their gear. This is not a post against endgamers btw and yes they are right if the say this. That is why everything canot be like this. A weapon contributes a lot to a person's performance in the game and it would help make goals for the people who reached the level can and are ungeared easier and bring back players. Selling power in an MMORPG is a big no-no in my book when scouting out a game to play. If RoM is changed so that you didn't have to rely on the Item Shop then I believe the game would flourish and with the new chapter many people would come back and enjoy the content. Then and only then would I extend my game/brand

Also, side note. Some of the stats on the weapons aren't really the best setup or preferred for players. Maybe make it so that players could choose the stats by adding eternity stat choice as well?

I know that many of these things are subject to change in the game and new chapter, but this is based on what is currently known, passed, and experienced by me, except for some stuff that I left out on purpose 'cause I'm sweepy :)


This'll be my last post for a month, goin somewhere without electricity, so sadly I'll miss the new Chapter 5 release. Hey Dionaea!, maybe put in a good word for me to postpone it due to "technical issues", I gave you the coffee and hot water. I trust that you will get the job done :P

The reason I made this post was not only the Chaos Weps, but also my opinions on matters other than that. All topics are talked about on the forums often, I'm trying to piece it together into a big picture

Not really good as my last post for awhile though, made this at 11 pm lol I haven't read it over, add info that I missed please or chose to to help boost the points.

I'm pretty sure this is my longest post. I made this to get back at Fan for making such big ones :p

~ See you next month, Sascori~

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 6:48am

Holy [redacted hey I could be a gm lol, just do this :p] that was longer than I wanted it to be

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 7:19am

The gauntlet has been thrown. Can Fan outdo this post in sheer length? She is clearly the favorite, but this was ... elaborate.

Me, I have no idea what those weapons are all about. Rom-welten is always informative, of course, but they have no idea what will be released and what wont be. Eve and legendary weapons are proof of some things being implemented, but not really released.

What the article implies is that it is an aid to people who are doing CV. The sentence "We have prepared reserve weapons, but they only exist in the Chaos Vortex. Because we are short of a stabilizing agent, Prime Resonator Crystals" sounds like you can somehow obtain those weapons to run CV, but you cant take them out. That would also explain what they said about them being already T10 and +16. They are end gamer weapons, but they are for rent, not for own.

Now, if you can use them to farm the Prime Resonator Crystal, then you can make a stable version that exists outside of CV, and that version is probably going to be plussable/tierable/drillable.

I guess we'll know in 3 weeks unless someone in promotion department starts doing more promotions *hint, hint*
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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 7:27am

Before i start reading it, what do i get for it? :)

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 3:31pm

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Before i start reading it, what do i get for it? :)


a bag of chips

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 3:32pm

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The gauntlet has been thrown. Can Fan outdo this post in sheer length? She is clearly the favorite, but this was ... elaborate.


Go look at her mage thread

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 5:20pm

Quoted from "RoMunited;532772"

Go look at her mage thread


+1. As I believe I saw someone else say on that post, a 10 minute to read post on how to spam flame. :P

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 5:40pm

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+1. As I believe I saw someone else say on that post, a 10 minute to read post on how to spam flame. :P

<3 Fan, but she is insane.


I should hire her to write my essays

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 6:00pm

I have a question.

You seem to want to make the endgame weapons more accessible to those who don't use the cash shop or put in an insane amount of time on the game to purchase the weapons from endgamers with gold... but yet, both running for the weapon or spending a lot of time grinding for gold are very difficult to begin with. How do you propose to make it more difficult for non-endgame to use a rental function on the weapons?
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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 8:35pm

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Holy [redacted hey I could be a gm lol, just do this :p] that was longer than I wanted it to be


ACK WALL OF TEXT. And people say I make them. Love it hope to see you ingame.

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 10:39pm

I will be surprised if this gets fully implemented.

Remember those 65 legendary weapons and all those instances that were getting hard modes? oh that's right... you can't do it because runewaker has a habit of building things and never finishing them.
They are the contractor you have to sue to get your money back from that back porch you were having them build but they never put any nails or screws in it.

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 10:48pm

Death Knell Level: 70 Type: Dagger, Position: 1-H
2407 Damage,1358 Magical Damage Points,230 STR,1380 pAttk
  • Chaos Vortex Fury IX: 136 DEX, 884 LP
  • Chaos Vortex Fearlessness IX: 136 DEX, 340 pAttk
  • Chaos Vortex Breakthrough IX: 136 DEX, 748 mDef
  • Chaos Vortex Enigma IX: 340 pAttk, 748 Def
  • Chaos Vortex Thunderclap IX: 136 STR, 136 STA
  • Chaos Vortex Madness IX: 136 STR, 748 Def


Ugh.... HOLY CRAP?


Ugh... GF shint mainhand and shint offhand... fml.

EDIT: Where do you get "Prime Resonator Crystal"? It did not say where in article...

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Saturday, May 26th 2012, 11:30pm

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Death Knell Level: 70 Type: Dagger, Position: 1-H
2407 Damage,1358 Magical Damage Points,230 STR,1380 pAttk
  • Chaos Vortex Fury IX: 136 DEX, 884 LP
  • Chaos Vortex Fearlessness IX: 136 DEX, 340 pAttk
  • Chaos Vortex Breakthrough IX: 136 DEX, 748 mDef
  • Chaos Vortex Enigma IX: 340 pAttk, 748 Def
  • Chaos Vortex Thunderclap IX: 136 STR, 136 STA
  • Chaos Vortex Madness IX: 136 STR, 748 Def


Ugh.... HOLY CRAP?


Ugh... GF shint mainhand and shint offhand... fml.

EDIT: Where do you get "Prime Resonator Crystal"? It did not say where in article...


I think they are boss drops too, lol I love the molten lava in each wep. For some of the stats I turn away and cry, but they are nice. I like

  • Blood Baron Level: 70 Type: 2-H Sword, Position: 2-H
    5130 Damage, 2248 Magical Damage Points, 460 STR, 2760 pAttk
    • Chaos Vortex Guard IX: 136 STA, 340 pAttk
    • Chaos Vortex Protection IX: 136 STA, 136 DEX
    • Chaos Vortex Agility IX: 136 STR, 340 pAttk
    • Chaos Vortex Enhancement IX: 136 STR, 136 DEX
    • Chaos Vortex Thunderclap IX: 136 STR, 136 STA
    • Chaos Vortex Madness IX: 136 STR, 748 Def


  • Heartless One Level: 70 Type: 2-H Axe, Po
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For its agg, andd I would get the Ischim for the attributes.

btw I have a laptop, but I probably won't be able to get in game, I'll just be in raid

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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 12:08am

Quoted from "L3g3nd;532849"

Death Knell Level: 70 Type: Dagger, Position: 1-H
2407 Damage,1358 Magical Damage Points,230 STR,1380 pAttk
  • Chaos Vortex Fury IX: 136 DEX, 884 LP
  • Chaos Vortex Fearlessness IX: 136 DEX, 340 pAttk
  • Chaos Vortex Breakthrough IX: 136 DEX, 748 mDef
  • Chaos Vortex Enigma IX: 340 pAttk, 748 Def
  • Chaos Vortex Thunderclap IX: 136 STR, 136 STA
  • Chaos Vortex Madness IX: 136 STR, 748 Def


Ugh.... HOLY CRAP?


Ugh... GF shint mainhand and shint offhand... fml.

EDIT: Where do you get "Prime Resonator Crystal"? It did not say where in article...


That was in the boss drop table section in another welten page.

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Four bosses of "Chaos Vortex: Evil" are known right now. There is no specific order of them available, but a clue should be the amount of Ancient Mementos that those drop.
  • Periehr: Fiend, Level 72, 50 and 32 Ancient Memento
  • Sormyn: Fiend, Level 73, 100 and 4 Ancient Memento
  • Gorlo: Demon, Level 73, 100 and 26 Ancient Memento
  • Palogis: Fiend, Level 73, 100 and 48 Ancient Memento


Gruppe 8 (for each weapon exists a Prime Resonator Crystal):
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the 2-handed sword Blood Baron. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the 1-handed sword Scourge of the Otherworld. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the 2-handed axe Heartless One. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the 1-handed axe Tragiterra. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the 2-handed hammer Armageddon. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the 1-handed hammer Ex Terra. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the war bow Shatterhowl. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the crossbow False Idol. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the dagger Death Knell. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the wand Sundersoul. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the wand Chaos Tide. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the staff Desolate Hope. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)
  • Prime Resonator Crystal (Crystal required to produce the staff Wrath Schism. One of the raw materials required for Chaos Vortex series weapons.)


4 mementos looks to be a typo, btw. Overall, it sounds Moa Core-ish.
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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 12:13am

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That was in the boss drop table section in another welten page.



4 mementos looks to be a typo, btw. Overall, it sounds Moa Core-ish.


Ya chaos vortex boss drops I think two down. Im on an iPad right now cause my battery died on my laptop, so I won't be making any of these longs posts for awhile

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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 12:29am

Oh.... Boss drops items. Scared me for a second because I was like, "OMG crafted items > Hard instance items! :O"

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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 12:31am

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Go look at her mage thread


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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 12:31am

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Oh.... Boss drops items. Scared me for a second because I was like, "OMG crafted items > Hard instance items! :O"



Lol you may be able to do it, I wouldn't, well juts have to see how it plays out

A Gigi, I actually read the whole thing once? I was pretty Exhausted by the end of it

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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 1:41am

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a bag of chips


Wheres my bag of chips! But ye, i liked how everything flowed together, didn't lose me in the wall of text...

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Sunday, May 27th 2012, 2:23am

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Lol you may be able to do it, I wouldn't, well juts have to see how it plays out

A Gigi, I actually read the whole thing once? I was pretty Exhausted by the end of it


Actually those boss drops everyone was referring to is listed under the list of weapons that can be created from the very link you linked.
I don't think they're boss drops. I think they're actually weapons that can be made FROM boss drops.