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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:05am

Pets in siege

We faced a guild tonight with players having 3 pets either warden, priest and couldn't target them, but we could target all the pets. Maybe Frogster should make siege like the last GM event we had, white gear, no pet, siege based on skills. For me using those tactics = Exploiting.

Warden makes me lag still even tho it was supposed to be fixed. Why can't these issues be adressed and fixed???

Second siege against Indigo server, lag issues in both of them. Are you gonna blame the connections again? bad servers will stay bad servers. Does Frogster know what causes lag in siege?? and don'T give me your BETA crap please, thx

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:08am

Or maybe let us siege against our own server only since you can't seem to fix the lag issue. When facing guild from our server Reni, i suffer from no lag usually. And have an inter server tournament once a month, tell us when it happens, so i make sure we don't sign up for it, since there is no point, until you fix it.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:09am

Quoted from "zidlef;535007"

We faced a guild tonight with players having 3 pets either warden, priest and couldn't target them, but we could target all the pets. Maybe Frogster should make siege like the last GM event we had, white gear, no pet, siege based on skills. For me using those tactics = Exploiting.

Warden makes me lag still even tho it was supposed to be fixed. Why can't these issues be adressed and fixed???

Second siege against Indigo server, lag issues in both of them. Are you gonna blame the connections again? bad servers will stay bad servers. Does Frogster know what causes lag in siege?? and don'T give me your BETA crap please, thx



Siege today was laggy, seemed laggier than most, don't think that's related to Wardens and pets..

/run for i=1,10 do TargetNearestEnemy(IsShiftKeyDown()) if UnitIsPlayer("target") then break end end
/run if not UnitIsPlayer("target") then TargetUnit("") end

Use that to target players though as a macro, using pets isn't considered an exploit but really there's no particular reason that they should be attackable in the first place.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:16am

TYVM for the macro ;-), but still sad that we can't kill the ffreaking pets, what is up with that?? True that players who can't play their class, use every trick in the book. Just sad to see it ;-( But enough QQ they won't change anything

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:16am

i belive in the white gear no stats no pets.this would make siege skill based and not a 1 shot fest
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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:22am

Yeah just use a macro...

I have an autotarget macro that skips pets and it's amazing. Fixes that problem.
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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:28am

Quoted from "Kefkai;535010"

Siege today was laggy, seemed laggier than most, don't think that's related to Wardens and pets..

/run for i=1,10 do TargetNearestEnemy(IsShiftKeyDown()) if UnitIsPlayer("target") then break end end
/run if not UnitIsPlayer("target") then TargetUnit("") end

Use that to target players though as a macro, using pets isn't considered an exploit but really there's no particular reason that they should be attackable in the first place.


I've used that macro for some time, its a must have.

On a side note, gratz Kefkai & your guildies on your siege win today. You guys had us on the run right from the start.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:30am

The egg pets provide buffs. Wardens are useless without their pets and it would gimp their class. Priest pets provide useful buffs as well.

Im tired of people complaining about things without knowing anything. The skip pet macro has been around for ages, over a year now. How people dont have it is beyond me.

On top of that, siegeing only your own server? why not just just have endless guild wars. If i want to PK someone on my server, ill war them and shank them. The entire point of siege is to be a cross server activity, without the cross server aspect it loses its purpose.

If you hate siege, stop signing up, but these ideas wont help siege.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:36am

Quoted from "timthum;535012"

i belive in the white gear no stats no pets.this would make siege skill based and not a 1 shot fest




I agree with this also. It would level the playing field instead the way it is now. Now it is whomever has the most money wins siege, and not skill.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:42am

Darwec, i was asking and making suggestions. If you can't handle it, don't read it. All white gear and based on skills, hell ya. At least the players who did their quest, got TP and know how to play their toons, that would be fun.

I went toe to toe with Druidvolo in that tournement, the longest fight and it was fun as hell. Best thing the GM ever did as an event.

TYVM Kefkai for your help and no nonsense ;-). More helping players like you is what we need.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:45am

I have a rather strong aversion towards macros/diyce but I do use the player target one kefkai listed as it's pretty much the only to combat someone with 3 pets or around a hundread flames/treaches etc

WTB collision combat :3

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:49am

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;535022"

Zidlef, this is possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. Hands down. Without a doubt. Please stop trying.

If you can't figure out how to tab target through or how to macro through pets, thats your own fault. The egg pets provide buffs. Wardens are useless without their pets and it would gimp their class. Priest pets provide useful buffs as well. The vanity pets, well just learn to not suck at siege war and you'll be fine.

Im tired of people complaining about things without knowing anything. The skip pet macro has been around for ages, over a year now. How people dont have it is beyond me.

On top of that, siegeing only your own server? why not just just have endless guild wars. If i want to PK someone on my server, ill war them and shank them. The entire point of siege is to be a cross server activity, without the cross server aspect it loses its purpose.

If you hate siege, stop signing up, dont waste everyone elses time with your non-sense.


i dont thimk this was neccesary, remember flaming on other players is against forum rules.AND these are good ideas. skill should determine rankings not who can lag the out to point that it stops becoming fun.
i was in the tourney that Zidlef was talking about and i believe everyone had a blast.look at my sig i know all to well how much the pet helps but they are not needed in siege.
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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 5:50am

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;535022"

Zidlef, this is possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. Hands down. Without a doubt. Please stop trying.

Wardens are useless without their pets and it would gimp their class. Priest pets provide useful buffs as well.

Im tired of people complaining about things without knowing anything.



First of all, who are you to say anything about trying? Your a rogue, you don't have to try at anything. A simple hide-shadow stab-hide and your done.

Second, Rogues are the most useless without their hide or as I like to put it "their pet"

Third, you can't say much just to the fact your a rogue. You don't know much about this game. Learn to play a real class then come back and comment on this post about people saying they don't know anything.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:11am

How was the PvP event the best thing ever... people won because of Chiron, or other idiotic things, not because they are good players. No, i'm not saying they were sucky players, just that it's not ALL based on skill. If siege was taken down to just everyone in white gear there would still be classes that are simply BETTER than everyone else. Namely: Magic dps classes especially.
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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:14am

Quoted from "DowntownOwn;535035"

First of all, who are you to say anything about trying? Your a rogue, you don't have to try at anything. A simple hide-shadow stab-hide and your done.

Second, Rogues are the most useless without their hide or as I like to put it "their pet"

Third, you can't say much just to the fact your a rogue. You don't know much about this game. Learn to play a real class then come back and comment on this post about people saying they don't know anything.


Im sorry, I wasn't aware that playing a rogue for 3 years and learning the class inside and out made me useless. I wasnt aware that learning how to actually play as a rogue, and knowing how to survive without hide wasnt possible. As you clearly know more about this game than i do, please, enlighten me. If rogues are a noob class, what is a good class to play show my skills? Warden/scout who one shots people with their pets because they ignore pdef? or maybe a mage with flame and thunderstorm spamming?

Rogue's arnt a noob class, there are just lots of noob rogues. I am not one of those noob rogues. Dont start with me.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:24am

Quoted from "GarryL;535019"

I've used that macro for some time, its a must have.

On a side note, gratz Kefkai & your guildies on your siege win today. You guys had us on the run right from the start.

Have I told you I hate rogues? :)


Yeah, you should see me on Wd/S, I find the class more fun, but still working on the TP to build on it.

Also @Downtownown your comment is sort of stupid, Rogues don't have to try? They try as much as any other class assuming they're not just walking around siege in hide picking off randoms.

At your 'second' thing, rogues are really squishy, thus why hide, and since when can someone who's a rogue not talk about other classes? I personally am maxed on R/S/Wd on Kefkai and I have a end-game geared Priest P/S/K, all Fairies have their uses, as do Wd pets. If you took away the ability to summon Warden pets, you'd take away all Warden Buffs making them fairly useless in siege.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:31am

I mean really, yea learn to target, there are tons of ways around targetting issues. However, i have recently seen it is next to impossible to kill the pets. I would like to see that back where to make it easier to target them i just kill their pets. TS for the win. Or play a rogue, that way you can be in hide and have the time to properly choose your target, or any class with an AoE to not have to target.

Rogues have a lot of trouble dropped high end def chars, that is why my g/f loves playing her W/k in siege, 2 hand axe and 200k phys def with 160k health. Rogues Generally dont like her. Just learn to find a class that is designed to have an advantage over rogues if you dont like them so much.

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:36am

Quoted from "Kefkai;535044"


Also @Downtownown your comment is sort of stupid, Rogues don't have to try? They try as much as any other class assuming they're not just walking around siege in hide picking off randoms.


So your saying, if rogues didn't use hide (which is highly impossible) they would have to try? So your pretty much agreeing with the fact that since they use hide, they don't have to try. Thanks for the support Kefkai! Remember, Flaming at other players on the forums is against the rules ;)

One more thing @thebadtouch, I highly ever see Mages spamming flame in siege. It is usually fireball which even it has a cooldown. Also, we have to spam thunderstorm in order to find the wuss rogues that love the little skill called Hide cause they can't show themselves in a battlefield. So when the rogues don't have to use hide to mow down 4-5 people in a group that is in front of them just like any other class can. Let's talk, until then, rogues are still the most unskillful class in this game. :) To finish this, off, I have already started and I won't stop. So bring it on :)

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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:40am

That last event wasn't really about skill, i lute and tamb and 1 hit everyone cept a certain wd/s
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Thursday, June 7th 2012, 6:45am

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So your saying, if rogues didn't use hide (which is highly impossible) they would have to try? So your pretty much agreeing with the fact that since they use hide, they don't have to try. Thanks for the support Kefkai! Remember, Flaming at other players on the forums is against the rules ;)

One more thing @thebadtouch, I highly ever see Mages spamming flame in siege. It is usually fireball which even it has a cooldown. Also, we have to spam thunderstorm in order to find the wuss rogues that love the little skill called Hide cause they can't show themselves in a battlefield. So when the rogues don't have to use hide to mow down 4-5 people in a group that is in front of them just like any other class can. Let's talk, until then, rogues are still the most unskillful class in this game. :) To finish this, off, I have already started and I won't stop. So bring it on :)


Uhm siege has a goal unless you've failed to realize, if you're just standing around picking off randoms and aren't fortifying your defenses, etc, where you are then you're not really doing anything. I mean cutting off supply lines can take skill especially if a group comes in numbers, doesn't matter what class you are, because if they have a general idea where you are you're now defending territory.

Killing people in siege in general isn't hard, doesn't matter what class you are, because of how the pvp system is set up.

Offense and defense is where actual skills become a factor (along with Teamwork).