Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Abaishtona;535544"

If items didn't need ABLs, I would have spent a lot more money helping guildies and friends through plussing and stuff when I got good drops. But the fact that you need an ABL for KS drop is completely stupid. I could understand that top weapon drop, but dungeons should be phased out where after an expansion or something, all items in the dungeon just need a bind lifter or something. Of course the new dungeons could still have ABL required items. KT, RT, HoS, etc shouldn't have ABL items anymore.

+1

Just throwing this out there but wasn't it said in the item shop repricing that not everything was listed because the list would be too long?

Maybe this conversation should wait until after Tuesday when the new pricing comes out, after all we don't know for sure that they aren't being reduced

educated guess: they wont change them at all.

why? because on the EU side they still wont include them permanently (they said so). i doubt they change default prices on stuff that is not included on the EU side permanently.

Purple gear being BoE by default works well on PvE servers but not PvP.

Here we a presented with a problem. If they streamline both CS, we will lose ABLs on our side. Rage will come!

Honestly gear should be BoE. I think it's moronic that you or a friend have to pay to unbind a piece of gear, even something as awful as HoS gear, or those from the 50 instances (which have really sad drop rates to begin with). They'd still sell ABLs for those that outgrew gear, and yes, I agree with those people who have said they'd make more money because more people will be buying puris/jewels/etc.

As it is, a lot of people have been vendoring DL/ZS/HoS/sometimes RT gear since the beginning of chapter 4, when the economy first exploded. No one wants to spend money or gold on an ABL for an item that they'll outgrow soon -- it's just not viable in today's economy or with current cash shop pricing. If they at least made the lower level (HoS/DL/ZS/maybe RT) gear BoE, it would go a long way for stopping that bottleneck that new players currently hit when trying to get past DL/ZS. More lower level gear would be on the AH for cheaper prices, and it would all around benefit everyone. Upgrading items clearly give more of a profit for a single piece of gear than a single ABL does -- honestly don't know how the marketing team doesn't see this.

Do I think it'll ever happen? Nope. But it should.

Lack of ABL is a problem but at some point it promotes unity. Let's say I have a guildie JoeBob who just hit L60. What does he need? New gear, really, since a lot of good gear drops in RT. If I am an endgamer, would I take JoeBob with me on RT run if gear were not bound? Probably not, I would run RT gold/plat/diamond and pass the stuff I get there for free or at discount price. But, as it is, I might say "Hey, guys, lets run regular or bronze couple times, JoeBob needs gear". Instead of sitting at entrance saying "Hey, guys, anything dropped for me", Joebob gets to participate in a run and learn how it works.

Do I want ABLs to be easier or cheaper? Absolutely, I am not the only one that has usable gear that I am not unbinding and passing to those who need it, mostly due to ABL high cost. Still, it is not one sided issue.

How the heck to Europeans work? They have no ABL sales (same as we dont) and no ABL at regular price? What do they do? That sounds sucky for them.

I know, I know... we are only supposed to do EU-US comparison when they have something we dont, so we get to whine about how life is so horribly unfair to us. Soooooorrrryyyy.

Quoted from "vfwiffo;535659"

How the heck to Europeans work? They have no ABL sales (same as we dont) and no ABL at regular price? What do they do? That sounds sucky for them.

Our 'sale' price of ABL is 99 diamonds and comes around every couple of months.

Usually, nobody can unbind gear so they stone it and sell the stats in AH.

Without ABLs, people will not be able to unbind old gear to sell in AH. Therefore, once you outgrow a gear, you're stuck with it and you're probably going to have to throw it in your bank / house chest and leave it there to collect dust while originally you could just sell that and make back half of what it costed you to make it.

My advice guys is, if you're like me and don't use your tokens use them all on ABLs today, if they merge the item shops then we have to wait for sales.

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;535573"

You mean BoE Mega. Bind on Equip, not Bind on Pickup (which is what it already is).

I just noticed my screwup thanks Mnk

I understand the need for bound gear in a f2p game

I think the regular bind lifter should do what the ABL does and the ABL completely and permanently remove the bind status as it is not very cheap.
Having to constantly remove the bind every single time an item swaps hand is completely ridiculous.

Quoted from "Bakken;535837"

I understand the need for bound gear in a f2p game

I think the regular bind lifter should do what the ABL does and the ABL completely and permanently remove the bind status as it is not very cheap.
Having to constantly remove the bind every single time an item swaps hand is completely ridiculous.

You only have to use ABL once on an item anyways if it's bound on pickup. Afterwards, each time you unbound - a normal bind lifter can be used. I don't think it can get much cheaper than that.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;535843"

You only have to use ABL once on an item anyways if it's bound on pickup. Afterwards, each time you unbound - a normal bind lifter can be used. I don't think it can get much cheaper than that.

Pay attention. They are saying Bind is gone forever...no more need for an abl or reg lifter again. We know how the game works lolz. Its not going to happen regardless. Sure, the community got together and got the GCD thing changed. GCD isnt in item-shop. Nothing we ever say here will matter to them. We may as well be discussing religion.

Quoted from "dexhunterz;535856"

Pay attention. They are saying Bind is gone forever...no more need for an abl or reg lifter again. We know how the game works lolz. Its not going to happen regardless. Sure, the community got together and got the GCD thing changed. GCD isnt in item-shop. Nothing we ever say here will matter to them. We may as well be discussing religion.

ABL = 100 diamonds
BL = 30 diamonds

Making a piece of gear unbound forever upon the first bound = RoM loses a lot of money on bind lifters and advanced bind lifters.

Use your brain; it'll NEVER happen.

Quoted from "regentego;535806"

My advice guys is, if you're like me and don't use your tokens use them all on ABLs today, if they merge the item shops then we have to wait for sales.

Sales? what sales? I havent seen a decent sale in like months

Quoted from "trakkien;535879"

Sales? what sales? I havent seen a decent sale in like months

While I agree 100% what I am saying is as of Tuesday one of two things will happen.

1. We we are given our own CS with slightly different prices then EU.

Or

2. We get EU item shop in which case we will no longer have ABLs available as a regular item.

Imagine you can't just get a ABL when you need one and you are forced to stock up when they go on sale, that is of course if you are into selling gear. Just saying, but I still stand by this and my other post, this is all smoke in mirrors, most people will pay far more in the end.

hopefully they prove ebil wrong in his other post, and things change for the better