Runes of Magic US / AU

Personally, I will not buy diamonds at full price- as a matter of fact, I only prefer to buy them at 110% or greater. What I get for my rl dollars isn't justifiable, but sometimes, it feels necessary to purchase them anyway just for the fun factor.

GameFEU's refusal to run double diamond sales certainly had an impact on me, and probably not the one they wanted to see-

I learned how to cover most of my in game costs using gold. More importantly, I learned how to make gold beyond the sole purpose of selling diamonds to get it.

I use stuff in the cash shop less and less as prices continue to rise. The game mechanics may make it so that I have to use cs items in order to progress- thing is, I can't do any real upgrades until the 75 cap comes out anyway.

The answer to your question, Ebil, is an honest no. I have no real desire to spend money under this pricing system.

This is how it should have been all along, not the nonsense that happened in chapter 4 with a diamond sale twice a week. That was ridiculous. At max it should be twice a month. Diamond sales should be exclusive; it's how it was done before and it worked best that way.

with what is left in the item shop i have no need or desire for. i was big on the perfume, abl's and declarations of neutrality. sooon. no mas dias for me and my 5 toons.

Quoted from "trav42073;538458"

with what is left in the item shop i have no need or desire for. i was big on the perfume, abl's and declarations of neutrality. sooon. no mas dias for me and my 5 toons.

Lol people seem to forget how it was before. People waited for diamond sales (like they're going to) and waited for special sales when the better stuff was sold in the item shop for a couple days (including ABL's and +12 jewels, like they're going to).

Quoted from "tmblake09;538457"

This is how it should have been all along, not the nonsense that happened in chapter 4 with a diamond sale twice a week. That was ridiculous. At max it should be twice a month. Diamond sales should be exclusive; it's how it was done before and it worked best that way.

Things like this are why they stopped giving us any sales, period.

The cash shop is there for one purpose: To make the game more convenient to play. The issue with this is that the game mechanics themselves REQUIRE cash shop items in order to progress beyond level 55.

A lack of diamond sales means less diamonds get into the economy. Less diamonds in the economy mean gear prices go up, as fewer people can afford to plus, stat, drill, and rune their gear. Less people running for gear means a dead game population (or basically what we're facing right now on most of the servers).

Is that really what you wanted to see, tmblake09? A game with a bunch of dead server populations?

Quoted from "LadyMacV;538464"

Things like this are why they stopped giving us any sales, period.

The cash shop is there for one purpose: To make the game more convenient to play. The issue with this is that the game mechanics themselves REQUIRE cash shop items in order to progress beyond level 55.

A lack of diamond sales means less diamonds get into the economy. Less diamonds in the economy mean gear prices go up, as fewer people can afford to plus, stat, drill, and rune their gear. Less people running for gear means a dead game population (or basically what we're facing right now on most of the servers).

Is that really what you wanted to see, tmblake09? A game with a bunch of dead server populations?

Except wrong. The exact opposite happened. When the diamonds sales were increased to twice a week and everything had a permanent place in the item shop, we saw diamonds go up to a whopping 30k-35k a piece on reni....from a mere 8-10k. People survived inbetween item shop sales and the game was not as item shop focused as it became in chapter 4.

Oh and btw, when things were normal in chapter 3, we had way more people running for gear because they actually had to get their own.

Quoted from "tmblake09;538466"

Except wrong. The exact opposite happened. When the diamonds sales were increased to twice a week and everything had a permanent place in the item shop, we saw diamonds go up to a whopping 30k-35k a piece on reni....from a mere 8-10k. People survived inbetween item shop sales and the game was not as item shop focused as it became in chapter 4.

Thus, you're more concerned about what you can sell or purchase diamonds for than you are for the overall state of the in-game economy.

Dead server populations are what is happening right now. It is directly related to people no longer being able to obtain gear as easily, thanks to a lack of diamond sales. The game became cash shop based and it still is very much so, the lack of sales are only going to continue to drive people out when they cannot obtain what they need in order to play.

I don't want to derail Regent's thread anymore, as I already stated my answer.

Quoted from "LadyMacV;538464"

Things like this are why they stopped giving us any sales, period.

The cash shop is there for one purpose: To make the game more convenient to play. The issue with this is that the game mechanics themselves REQUIRE cash shop items in order to progress beyond level 55.

A lack of diamond sales means less diamonds get into the economy. Less diamonds in the economy mean gear prices go up, as fewer people can afford to plus, stat, drill, and rune their gear. Less people running for gear means a dead game population (or basically what we're facing right now on most of the servers).

Is that really what you wanted to see, tmblake09? A game with a bunch of dead server populations?

But with ABL's not available, they are now making people run instances for gear instead of paying for it on the AH. At least that's my theory, but I think most people just come to siege then go off to some cooler game.

Quoted from "LadyMacV;538469"

Thus, you're more concerned about what you can sell or purchase diamonds for than you are for the overall state of the in-game economy.

Dead server populations are what is happening right now. It is directly related to people no longer being able to obtain gear as easily, thanks to a lack of diamond sales. The game became cash shop based and it still is very much so, the lack of sales are only going to continue to drive people out when they cannot obtain what they need in order to play.

I don't want to derail Regent's thread anymore, as I already stated my answer.

Let me explain it to you once again. When diamond sales were exclusive, and item shop sales were rare and worth it, the economy fluorished. MANY more people were playing. You seem to forget that what came right before the dead server populations right now is the way you want the item shop to be reversed to. That makes absolutely no sense because that was part of the cause of it. The reason servers are so dead is specifically because people could obtain gear so easily. They didn't have to try one bit in the slightest, they could simply buy the gear. That does not create any loyalty to the game or your toon at all. All of the current people can be driven out, that's what happened at the start of chapter 3. An entirely new playerbase joined and got used to how the game was, and the game fluorished because there weren't a bunch of old players complaining that they don't have their ABL's anymore and can't screw new players over by shafting them for gear.

People had to get out and get their own gear, or catch a rare time when there was an ABL sale and some good gear got put into the auction house to buy. People had to party, instead of buying super twinked out gear and soloing the game up until level 65.

Quoted from "aglupus;538470"

But with ABL's not available, they are now making people run instances for gear instead of paying for it on the AH. At least that's my theory, but I think most people just come to siege then go off to some cooler game.

Exactly, but this logic seems to be escaping most of the population of RoM. They simply see it as: "Me no get ABL no more. Me no buy diamonds. Me no happy. BAM!"

Quoted from "aglupus;538470"

But with ABL's not available, they are now making people run instances for gear instead of paying for it on the AH. At least that's my theory, but I think most people just come to siege then go off to some cooler game.

Yes. They're essentially pushing out everyone who doesn't have time to run the instance. People like Regent. It isn't right.

Quoted from "LadyMacV;538473"

Yes. They're essentially pushing out everyone who doesn't have time to run the instance. People like Regent. It isn't right.

LOL if you don't have time to run the instance then you shouldn't be buying the gear from the instance in the first place, that kind of defeats the point of playing. Oh, you don't have time to play the game? Here, buy the gear so you can not play the game some more.

If you don't have time to play the game and run instances, why are you buying gear anyways? Because you won't have time to run instances with the gear you just bought anyways.

It's not that you don't have time, it's that you don't want to SPEND the time to get the gear. There is no rush. End-game will wait; it's always being extended and you'll always have something to strive for.

People who are currently end-game and who have been around actually had to play the way it was before and get their own stuff, without being able to buy it because they "didn't have enough time."

Quoted from "tmblake09;538471"

Let me explain it to you once again. When diamond sales were exclusive, and item shop sales were rare and worth it, the economy fluorished. MANY more people were playing. You seem to forget that what came right before the dead server populations right now is the way you want the item shop to be reversed to. That makes absolutely no sense because that was part of the cause of it. The reason servers are so dead is specifically because people could obtain gear so easily.

Try telling that to the level 55 who just finished questing, and whose guild can no longer afford to run him through the instances he needs. Tell it to the level 72 whose guild mates dropped like flies when FEU increased their prices beyond what was reasonable for a game. Tell it to the incoming player who looks at the gear treadmill, sees what it will cost in order to gear up, and runs screaming to another MMO because he won't be able to run the content he wants to without spending a lifetime on the game (which he doesn't have) or a substantial part of his paycheck.

The content surpassed the players' ability to run for gear without diamond buyers. It can't go back the other way without a complete reversal of the way game mechanics work (or a simple band-aid bind on equip solution to the lack of gear).

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They didn't have to try one bit in the slightest, they could simply buy the gear. That does not create any loyalty to the game or your toon at all. All of the current people can be driven out, that's what happened at the start of chapter 3. An entirely new playerbase joined and got used to how the game was, and the game fluorished because there weren't a bunch of old players complaining that they don't have their ABL's anymore and can't screw new players over by shafting them for gear.

There are some on Reni who have been there since Beta. They don't like the way GameFEU has been managing their sales any more now than they did in chapter 3's scout-a-palooza.

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People had to get out and get their own gear, or catch a rare time when there was an ABL sale and some good gear got put into the auction house to buy. People had to party, instead of buying super twinked out gear and soloing the game up until level 65.

How are they expected to run, if as you say, everyone can just leave and there will be no issue?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Quoted from "LadyMacV;538475"

How are they expected to run, if as you say, everyone can just leave and there will be no issue?

That makes no sense whatsoever.

I said the old people can leave and the new playerbase can be the one that makes the game what it should be. Not a bunch of people wallowing in the fact that they can't get what they want when they want without getting it themselves, but a bunch of people willing to work for their own stuff.

Quoted from "regentego;538479"

TMblake with all due respect I run a 3.5 million dollar company, my time is very little, I siege, my gear is built for siege. To say I shouldn't play the game isn't your place.

Now let me correct you as to "the way it was" before chapter 3. We had dirty stats, we had T4 gear, we had T7 weapons, the highest plus was 6. Puris were not used or needed. A green 40 Stam was an awesome drop. Oh and we could use snoop to teleport everywhere. Back then 500 diamonds would plus ALL your gear.

Don't act like you were here and not state the facts. Its a completely different game.

I never once said I was here before Chapter 3 I said I wanted it to go back to the way it was before in chapter 3.

Quoted from "tmblake09;538476"

I said the old people can leave and the new playerbase can be the one that makes the game what it should be. Not a bunch of people wallowing in the fact that they can't get what they want when they want without getting it themselves, but a bunch of people willing to work for their own stuff.

I'm not sure why you're correlating players who use diamonds with those who want to wallow in not being able to get what they want when they want it.

I worked my ass off for the tp I earned on my character, even with using daily resets. I logged in and used every F2P method I could to get my character to a point where she could run all the content and do it well. I enjoyed helping my friends progress their own characters so that they could run it too.

Work has its place, but the majority of it comes from working with a group of friends to clear content. It should not lie in not being able to obtain the gear necessary to run another instance or two thanks to nobody having the ability to do so. Across the board, from the newbie to the old, experienced player, lack of diamond sales are doing nothing but making the content unplayable.

Quoted from "LadyMacV;538484"

Work has its place, but the majority of it comes from working with a group of friends to clear content. It should not lie in not being able to obtain the gear necessary to run another instance or two thanks to nobody having the ability to do so. Across the board, from the newbie to the old, experienced player, lack of diamond sales are doing nothing but making the content unplayable.

You are right. The changes frogster is making now should have been done a long time ago. Doing it now is just too little too late and messing up what we already have going. If we don't get new players into the game to get things moving for people things will come to a standstill until they are fixed.