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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 1:51pm

Ruby Costs are too high

So I have a dwarve I have been working hard on, I'm very close to level 55 so I thought I would make a basic T7 +6 55 DL staff. Well I got to +4 in 8 tries, then did what I always do, go to the ruby shop for 2 perfects. Much to my surprise to get to +6 is going to cost me over 200 rubies! Sorry Frogster but with your new CS and sales not giving rubies this makes plussing very out of reach. Don't bring in new classes and tie their hands, you want dwarves to be able to catch up, not just the new alt.

Some ruby costs I can live with such as bankspace, 5 rubies extra, fine Scrooge Mcfrogster! But even level 50 plussers are 100 rubies!

Rubies are the bonus you get for being a loyal paying player, don't take that bonus and inflate the hell out of it in hopes that we buy more diamonds. These ruby prices are what I consider taking advantage of the people who have supported you. I bought a daily reset for 39 diamonds and only got ONE ruby! I just don't get why you would promote NEW CLASSES! Then tie their hands to the point all they can afford is +4 gear.

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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 3:54pm

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So I have a dwarve I have been working hard on, I'm very close to level 55 so I thought I would make a basic T7 +6 55 DL staff. Well I got to +4 in 8 tries, then did what I always do, go to the ruby shop for 2 perfects. Much to my surprise to get to +6 is going to cost me over 200 rubies! Sorry Frogster but with your new CS and sales not giving rubies this makes plussing very out of reach. Don't bring in new classes and tie their hands, you want dwarves to be able to catch up, not just the new alt.

Some ruby costs I can live with such as bankspace, 5 rubies extra, fine Scrooge Mcfrogster! But even level 50 plussers are 100 rubies!

Rubies are the bonus you get for being a loyal paying player, don't take that bonus and inflate the hell out of it in hopes that we buy more diamonds. These ruby prices are what I consider taking advantage of the people who have supported you. I bought a daily reset for 39 diamonds and only got ONE ruby! I just don't get why you would promote NEW CLASSES! Then tie their hands to the point all they can afford is +4 gear.


Rubies are one of the most useful items in runes of magic. It's why they upped the difficulty level of receiving them, along with the cost of a lot of the more useful items in the item shop.

I don't like it either, and am surprised to see so few people expressing feedback on it. Of course, that may be due to the fact that a huge chunk of their paying customers left when the repricing strategy was implemented.
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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 4:43pm

Yes, the new deal with rubies stinks! Nice way to treat the people that actually support this game with cash. I now intend spending far less.
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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 4:52pm

Honestly, I don't see the reasoning behind this move. They take away rubies from ptokens and from sale items, nerf the ruby gain on all CS items, and hike up the prices in the ruby shop. If they're trying to encourage people to pay more, they're doing it wrong. If I was still buying diamonds, I'd feel ripped off for the miniscule amount of rubies you get per purchase now.

Rubies were supposed to give paying players a little freebie here and there. Now they're ridiculously hard to come by, which makes it unreasonable that there are still CS items only obtainable in the ruby shop.

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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 4:58pm

I have slightly mixed feelings about the ruby changes I've noticed. Prices increased in the IS, amount of rubies per purchase and from what items decreased, and rate per gold when trading is increasing incredibly quickly.

What I do like is that they're getting more expensive to buy with gold. Imo someone who has never bought any diamonds and who will never pay Frogster anything, does not deserve to get rubies with gold for cheap. Rubies are supposed to be Frogster's way of saying thank you to the paying customers, so if you aren't a paying customer then probably you should be paying more than the rate of diamonds for rubies.

What I don't like is that one of the ONLY ways Frogster gives back to paying customers is rubies, and now they have skewed it so that it's more of an "F You!" than a "Thank you!" I truly believe that if the rate of diamonds per dollar is going to be crap, and if the IS is going to be expensive like it is, then the LEAST Frogster could do is cut their customers some slack in the ruby department. I'm seriously thinking that Frogster hates people that pay to play RoM...because all of their sales decisions show it. Not cool.

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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 6:31pm

It is wrong that there are things in the ruby shop that you can't get anywhere else. In my opinion the ruby shop should be an extra for the paying players, not something that is required to be used. Perfect's should be available for dias just like normal jewels are, just more expensive. The ruby shop should be really cheap OR the ruby bonus on diamond items needs to be drastically increased.
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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 6:53pm

This situation cannot last.

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Thursday, June 28th 2012, 9:39pm

Hey there, folks.

Thank you for the feedback in this thread so far.

Please, however, keep it constructive and avoid trolling or posts designed to attack Frogster the company or its staff. I've already had to remove several posts that violate the forum rules.

I understand that item-shop topics always get people a little heated and bring out some very passionate posts, but it's possible to express that without crossing over into anger.

I like seeing feedback and discussions - Please keep them within the forum rules so this thread can continue.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 2:41am

Perf Jewels for the lowbies to plus their lowbie Vahtos set are now 500% of their last-month-cost.

Are they TRYING to discourage the new players from buying anything from the Item Shop?

[is that constructive enough?]

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 2:46am

Ultimately I don't believe people have become aware of just how much this will affect progression to endgame. Also this is a situation where if you don't buy diamonds then you don't have skin in the game, that is until the price of rubies exceeds diamonds.

I think it is unfair to be penalized for buying sales items, if you are a diamond seller your buyers want the sales. So you sell $100 worth of diamonds on a big ABL sale and have no rubies to show for it.

Most F2Ps have a reward system for paying players, we always looked at rubies as that little extra we get, now on a thousand diamonds we may end up with 50 rubies, and in addition to that the price of ruby items have increased exponentially, yes 300% in some cases.

In my three years of paying and playing RoM I cannot remember getting an item to +6 with only normal jewels. So what are the unintended consequences? New players seeking to farm their own gear will be paying a premium to be able to get to +6. Paying players such as myself feel far less appreciated. And I am going to have to put a pause on my dwarf because I don't have the 4700 rubies needed to create sufficient gear to run endgame.

Alternatively I could buy someone's old gear but then they may think twice about selling due to the challenge of plussing new gear. So really don't be shocked if rubies do go to 100k per.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 2:49am

Like borella said, ruby shop should be a reward to players who are the buying diamonds . It should have "good priced" items and a lot more selection in its inventory list.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 7:45am

Simple fix, remove the gifting function for ruby's :P

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 8:13am

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Simple fix, remove the gifting function for ruby's :P

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Yeah, since we now get so few, may as well just remove what little value they have left..
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 11:22am

Well this way the diamond buyers can say "If u want rubys then go out and buy your own diamonds." LOL This way Froggy gets more diamond sales. Lets also make a suggestion to put a few items that are a must have in the Ruby shop only, this will force ppl to buy diamonds. I think i should work for froggys sales dept :P LOL
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 11:41am

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Well this way the diamond buyers can say "If u want rubys then go out and buy your own diamonds." LOL This way Froggy gets more diamond sales. Lets also make a suggestion to put a few items that are a must have in the Ruby shop only, this will force ppl to buy diamonds. I think i should work for froggys sales dept :P LOL


Good idea! How do you think perfect plussing jewels would go?
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 7:02pm

I just don't see any insentive to buying diamonds anymore. I feel like the diamond buys are getting dumped on by FEU. I know that because of the recent actions taken by FEU i will not be purchasing anymore diamonds until I SEE an improvement in the sales team. I deal in sales and if i ever pulled stunts like this where i'm now losing the company money i'd be fired on the spot. So FEU please just finally listen to the play base because i do enjoy playing this game but i'm seeing myself less and less playing do to your actions.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 7:42pm

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Ultimately I don't believe people have become aware of just how much this will affect progression to endgame. Also this is a situation where if you don't buy diamonds then you don't have skin in the game, that is until the price of rubies exceeds diamonds.

I think it is unfair to be penalized for buying sales items, if you are a diamond seller your buyers want the sales. So you sell $100 worth of diamonds on a big ABL sale and have no rubies to show for it.

Most F2Ps have a reward system for paying players, we always looked at rubies as that little extra we get, now on a thousand diamonds we may end up with 50 rubies, and in addition to that the price of ruby items have increased exponentially, yes 300% in some cases.

In my three years of paying and playing RoM I cannot remember getting an item to +6 with only normal jewels. So what are the unintended consequences? New players seeking to farm their own gear will be paying a premium to be able to get to +6. Paying players such as myself feel far less appreciated. And I am going to have to put a pause on my dwarf because I don't have the 4700 rubies needed to create sufficient gear to run endgame.

Alternatively I could buy someone's old gear but then they may think twice about selling due to the challenge of plussing new gear. So really don't be shocked if rubies do go to 100k per.


I clearly see Rubies going to that type of price.

I can see the Smoke n Mirrors tactic they have used with the Ruby shop....for instance they did lower the costs of the overall Ruby shop as in nothing is over 300 Rubies( vanity item = Pets ). Yet they raised the costs on the only needed item from the Ruby shop because I think we all are aware of the Critical Failure rate we get with regular plussing gems when going from Plus 5 to Plus 6( something like 80% critical failure rate/1% success rate/19% failure rate ).

Before I think the Mighty Phoenix wings were set at like 5000 Rubies....now only 150. But if you factor in what the cost is now to obtain 150 rubies they are no less expensive.

It looks like a rough conversion is something like 10 diamonds = 1 ruby and this has to be done now at full price so to obtain one plussing gem you have to spend 10USD....the biggest bonus is 80 rubies at an item that costs 249 diamonds. So factor that in to how much it will cost to just plus 1 an entire set of gear ( Jewelry/Weapon/Armor )

So say goodbye to another avenue for Free to play players.

My mistake the best ruby bonus is buying the Exp/Tp Packages they are almost 1 diamond for 1 Ruby and at least on an item you should always be able to use.

Exp/Tp Packages are 169 diamonds = 150 rubies.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 7:52pm

While I agree that the ruby shop is super overpriced and it needs to be LOWERED from what it it, preferably to even less than it was before, I think you guys are forgetting something.

The ruby shop is NOT the only way to get perfect jewels.

Most of the time when packages of advanced jewels or enhanced jewels are sold, they will also come with a perfect.
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Friday, June 29th 2012, 8:03pm

I'll tell you what it means to me....nothing gets taken over +4.

No need to buy those +7-12 jewels anymore, cause i cannot afford perfects to go to +6. and +16, well, yeah..why we even talking about it.

"Most of the time when packages of advanced jewels or enhanced jewels are sold, they will also come with a perfect. "

Funny, I seemed to have missed that in the recent sale of the +7-12 jewels.

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Friday, June 29th 2012, 8:06pm

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I'll tell you what it means to me....nothing gets taken over +4.

No need to buy those +7-12 jewels anymore, cause i cannot afford perfects to go to +6. and +16, well, yeah..why we even talking about it.

"Most of the time when packages of advanced jewels or enhanced jewels are sold, they will also come with a perfect. "

Funny, I seemed to have missed that in the recent sale of the +7-12 jewels.


Those weren't packages though. They were just jewels. Can't really expect much considering it was the first time they've ever been sold.

Alot of the time they'll sell packages that include perfects.
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