Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "wenwenni;543927"

So you get absolutely no happiness from jewels succeeding, meaning that if a piece of gear you had went from +0 to +16, that doesn't increase your happiness in the least bit? Then why are you paying good money for the jewels, sir?

That's just it...I haven't bought dias since "the Mighty Shield" patch.....and I don't intend to buy them ever again. I'm done paying for this game it's too expensive...it's like junking a car that in beyond worth repairing.

Paying for +ing gems is simple economics. You pay an amount=the probability of success x the amount of happiness you get from that success. In this case, you are paying dias (aka real money) for the probability of success of the jewel multiplied by the amount of happiness you would get if the jewel was in fact successful.


You have no choice but to be happy when they don't fail because they fail so often......it's more of a feeling of relief than happiness for me.

My point was that it shouldn't matter if you are paying real money for some virtual item, because that virtual item provides you some level of happiness, and that is why you are willing to pay real money for it. The only difference with +ing jewels is that the probability of success is not 100%, but you still get some level of happiness if it does succeed. The left side of the equation must be equal to the right, so because the probability of success is not 100%, the amount you pay will also go down.


Because they don't always offer "perfect gems' and many of use do use two or even 3 perfects from the ruby shop.

In your example with the car part, let's say you pay $100 for it and it is guaranteed to succeed. If the speed shop tells you there is only a 50% chance that it will make your car perform better, then you will only be willing to pay $50 for it.

There is no chance....it's either a better part or it isn't. The part has a specific increase in durability or horsepower and that is what you are paying for. There are also parts that are made to improve the appearance of the car you buy these "fluff" items based on your preference.....you pay the price if you really want them.

However, this is not taking into account that there is a chance that the car part will actually make you worse off (ie lower the level of the piece of gear). Taking this into account would lead to a more complex equation, but the concept is the same. The higher the probability of you being worse off, the lower you would pay for the car part.

There is no chance the part will make you worse off.......You buy a part to either repair broken parts or to enhance the car. The part is either the right part or it isn't, if you buy a part that isn't the correct one it won't fit. So are you saying we are being sold the wrong parts? If I get a wrong part I take it back and get the right part....rather simple.

My point is that if you want all jewels to be perfect (no failure), then the price would also go up SUBSTANTIALLY. You're not really better off either way. But if you are willing to pay a lot more to eliminate the risk (which most people are, see the economic concept of risk-aversion if interested), then by all means ask for perfect jewels to be put in the dia shop.


Like I said "Perfect gems" are not always available like some parts aren't so you go to another speed shop a or parts store or even a wrecking yard. That is the gamble in car parts and you pay next to nothing for used parts in a wrecking yard and usually only go there because the parts are no longer made. So with that in mind are +ing gems from a RoM wrecking yard...and if so why are we paying new part prices?

Quoted from "Ravesden;543974"

At this point, the main problem I see with the item shop right now is the lack of ruby bonuses from sales items. I'd really like a pink hat consolation as to why spending 2k diamonds yields 0 ruby return?

Quoted from "vfwiffo;543984"

I presume you mean no rubies on sales deal, right? That is kinda standard. Usually discounts go with "one promotion per purchase" or "you are only getting that free fried rice with your $20 purchase if you are not already buying discounted lunch specials".

Now, as a consumer, I love stacking discounts, sure. I made many thousands of dollars stacking the promotions not meant to be stacked. But, that was about 7-8 years ago. Most retailers caught onto that scam now and slap down those of us who try to get creative.

Quoted from "GarryL;543930"

So many economists! Who needs them! I certainly don't need an economist to explain why I'm not being had!

It's simple, cash shop prices are to high! We are being had! Plussing jewels fail! We are being had! Diamonds are overpriced! We are being had!

Quoted from "regentego;544009"

But that's not the standard we are used. We have always been given rubies with all purchases. Not to mention the massive ruby increase in prices. You simply can't justify it with Chinese food analogies.

Quoted from "vfwiffo;543984"

I presume you mean no rubies on sales deal, right? That is kinda standard. Usually discounts go with "one promotion per purchase" or "you are only getting that free fried rice with your $20 purchase if you are not already buying discounted lunch specials".

Now, as a consumer, I love stacking discounts, sure. I made many thousands of dollars stacking the promotions not meant to be stacked. But, that was about 7-8 years ago. Most retailers caught onto that scam now and slap down those of us who try to get creative.

Quoted from "Ravesden;544057"

Usually when I hear a crock, its one ear out the other.

Profanity removed from quoted message--forum rule 2(a)

What you just said was utterly stupid and in no way justifies A) Frogster eliminating ruby bonus from sales. B) The price increase concerning the ruby shop.

Yeah, its a business, yeah, they need to make a profit, but when you alienate your players by placing ruby restrictions and skyrocketing the price - you sure as hell are going to lose business.

Quoted from "regentego;544009"

But that's not the standard we are used. We have always been given rubies with all purchases. Not to mention the massive ruby increase in prices. You simply can't justify it with Chinese food analogies.

Quoted from "vfwiffo;544064"

Not one of your better responses. Try again, please.



Yeah, we used to get two discounts - one in lower diamond prices, one in secondary currency. Now we get one. It is a flatter cost/discount policy, which is a lot more common these days. Analogy with electronics stores, where I used to be able to get as much as 80-85% discount, would be more apt, but most people are not familiar with the methods.

And, of course, I don't expect any consumer-side response on what is essentially a price increase to be supportive. Just a little less irrational than most people have been.

Quoted from "regentego;544065"

Yeah electronic store, best but, laying off thousands closing stores, because newegg and amazon offer massive discounts, yet have loyal shoppers like me. No need for me to go to best buy when I pay half on newegg.

The days of just expecting to survive on name branding are over, shoppers are smarter with their money and expect more. Frogster basically slapped every paying customer in the face, paying players should be rewarded not restricted.