Runes of Magic US / AU

A lot have been asking for the boss crit resist values..i figured i would post an example or two and show how they're found and why they, and the other parameters, really arent tremendously useful.

I wont post how or where to find any tools to open and parse the fdb files, so dont ask..srry, rules is rules.

so..it all runs off a large relational database (the data or strings.fdb)..meaning there's a ton of tables and unique identifiers link the tables in some overall schema runewaker liked. the thing to keep in mind is that to keep complexity down since more than one person is/has created and worked on it for runewaker...they generally keep identifiers the same.

the npcobject table has most of the parameters..pattack, hp, crit resists etc. but very few are labeled. some are easy to figure out. here's last boss from Aeternal Circle in easy and normal versions, courtesy of Yoman the man for the easy to read format, so you can find the easier values if you want to compile all the data yourself. the second set of data is from the armorobject table we will use in a second to find the crit resists:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?…Y0E&output=html

so to figure things out that aren't labeled or mislabeled, take something you know and use it find out things you dont know, or make educated guesses and start all over. we want the crit resists..so what do we know that has crit resist on it? hmm..pvp gear from obsidian stronghold. so moving over to the armour table we take a piece with magical crit resist on it and look how the known number is entered and labeled.

so lets use the druid set for no reason http://www.runesdatabase.com/itemset/610…e-of-the-cavern. magic crit resist is on the gloves, item # 227049 and its 300. from the armorobject table i see only one value = 300 in this specific glove's row. all the way down at column eqtype3value, column BB in the above spreadsheet. under eqtype3 (which we can assume is the identifier for the eqtype3value column) it says 183.

yay, lets check the npcobject table for any 183's..hopefully with some column header similarity. and voila..only certain mobs seem to have anything with 183..and it's always located in the column group: eqextype and the corresponding values are in eqextypevalue. sorta simliar...bosses sure seem to have it. do the same for phys crit resist and you find it's identifier is 182. so using those identifiers Da'dalodin's crit resist values are: 27% for magic, 47% for physical.

since i suck at explaining stuffs..just use the values i gave as a fail guide i guess

these values arent super useful. crit resist cant be overcome easily (warlock mage will be interesting)...but the major reason is theres a lot of other parameters in that area and other places. dmg absorption, parry piercing, pdef of shield ignore, overcoming dodge etc etc.

as i said elsewhere..if a boss has 75k pattack so you think X amount of pdef makes you a perfect tank you may be in for some surprises. the values are also not static depending on the luascript of the fight mechanics and theres a ton of tables.

just some info from when i was bored. If i get time i will compile the numbers in a nice, easy to read spreadsheet

lmao..you should have seen the unedited version before i took out all the stuff on reversing, lua crawling from ID to ID, de-obfuscating some weird decimal / 33 (Oo wtf?) ->binary->hex stuff, plus the complete function dump with stuff i swear must be from a pre-rom game that didnt make it, or maybe mutated into this sterling piece of microtransaction MMO art. ;p

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[COLOR=black !important]Holy Crap! This post is almost as long as one Fan might make. [/COLOR]

feb 2009, 2 posts and this...the second post, is to troll me?

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(2 liter of wild turkey 101 half gone & a godawful cigar they musta rolled from cockroach wings and hooker spit, maybe it was that..idk <shrug>)

and compared to the notorious james joyce-dreith's typical steaming load of prose mine tis only a babe, quite fitting turn of phrase borella.

damn i got the munchies nomnomnomnom

oh, you missed the main statement of research truth oh mighty matty m/k..

"Research is being done because someone paid me and i have to spend my budget entirely before the NIH fiscal year ends, or i dont get *insert scatalogical reference here* next year." spend even if i have to buy $15k toilets and .454 Casull magnums to punish modems that failed me

it looks like we have the crit equation correct checking out some data collected..i posted it around somewhere but it's same as was posted and figured out by others on eu side. looks like the crit resist comes into play after/outside of the crit equation. so say the random # generator says you score a crit, based on your crit rate...the boss then has its chance to resist that crit.

that way you're still capable of having 0% crit rate for a fight up to a 100%. it's random # generator based so we can assume a normal distribution. the kurtosis of the distribution from the small amount of data i've collected so far is a bit low. so we tend to fall between 30% and 70% with being outside that a bit uncommon..but not an actual outlier. but may just be too small a sample size. was writing an addon to simply collect crit data, target level and your level...but been busy not having power/water for 9 days in a @#$%^ heatwave.

this is all still guesswork, hell the crit resist may not be percent based and a raw number...and havent even thought yet much on how the crit resist lowering debuff will come into play. other than having a midget in your party.

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[COLOR=black !important]So, what am I missing? Why would I not just go to "those darn rom-welten guys are too freaking good at what they do" recently added web page on mob/bosses values and find that out? [/COLOR]

lol figured obvious coincidental timing on posting the data was obvious..oops

we've been working on this for a long long time and without enough alcohol support


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paznub said:
crit equation is basically:

take the mob's level and multiply it by 30, then add 300. ( 30 * moblevel +300 ) = c
subtract result from your crit raw number, then divide by whichever is higher..c from above or your raw number.
add 1 then divide by 2 to get your crit chance.

	Source code
1 2 3 4 5	k = ur crit raw number c = 30*mL+300 max = which is higher k or c chance = ((k-c)/max) + 1.0) / 2 critChance = chance*100

ps..mob resist chance for magic attacks is pretty interesting. with the help Katrinna, of one of my priesties (with entirely too much mdef), we found some cool stuff. accuracy...no fricken clue. but resist chance seems to be strongly associated with the difference between target mdef and your mattack. having mattack 50% of the target's mdef or lower = like a third higher resist chance.

way too early to say anything definitive, but that was the trend we saw as she shrank my epeen to nothingness then laughed at it flaccidly

holiday inn select last night :/ my IQ is an astonishing 62

and im currently sober <shiver>

yea mavoc and duppy were amazing...as is peryl. especially peryl considering he still is so available even though he no longer plays rom.

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[COLOR=black !important]Actually, Paz- I insist that if you do write that crit addon, that you name it Paz's Epeen Deflator. Or maybe Paz's Mage Epeen Deflator- god knows it won't deflate a rogue. [/COLOR]

lmao..kk. but of course im adding my updated anti-fandreith targeting addon to it as an accesory. and considering for like krolin the magic crit resist is half that of the physical i dont think mages will feel too bad.

(not that it matters...physical classes do an epic asston more hits per fight than mages with our uber complex rotation. so its kind of even i imagine.)

i will add it to the script that shows a my crit rate versus whatever i'm targeting as a popup.


slightly higher res version: http://www.mediafire.com/i/?pltflcjicnma1jr

that pic i posted has it..but i havent added an array to get the targets resist value yet. crappy res pic i posted though, i change later.

no theyre correct...it's hard to compare melee to magic really. the sheer number of attacks melee classes do in even short burn fights makes our ~12 flames too small of a sample. but youre right, melees tend to crit maybe 10% more on average if you look at like an entire week of runs..but melee crit dmg appears to be calculated differently from magical. so again it's hard to make a fair comparison. im just glad we're not a danger to parties like in ch3 :p