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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 6:51am

Quoted from "Borella;546941"

P/S is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING like Scouts were in chapter 3. In chapter 3, everyone you saw in siege war was a Scout/something. And it wasn't just that scouts were using one button, they were using one button and bypassing pdef, and hitting everyone for their full damage and exactly the same.

You should know this.. seeing as you've been playing for a long time.

Also.. alot of /s classes that are "dps" don't tier their bow. Wdn/s, stat stick. W/s, stat stick. R/s, stat stick.

And in PvE iceblade isn't even best for dps.. speed potting up and spamming rising tide is, just like mages speed potting up and using flame, although you'll never do anywhere near the same damage as other dps classes.


actually, i was GOING to tier my bow, but now if i want a range damage skill, i just macro combo throw :o.

Again, the problem with ice blade is its spammability. A cd would have to be balanced with a damage increase. A better solution would be to make it actually consume some mana, or to make it focus based.

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:01am

Haven't we all learned this week that only the that no one complains about are what gets nerfed. I mean remember all those "Wd has too much def, nerf them" threads there were, yeah me neither.

If anything, complaining about this might make the devs buff up the p/s class, kinda like how they made throw/combo throw super effective for no apparent reason.
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:03am

Next patch, iceblade now does 50% more damage and ice sickles splinter off the target and hit 5 nearby enemies
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:06am

Quoted from "regentego;546942"

Well no kidding cause you're supposed to be healing the DPS classes!


The comment is basically the rom equivalent of, "get back in the kitchen woman and make me a sandwich!"
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:12am

Quoted from "Quaffy2;546951"

The comment is basically the rom equivalent of, "get back in the kitchen woman and make me a sandwich!"


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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:14am

Quoted from "Quaffy2;546951"

The comment is basically the rom equivalent of, "get back in the kitchen woman and make me a sandwich!"


He's still waiting for that sandwich

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:15am

Quoted from "regentego;546942"

k....let me see... You will never...do...near...damage...of...DPS...classes...Well no kidding cause you're supposed to be healing the DPS classes!

aww, someones epeen got hurt cus he got killed by a priest =( Shouldn't have been out of hide to let that priest ice blade you.

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:38am

Quoted from "Borella;546941"

P/S is NOTHING, I repeat, NOTHING like Scouts were in chapter 3. In chapter 3, everyone you saw in siege war was a Scout/something. And it wasn't just that scouts were using one button, they were using one button and bypassing pdef, and hitting everyone for their full damage and exactly the same.

You should know this.. seeing as you've been playing for a long time.

Also.. alot of /s classes that are "dps" don't tier their bow. Wdn/s, stat stick. W/s, stat stick. R/s, stat stick.

And in PvE iceblade isn't even best for dps.. speed potting up and spamming rising tide is, just like mages speed potting up and using flame, although you'll never do anywhere near the same damage as other dps classes.


You are correct I have been a player for a long time.....I was in siege durring Ch3. Oddly enough I don't have Scout in my toon and have not played a scout in siege ever. Also Bows are not an Off-hand weapon but you can treat them as one. Curently knight is the only class that has no real DPS option and every time Knights ask or mention more DPS they get the "get back in the kitchen and make me a sammich" you are a tank not a DPS reply. Knights have been told over and over that they are a "Spec Class" well last time I checked so are Priests.....come join us knights in the kitchen plz, we have alot of sammiches to make and the orders are stacking up.:p Yes the Wardens have helped out some and might be leaving again but we could use some more help in the kitchen....:D
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 11:07am

Quoted from "squirrlee;546958"

:p Yes the Wardens have helped out some and might be leaving again but we could use some more help in the kitchen....:D

Yeah bro, we're already there, other than wd/w and maybe wd/s the rest of us are now in the social security line looking for a new job after this last braindead fiasco of a patch.....so I might as well just stay in your kitchen right? I get fed there don't I? Cause I sure ain't making any progress elsewhere....

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 2:44pm

Quoted from "regentego;546940"

First I'm a r/s who can kill p/s just fine, ask Quaffy, but im still allowed to have an opinion, next I don't use any DIYCE, not my thing I like to be in control.

Third you must be bi-polar cause I have seen you rant at gameforge then Dio posts and you turn into a little girl "Oh Dio thank you so much, I love your shoes, can I rub your feet for you, I love your hair Dio, can I brush it for you" No matter how upset you were if Dio posts you turn into puddy.

Ebi, you must be off your meds again, give credit where credit is due. You are here in the forums just so people respond to what you have to say, cause in real life you must have an opinion on everything and think you are always right. So you have no friends to talk to. I PM Dio also and it's not always to say nice things, but at least she tries to get things done for the game.

So next time you want to make assumptions check with Dio first! Alot of people voted, but not many posted cause the p/s crew are using mud slinging and bullying people, OP siege classes do that you know, they don't want to lose their one button wonder class. If anyone NEEDS to l2p its p/s, if the sum of your siege experience is Iceblade then I would just quit, go play Streetfighter II, no wait that required combos. That's too complex for a p/s...

R/s hide, ss,lb,WA,Va, shot, throat attack, substitute, evasion, energy their for those p/k, escape. Yeah I use all those in siege, its a hell of alot more then hide/low blow, but then again I'll be #1-2 in kills on both sides. I've been rogue since chapter one, never switched, most rogues jump out of hide, kill one person then get killed, I'll take three with me before I go.

Yep proves that you can't play another class , since you always press the same buttons or else if you changed them, you would be confused. At least you are honest about not being able to play another class or being creative. With all the posts you make and QQ'uing about everything, just quit the game and let us have fun and talk about stuff that could help the game.

There are some classes i struggle against like s/k, Krahlun(spelling) is amazing and just owns me but I don't say "Nerf s/k" because he is a master of his class, he repel arrows, and just unleashes on me. But in comparison most s/k are not him, like tonight i leveled them, BUT all well geared p/s are instant one hit wonder spam monkeys. And what do they say..."stack more mdef" and after siege they switch back to m/p.

So you like calling people stupid using words that won't get you banned from the forums? Funny how people learned to play another class that can kill you easily, since all you have is Dex,PATK, yep get MDEF, PDEF or you will get killed in siege. Stop QQ'uing about this and go find real friends outside of the virtual world. All you do is QQ about this.

A fail rogue will always blow his wad to early, but a p/s just sits there, target IB IB IB, next.


Talking about personal experience Ebi?? It seems to happen when you meet my P/S friend ;-) You just can't hold up to him.

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 2:51pm

Quoted from "squirrlee;546923"

Why would a P/s need DYICE they only need one button?


I was talking about rogues , Squirrlee ;-) We had kids who had DYICE and one day the coding wasn't working and they couldn't play their character at all without it. Was funny as hell, they didn't even know what to do and had to use the action bar and were confused, loll.rofl

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 6:51pm

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I was talking about rogues , Squirrlee ;-) We had kids who had DYICE and one day the coding wasn't working and they couldn't play their character at all without it. Was funny as hell, they didn't even know what to do and had to use the action bar and were confused, loll.rofl


Yes I was there durring the No Macro attempt RW/FA had. Yes I had a Macro and you know what, I went back to the action bar and never went back to the macro after they were re-activated. Yes there were and still are a large amount of players that use that crutch but that's up to them. Many say the game requires no skill...well if you have a macro there is no skill needed you just tap 1 or two buttons and watch what happens. Although I have no idea why these people have issues watching their threat meter.....Ohhhh that's right they are watching their DPS meter.

P/s is like having a Macro it's a 2 botton class......Tab target....IB..IB..IB..IB...Repeat. Reminds me of Ch3 Scouts, Target... Combo Shot....Shot...Shot...Shot...Repeat, No Macro needed.

I would love to have a Weapon Mastery and a Damage boost to Holy Strike then I could Target....HS..HS..HS...Repeat.;)
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 6:58pm

Quoted from "refugee;546721"

I've mentioned that several times. IB range 200, WA range 225, similar damage when geared the same.

By my calculations there will be 20 posts stating how you will run out of focus with wind arrow after a few shots, which seems to be extremely important even though you will only need 3 or 4 wind arrows to take a P/s down.

The rule is that you're supposed to attack a guard or the ballons till you only have 10 focus left, then qq about how vastly superior IB is, please get with the program and don't clutter the discussion with facts.


lol....yea I am a s/w so I never really have problems with managing my focus....if I do not pay attention and am running Detection and only using focus attacks then I will run out....but that is on me and not paying attention.

What they really need to ADJUST is the R/S elite COMBAT MASTER. This one skill is making all other DPS roles non existent. Which in turn is causing an unbalance in PVE content. Ever since the glorious days of Runes of Scouts no one will run instances anymore unless they can burn the damn bosses in less than 30secs....which is getting very annoying, the fact that I hear oh we can not do that instance because we do not have any R/S to burn it down in 30secs or less is getting real old real fast. The fun and challenge of the game is being removed because of this one elite Skill. To be honest the game has lost a lot of fun because of the mentality of the community now.

SO PLEASE NERF THE ELITE SKILL COMBAT MASTER. Bring R/S in line with the rest of the DPS roles.

They should remove the Crit Dmg boost on Combat Master and switch it to Accuracy boost.

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:10pm

Quoted from "kakita01;547048"

lol....yea I am a s/w so I never really have problems with managing my focus....if I do not pay attention and am running Detection and only using focus attacks then I will run out....but that is on me and not paying attention.

What they really need to ADJUST is the R/S elite COMBAT MASTER. This one skill is making all other DPS roles non existent. Which in turn is causing an unbalance in PVE content. Ever since the glorious days of Runes of Scouts no one will run instances anymore unless they can burn the damn bosses in less than 30secs....which is getting very annoying, the fact that I hear oh we can not do that instance because we do not have any R/S to burn it down in 30secs or less is getting real old real fast. The fun and challenge of the game is being removed because of this one elite Skill. To be honest the game has lost a lot of fun because of the mentality of the community now.

SO PLEASE NERF THE ELITE SKILL COMBAT MASTER. Bring R/S in line with the rest of the DPS roles.

They should remove the Crit Dmg boost on Combat Master and switch it to Accuracy boost.


+1 lol looks like we need a why havent rogues been nerfed yet thread, or a "what will be an acceptable nerf to HIDE and shadow prison combat master (insert elite rogue skill here)" also ebil i think we sieged against u one time and i must say i have never seen a rogue that uses hide as little as you do

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 7:12pm

Lets put a 12 sec cool down on it... that will fix everything LOL. The devs = fail. Seems like every other QQ nerf thread is about IB and yet wardens and a few others got thrown in the Nerf forest with the patch on tues.
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 8:15pm

Quoted from "kakita01;547048"

lol....yea I am a s/w so I never really have problems with managing my focus....if I do not pay attention and am running Detection and only using focus attacks then I will run out....but that is on me and not paying attention.

What they really need to ADJUST is the R/S elite COMBAT MASTER. This one skill is making all other DPS roles non existent. Which in turn is causing an unbalance in PVE content. Ever since the glorious days of Runes of Scouts no one will run instances anymore unless they can burn the damn bosses in less than 30secs....which is getting very annoying, the fact that I hear oh we can not do that instance because we do not have any R/S to burn it down in 30secs or less is getting real old real fast. The fun and challenge of the game is being removed because of this one elite Skill. To be honest the game has lost a lot of fun because of the mentality of the community now.

SO PLEASE NERF THE ELITE SKILL COMBAT MASTER. Bring R/S in line with the rest of the DPS roles.

They should remove the Crit Dmg boost on Combat Master and switch it to Accuracy boost.


I doubt that would make people stop trying to burn instances. People would either 1) Rage and quit or 2) look for another way to burn things, the same way that Scouts either quitted, or looked for other options to burn after they were nerfed.
It would just cause this game to lose a lot of much needed players, imo.

And well, I don't think Runewaker cares about P/S at all, so this thread is kinda pointless now lol. It would be nice to see a "tanks needs to be buffed! We need more tanks in the game!!" thread. Its sad when so many PuG groups have to disband because we can't find any tanks. :(
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 8:28pm

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It would be nice to see a "tanks needs to be buffed! We need more tanks in the game!!" thread. Its sad when so many PuG groups have to disband because we can't find any tanks. :(


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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 8:51pm

Quoted from "ruisen2000;547075"

I doubt that would make people stop trying to burn instances. People would either 1) Rage and quit or 2) look for another way to burn things, the same way that Scouts either quitted, or looked for other options to burn after they were nerfed.
It would just cause this game to lose a lot of much needed players, imo.

And well, I don't think Runewaker cares about P/S at all, so this thread is kinda pointless now lol. It would be nice to see a "tanks needs to be buffed! We need more tanks in the game!!" thread. Its sad when so many PuG groups have to disband because we can't find any tanks. :(

Not like the game is not dead anyways.....what I mean by that is there is what is left of us players, no new blood really going to show up on this game.

Hardly any tanks would be due to there is no flash to it. Is a boring class to level, not to mention being slow due to lack of damage output.If you buff up tanks to have high dps output then you would not see anything but tanks and everyone would solo/duo everything once again not fostering any type of community. Which is where I think this game is sitting atm, there is nothing to really foster any community involvement.....Guess we should start a new thread to chit chat back n forth with our thoughts on other classes.

If all the dps classes were roughly balanced instead of one being far superior to all others then let those that rolled into the FoTM QQ all they want. How much skill does it take to max out one elite and one attack skill????

I think the state it is in atm is costing it too loose more players than any class combo's broken elites/skills. I know I am about done playing and probably close to calling it quits all together with this game due to the way community acts. When you cannot even get people to attempt strats on easy mode of instances you know there is a real problem with the community.

Is like the early ENDGAMERS have ran there mouths so much about how difficult instances are they have scared the rest of the player base into being afraid to even try to compete or run instances.

I like chatting with you sir, you at least have good angles and views on the game.

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 8:53pm

Quoted from "kakita01;547082"

Not like the game is not dead anyways.....what I mean by that is there is what is left of us players, no new blood really going to show up on this game.

Hardly any tanks would be due to there is no flash to it. Is a boring class to level, not to mention being slow due to lack of damage output.If you buff up tanks to have high dps output then you would not see anything but tanks and everyone would solo/duo everything once again not fostering any type of community. Which is where I think this game is sitting atm, there is nothing to really foster any community involvement.....Guess we should start a new thread to chit chat back n forth with our thoughts on other classes.

If all the dps classes were roughly balanced instead of one being far superior to all others then let those that rolled into the FoTM QQ all they want. How much skill does it take to max out one elite and one attack skill????

I think the state it is in atm is costing it too loose more players than any class combo's broken elites/skills. I know I am about done playing and probably close to calling it quits all together with this game due to the way community acts. When you cannot even get people to attempt strats on easy mode of instances you know there is a real problem with the community.

Is like the early ENDGAMERS have ran there mouths so much about how difficult instances are they have scared the rest of the player base into being afraid to even try to compete or run instances.

I like chatting with you sir, you at least have good angles and views on the game.


I would gear and play my tank side again if it were not the most expensive class to play. Priest is much cheaper and requires much less gear to run the endgame content.
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 9:10pm

Quoted from "Winston;547085"

I would gear and play my tank side again if it were not the most expensive class to play. Priest is much cheaper and requires much less gear to run the endgame content.


Hey Winston just curious as to why Knight is the most expensive class to play?

I really do not get how it is more expensive to build than any other class?

Unless it has to do with how the community attempts extortion with the knight stats/gear.