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Quoted from "1stfaze;562307"

umm wouldnt a cast time break the class? imagine if every class all of a sudden had a cast time dropped on all thier insta cast skills? 2 second cast for hide, lowblow, surprise attack, magma blade ? itd snatch away viability from alot of classes, not to mention destroy them where it matters,pve

A cast time would be too much, a CD wouldn't, besides there are no real p/s in siege. M/P have brought negative attention to the class for everyone who actually plays it. A "real" p/s in priest gear will get off 15k IB, and they don't use macros where they target and spam IB while running backwards.

M/P switch to P/S for siege, you wonder why the heck an OP mage would do that? Well cause mage doesn't have a skill like IB, even Magma blade has a CD. So a nerf would ruin a class they don't actually play in PvE. That's the hypocrisy of the whole argument, they are not real p/s at all, but it's so OP they don't bother going as their own class. Funny enough in PvE being a mage stated p/s would get you no where fast.

So let them spew all this "ruin a class" nonsense out, they only play that class for siege, why because IB is more OP in PvP then anything their mages can do. So if IB ever gets a nerf, real p/s can go ahead and blame the M/P on this thread for literally exploiting their elite skill. Don't believe me look around your PvE server for a fully mage geared p/s, oh and don't do it right before siege.

Quoted from "Borella;562284"

Rising Tide.. in pvp? Lmao. Cast time skills in PvP are NEVER a good idea.

seriously? then why do mages use flame in siege?

Quoted from "trav42073;562315"

seriously? then why do mages use flame in siege?

nerf r/p

Same thought process, no?

Quoted from "ChaosArmored;562317"

nerf r/p

Same thought process, no?

Is it possible to nerf my r/p anymore then it is? Quite possibly the worst elites in the game. Yay I get a chuck Norris round house kick with a 15 sec CD. Meanwhile the new r/wl is the unknown God. K sensitive topic for me, I would be r/p 100% of the time if I could I don't know...be viable as a r/s.

Quoted from "regentego;562310"

A cast time would be too much, a CD wouldn't, besides there are no real p/s in siege. M/P have brought negative attention to the class for everyone who actually plays it. A "real" p/s in priest gear will get off 15k IB, and they don't use macros where they target and spam IB while running backwards.

M/P switch to P/S for siege, you wonder why the heck an OP mage would do that? Well cause mage doesn't have a skill like IB, even Magma blade has a CD. So a nerf would ruin a class they don't actually play in PvE. That's the hypocrisy of the whole argument, they are not real p/s at all, but it's so OP they don't bother going as their own class. Funny enough in PvE being a mage stated p/s would get you no where fast.

So let them spew all this "ruin a class" nonsense out, they only play that class for siege, why because IB is more OP in PvP then anything their mages can do. So if IB ever gets a nerf, real p/s can go ahead and blame the M/P on this thread for literally exploiting their elite skill. Don't believe me look around your PvE server for a fully mage geared p/s, oh and don't do it right before siege.

this is a big what if kinda thing, sure the "epic p/s" are really mage scouts in pve but the p/k/s are in for it in pve especially since they picked up /s for the sake of a lil soloability. cant always lfg when u need to kill a mob in TB.
but what your saying is nerf IB because all of the ones who hit hard are mages in pve? really as a warrior who gets smacked by anything (low def and mdef BUFF WARRIOR DEFENSES) im out in the open and have taken 130k iceblades but when i check gear i realize itd be a 130k ice blade or a 220k magma blade or a EGW blade, etc; "they stat therefore they are" point is i know im going down when casters come up, its how the game is balanced some classes have advantages over others Scouts >rogues, Tanks>melee, Rogues> most classes (especially since throw buff). every class has a draw back, you cant just look at skills and go "NOPE NERf IT ITS TOO OP IN SIEGE" itd have to be devastating in both pve and pvp to warrant a nerf not many skills fit that criteria anymore

Quoted from "1stfaze;562307"

umm wouldnt a cast time break the class? imagine if every class all of a sudden had a cast time dropped on all thier insta cast skills? 2 second cast for hide, lowblow, surprise attack, magma blade ? itd snatch away viability from alot of classes, not to mention destroy them where it matters,pve

Wouldn't that make you a scout?

Quoted from "trav42073;562315"

seriously? then why do mages use flame in siege?

To bait the rogues out for our own rogue guildie standing right beside us.

For an epeen screenshot of massive damage on a lowbie.

Unless you can afford burning through a million casting pots in Siege with 2 uber P/K spamming heal on you, and enough HP to last several hits, you're probably not going to be using flame often, with the exception of fearless (or invis)+ 5 min casting speed CD.

And Ebli don't blame us M/P going P/S in SW. Our instants hit for 60-70k and have a CD. Lowblow easily hits for 80k-100k without a CD. We want something powerful too... And seriously a lot of DPS P/S suck, they start popping immunes from a mile away as soon as they see you, and by the time they get to you, their immunes are all expired.

Quoted from "regentego;562310"

M/P switch to P/S for siege, you wonder why the heck an OP mage would do that? Well cause mage doesn't have a skill like IB, even Magma blade has a CD. So a nerf would ruin a class they don't actually play in PvE. That's the hypocrisy of the whole argument, they are not real p/s at all, but it's so OP they don't bother going as their own class. Funny enough in PvE being a mage stated p/s would get you no where fast.

So let them spew all this "ruin a class" nonsense out, they only play that class for siege, why because IB is more OP in PvP then anything their mages can do. So if IB ever gets a nerf, real p/s can go ahead and blame the M/P on this thread for literally exploiting their elite skill. Don't believe me look around your PvE server for a fully mage geared p/s, oh and don't do it right before siege.

A real P/s will gear for their play style, if they want to be heals, they'll gear as a healer, if they want to DPS they'll gear for DPS. I'm a fully mage statted P/s most of the time because I seldom party up, preferring to solo most of the time. I only switch to M/p or S/x for dailies to level those classes up.
If I'm out questing or farming EOJs, I will be P/s or P/m because they are both classes very well suited to solo priests and do similar DPS, just about everything I can do as P/s I can do as P/m, so if a M/s/p is going to switch for siege, either class is just as viable.

You would be surprised at how many people actually do play P/s as their primary class, many of them do stat as mages. Out of the 7 I know, 2 gear more as healers with mage stats thrown in, 2 as an even mix mage/healer, and 3 as mages, counting myself that make 4 that gear as mage and none that gear straight healer.
A cast time or a longer cool down would reduce the viability of the class, P/s has no other usable instant skills to fall back on The ones we do have are downright laughable.

Quoted from "erablazer;562331"

Wouldn't that make you a scout?

precisely my point, cast times and elongated cooldowns kill comboes

Quoted from "regentego;562310"

So let them spew all this "ruin a class" nonsense out, they only play that class for siege, why because IB is more OP in PvP then anything their mages can do. So if IB ever gets a nerf, real p/s can go ahead and blame the M/P on this thread for literally exploiting their elite skill. Don't believe me look around your PvE server for a fully mage geared p/s, oh and don't do it right before siege.

nope they couldnt blame m/p they can blame the advocates against it

Quoted from "trav42073;562315"

seriously? then why do mages use flame in siege?

Um...i almost never see mages use flame in siege? Who are u fighting? They use fireball, lighting, discharge, ts, magablade...all their instants.

Or if they pop an invis pot to try to oneshot someone with high hp/defense.

ANYWHO thats totally off topic.

As i was saying before, As far as useable pvp skills, ice blade does the leaset of any skill ive seen.

All my rogue skills do more. The mage instants do more. Technically, thunderstorm does less per tick, but it hits 3 times, so in total it does more. Warrior skills do more. IB is kind of lackluster in damage, it just has range.

I am tired of this thread, they should close it so people will maybe talk about more interesting subjects.

yeah we need a what would be an acceptable nerf to the runes of magic staff's pay checks trololol not the GM's (worked customer service before) but others, sales dev's The effing CEO lol

As this might be one of the last posts here, i want to bring up again perfect and the most fair nerf mentioned 20 or so page ago - reduce the Ice Blade range to 100.

Quoted from "gstnet;562422"

As this might be one of the last posts here, i want to bring up again perfect and the most fair nerf mentioned 20 or so page ago - reduce the Ice Blade range to 100.

TROLLL!!!!! i see you trollin... and hatin (to the tune of ridin dirty)

Quoted from "1stfaze;562423"

TROLLL!!!!! i see you trollin... and hatin (to the tune of ridin dirty)

I was going for "Trollin down the river.." :p

Let's go off subject and maybe they will close it. Anyone hear of Skynet? yeap they're goingto take over to world.

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I think a good solution for solving Ice Blade is to totally remove the skill altogether and give priests other attack skills aside from rising tide and chain of light.