Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "blotoe;567907"

Anyyyywayyyysss. Yea, so i agree with the OP in that something must be done to fix this skill and I think the fault lies in the calculation for damage it uses. TY

really seriously just stop... IB is affected by Mdef and quite a bit dont know if you ever used a p/s, but yea you hit p/k a tun less then your avg rogue due to the difference in Mdef. Having mage geared a p/s a couple months ago i got to exp the difference first hand.

Quoted from "Gilderoi;567911"

The only thing I dont like about IB is my guild has gone up against other guilds in siege where a single priest and a few flames will hols a tower solo... Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB, and everyone coming up the hill from the bridge is dead before even getting a silence off. We eventually get in there and take that priest out, only to have them pop back up from SB and the Tab+IBing starts all over again. Even after setting tretchers around her corpse.

It makes it tough to work around such a high dmg, spammable, attack like IB but it can be done. With a lot of deaths, a lot of try try again, and a lot of pulling hairs out of head.

A Rogue, or a S/K, or a mage could achieve exactly the same thing. Sit in the middle of a bunch of towers and anyone is practically untouchable without fearless.

Quoted from "Cronrs;567912"

really seriously just stop... IB is affected by Mdef and quite a bit dont know if you ever used a p/s, but yea you hit p/k a tun less then your avg rogue due to the difference in Mdef. Having mage geared a p/s a couple months ago i got to exp the difference first hand.

It is less but it isn't reduced by the same % as other skills.

Quoted from "blotoe;567914"

It is less but it isn't reduced by the same % as other skills.

You still have yet to provide proof.. how do you know it's not reduced hm?

Quoted from "Gilderoi;567911"

The only thing I dont like about IB is my guild has gone up against other guilds in siege where a single priest and a few flames will hols a tower solo... Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB,Tab+IB, and everyone coming up the hill from the bridge is dead before even getting a silence off. We eventually get in there and take that priest out, only to have them pop back up from SB and the Tab+IBing starts all over again. Even after setting tretchers around her corpse.

It makes it tough to work around such a high dmg, spammable, attack like IB but it can be done. With a lot of deaths, a lot of try try again, and a lot of pulling hairs out of head.

^ yea soul bound in pvp is ridiculous.

Quoted from "Borella;567913"

A Rogue, or a S/K, or a mage could achieve exactly the same thing. Sit in the middle of a bunch of towers and anyone is practically untouchable without fearless.

Prove it!!

Quoted from "blotoe;567917"

Prove it!!

Go face PPK. Their top three people are a mage and a S/K and a Rogue. Not a P/S.

Don't you think if P/S was as OP as everyone says it is... the top sw guild on the US servers would have them? Yes, they would. But they don't. Because S/K and M/Wdn and Rogue are all BETTER.

Quoted from "Borella;567918"

Go face PPK. Their top three people are a mage and a S/K and a Rogue. Not a P/S.

Don't you think if P/S was as OP as everyone says it is... the top sw guild on the US servers would have them? Yes, they would. But they don't. Because S/K and M/Wdn and Rogue are all BETTER.

How do you know they are all better? Do you have proof? Videos or SS or it didnt happen. Also alot of other endgame guilds on Artemis (i think there are like 4 now) are as geared as ppk with the same mix of classes but none are as skilled it seems.. might be the case with other servers i dunno....

Quoted from "blotoe;567919"

How do you know they are all better? Do you have proof? Videos or SS or it didnt happen. Also alot of other endgame guilds on Artemis (i think there are like 4 now) are as geared as ppk with the same mix of classes but none are as skilled it seems.. might be the case with other servers i dunno....

Sacredmagic owns everyone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5pqwQsmhh0 i remember seeing him get hit by Iceblade somewhere in there.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;567923"

Sacredmagic owns everyone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5pqwQsmhh0 i remember seeing him get hit by Iceblade somewhere in there.

HAHAH yea that was a much needed laugh thank you for that post ruisen2000. I guess healers actually healing helps!! Oh and i found Ravesden in that video lmao.. probably would help if you stopped jumping around and healed the dps around you because i just saw you face plant as soon as you left your gate ahahahaha.

Quoted from "blotoe;567926"

HAHAH yea that was a much needed laugh thank you for that post ruisen2000. I guess healers actually healing helps!! Oh and i found Ravesden in that video lmao.. probably would help if you stopped jumping around and healed the dps around you because i just saw you face plant as soon as you left your gate ahahahaha.

Yes cause i'm sure you would live much longer past the gate against PPK.. rofl.

Quoted from "blotoe;567832"

Hmm i guess then a k/s should be able to keep up with dps class combos on damage too? in endgame instances like tosh?

How about dps combos tanking as well as a knight? This game is not one where any class can do the same as any other class. There are class roles especially in pve settings. So I disagree with that part.

dude you do what you stat for, if us stack pdef u own melee, if u stack pattk u hit hard ,if u wear healer gear u heal better. this is what makes the game great, no one has a set role. they can do what they want with a bit of creativity they even help u out with ghost stats like strength /intelligence on chain armor lol you cant hate a player for using game mechanics to its fullest because u dont want to die in siege.

as its been stated, your garden variety of p/s arent going to be a huge problem the only ones i seem to struggle with are the 100k hp plus ones, since i need more than one hit to kill them... i need two! if u are having issues with the weaker ones then its more of a YOU problem than a p/s needs a fix problem

Oh let's not forget about the asterisk beside Sacredmagic's name now, shall we?

Blotoe person, who I doubt I have ever faced in siege, please let the people who actually have something approaching a clue as to how the mechanics of iceblade work and scale actually make this argument, will you?

Let the grownups hash this one out.

Unless and until you can come up with fraps or even solid numbers of tests you've made, we won't be able to take you very seriously, and you might end up like a certain dex-stacking mage we all know and dearly love, who also liked to make assertions without much evidence to back them up.

Fraps or it didn't happen, in other words.

Responding with, well, nonsense, like "u mad bro"- isn't going to win any points from the forum regulars either.

We'd be thrilled to death to continue to pursue this in a reasonable and adult manner. But, as gloriously fun as feeding obvious trolls is, it rarely works out well for the troll in the end.

If/when you can provide us fraps of your tests, or even give us any kind of creditable evidence of your claims, we'll be happy to entertain them. Til then, be a good boy and go quietly back to your den, will you?

Thanks ever so

U mad fanny?

<3

Quoted from "pwnsnoobs;567972"

U mad fanny?

<3

*cues the chorus*

SHUT UP GREEN!

<3 u too

Come on guys don't try to drive blotoe out of this thread. He's our best hope of getting this thing finally closed by a GM for instigating these types of comments/arguments.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;567978"

Come on guys don't try to drive blotoe out of this thread. He's our best hope of getting this thing finally closed by a GM for instigating these types of comments/arguments.

I doubt Iceblade will get nerfed. >.>

Not even sure why this thread stayed open for 52 pages.

STACK MOAR MDEF.

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;567971"

Oh let's not forget about the asterisk beside Sacredmagic's name now, shall we?

Blotoe person, who I doubt I have ever faced in siege, please let the people who actually have something approaching a clue as to how the mechanics of iceblade work and scale actually make this argument, will you?

Let the grownups hash this one out.

Unless and until you can come up with fraps or even solid numbers of tests you've made, we won't be able to take you very seriously, and you might end up like a certain dex-stacking mage we all know and dearly love, who also liked to make assertions without much evidence to back them up.

Fraps or it didn't happen, in other words.

Responding with, well, nonsense, like "u mad bro"- isn't going to win any points from the forum regulars either.

We'd be thrilled to death to continue to pursue this in a reasonable and adult manner. But, as gloriously fun as feeding obvious trolls is, it rarely works out well for the troll in the end.

If/when you can provide us fraps of your tests, or even give us any kind of creditable evidence of your claims, we'll be happy to entertain them. Til then, be a good boy and go quietly back to your den, will you?

Thanks ever so

Hmmm, do i sense some elitist attitude o.O? ---> "Til then, be a good boy and go quietly back to your den, will you?"

Also, my "u mad bro" comment wasnt without merit, which you should have figured out if you actually read what i wrote till that post and then the reply i received from Borella.

Quoted from "Borella;567895"

You have NO PROOF that it ignores mdef. At all. Until you have a video, showing EXACT numbers, you are just complaining and whining about it with no proof that it actually is broken in any way.

It's not *our* job to prove it doesn't ignore mdef, that'd be your job, since you're the one claiming it does.

I dunno he seemed mad lol figured I would ask him *shrugs*

Quoted from "blotoe;567926"

HAHAH yea that was a much needed laugh thank you for that post ruisen2000. I guess healers actually healing helps!! Oh and i found Ravesden in that video lmao.. probably would help if you stopped jumping around and healed the dps around you because i just saw you face plant as soon as you left your gate ahahahaha.

Pro tip: Druids can heal on the move.

Noob tip: Nowhere in that video did I die as soon as I left the gate. Try again buddy!

Love to know how long you personally live against a geared guild btw. Actually, give me your guild and in-game name, I'll make sure you learn what real face planting is before the hours done

Lol 52 pages,, Iceblade does not need a fix. Let's move on guys.1 hr of siege is all there is .