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581

Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 4:05pm

Quoted from "turboreaper666;569377"


That alone should be reason for concern about a "nerf" this priest combo because of 1 hr per day.
When a nerf thread is started based on siege alone ad only on 1 skill, one has to wonder where does L2P come into effect.


god i hate this argument, YES YOU DO BALANCE A SKILL BECAUSE OF ONE HOUR OF PVP... seeing how its pretty much the only pvp in this game. Any skill not just Iceblade for that matter.

seriously though that argument is just lazy and completely pointless.
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Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 4:07pm

Quoted from "Borella;569343"

All our buffs? What buffs exactly? We don't have buffs. One of the things wrong with the class in pve.


I think Embrace of the water Spirit is a P/S elite, gives you 6% matk at 55 ish or so. One of the reasons why I'l give extra love to a priest to come as P/S in PvE. :o
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583

Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 7:02pm

Quoted from "Cronrs;569407"

god i hate this argument, YES YOU DO BALANCE A SKILL BECAUSE OF ONE HOUR OF PVP... seeing how its pretty much the only pvp in this game. Any skill not just Iceblade for that matter.

seriously though that argument is just lazy and completely pointless.


The truly pointless thing would be to balance a pve game for pvp.

Classes are actually closer to balance than they have been since way back in ch2. Pretty much any class combo can get into a non-guild run, chp2 there were classes that couldn't get a run unless they convinced their guild to drag them. Chp3, everyone knows the issues then.
No P/s is going to devastate an opposing guild the way a single rogue can.

Balancing a pve game for one hour of pvp is pretty silly. If PVP is important, then why play on a pve server?

584

Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 7:15pm

Quoted from "puppybreath;569431"

The truly pointless thing would be to balance a pve game for pvp.

Classes are actually closer to balance than they have been since way back in ch2. Pretty much any class combo can get into a non-guild run, chp2 there were classes that couldn't get a run unless they convinced their guild to drag them. Chp3, everyone knows the issues then.
No P/s is going to devastate an opposing guild the way a single rogue can.

Balancing a pve game for one hour of pvp is pretty silly. If PVP is important, then why play on a pve server?


because pvp servers are dead for the most part? and things are kinda worse now... instead of just scouts having insane uber DPS now everyone does. Even in chapter 2-3 nobody ever got one shot except by maybe a fully buffed mage.
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Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 8:48pm

Quoted from "puppybreath;569431"

The truly pointless thing would be to balance a pve game for pvp.

No P/s is going to devastate an opposing guild the way a single rogue can.

Balancing a pve game for one hour of pvp is pretty silly. If PVP is important, then why play on a pve server?


first, have you seen killcounts on endgame p/s's? obviously not. The amount of effort I have to go through to get numbers like that is insane. (I'm a dam good rogue and any geared p/s can do this)

second since when is balance not important? Just because you don't care about siege doesn't mean others don't.

586

Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 8:50pm

If you're gonna base a classes OP'ness off the amount of kills it gets... let's nerd m/wd m/d s/k and s/wdn while we're at it. And every rogue.
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587

Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 8:55pm

I've gotten top 3-5 kills a few times. Nerf me, Im OP.

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588

Wednesday, September 12th 2012, 9:38pm

For the love of GOD just stop.... Nothing will change with IB so STOP... jebus chrysler!!!

just saying LOL
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589

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 12:39am

Quoted from "Bakken;569448"

first, have you seen killcounts on endgame p/s's? obviously not. The amount of effort I have to go through to get numbers like that is insane. (I'm a dam good rogue and any geared p/s can do this)


I've seen a very well-geared P/S get topped by a K/S and an S/Wd somewhat frequently for siege kill counts. I've also seen M/D, M/Wd, and R/S wipe entire groups of people by themselves. If you can't get kills as an R/S, you're doing it wrong, ijs.

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590

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 10:59am

Quoted from "Bakken;569448"

first, have you seen killcounts on endgame p/s's? obviously not. The amount of effort I have to go through to get numbers like that is insane. (I'm a dam good rogue and any geared p/s can do this)

second since when is balance not important? Just because you don't care about siege doesn't mean others don't.


Since they changed the way kills are totaled up, kill counts are useless to base performance on. I've seen level 30 tower huggers in the top 5 for kills simply because a lot of battles went on near them. So, if kill counts mean a class is OP, then watch out for those level 30 rogue priests.

Lets do an honest test here, everyone install war record, then for the next two weeks post the top 5 or 10 kills every siege to this thread or a new one created for that reason.

If it looks like my war record, the priest/scouts who make it there will be heavily outnumbered.

In none of my posts did I ever say I didn't care about siege, I love siege.
But there is no reason to balance a game for an hour a day, when a majority play that class for far more than an hour a day.

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Thursday, September 13th 2012, 8:40pm

I'm frequently top killer for corruption with crackback and I personally have no big issue killing the best p/s's but I see what they do to everyone else and most classes just stand no chance against it, especially if they DIYCE too <.<

Quoted from "puppybreath"

But there is no reason to balance a game for an hour a day

and why the hell not? it's been discussed p/s is far from viable in pve and practically only for this 1 hour. It's most servers only pvp in the game why would balance not matter?
And by saying that I think your agreeing to the skills' OPness

592

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 8:43pm

Quoted from "Bakken;569569"

I'm frequently top killer for corruption with crackback and I personally have no big issue killing the best p/s's but I see what they do to everyone else and most classes just stand no chance against it, especially if they DIYCE too <.<


and why the hell not? it's been discussed p/s is far from viable in pve and practically only for this 1 hour. It's most servers only pvp in the game why would balance not matter?
And by saying that I think your agreeing to the skills' OPness

Because the way to balance P/s for pvp is to first fix how siege works. First you need to cut both the damage and healing done in sw on both players and structures, and fix the fact that the only possible way to take down a gate is by using the face of trech glitch or by hitting it with 4 scrolls/tornadoes at once. Then we can go about balancing classes one siege war itself is fixed.

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Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:06pm

Quoted from "Bakken;569569"

I'm frequently top killer for corruption with crackback and I personally have no big issue killing the best p/s's but I see what they do to everyone else and most classes just stand no chance against it, especially if they DIYCE too <.<


and why the hell not? it's been discussed p/s is far from viable in pve and practically only for this 1 hour. It's most servers only pvp in the game why would balance not matter?
And by saying that I think your agreeing to the skills' OPness


Corruption had no issues with going against Waldrick and Yuhwa, both 200k hp p/s? Formerly of XG and now in Clockwork. I strongly disagree with your statement ;).

594

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:16pm

Quoted from "brogue;569575"

Corruption had no issues with going against Waldrick and Yuhwa, both 200k hp p/s? Formerly of XG and now in Clockwork. I strongly disagree with your statement ;).


Well. They lost. So must be h4x! Because surely that's all I heard them say.

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Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:29pm

Quoted from "brogue;569575"

Corruption had no issues with going against Waldrick and Yuhwa, both 200k hp p/s? Formerly of XG and now in Clockwork. I strongly disagree with your statement ;).


if you read I said that "I" don't.

and yeah I completely agree with darwec, like usual lol

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Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:30pm

I am in no way for a nerf of any class but at least post the truth if you gonna come in here bragging about how you own the best p/s's in the game. I can guarantee you have issues with Vinz, Yuhwa or Waldrick.

OH I wish I had those screenshots ;/. Its ok, I am trollin you a bit but your guild was just so angry and out right rude to us when we sieged.

597

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:33pm

Prolly owns Fan tho. She's noob!

edit: Just had the BEST idea. Lets steal Nyyx when she comes back >:0

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598

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:36pm

0.o

all I can say is see you guys next siege :D
*though you wont see me*

599

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:38pm

Quoted from "Ravesden;569586"

Prolly owns Fan tho. She's noob!

edit: Just had the BEST idea. Lets steal Nyyx when she comes back >:0


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600

Thursday, September 13th 2012, 9:43pm

Quoted from "humilitea;569590"

all yer nyyx belong to me


Nuuuu, seriously. Lets get her. Its my new goal. To be reunited with my p/s noob and create more iceblade qq threads about p/s not ever dying with so many end game healers behind them. Her and I used to duo a whole side against guilds, I miss that :(

Think about it. Reni's best 3 p/s on our side, coupled with our almost unkillable s/k and army of healers :O

Imma steal her and ninja inv. Not gonna ask for your permission >:P

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