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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 8:50pm

Item Shop Sales Feedback

We get a ton of threads about the item shop every other day or so. I felt it was time to make one thread to cover the item shop, as well as the sales they do. I would appreciate it if a mod/cm/gm would sticky this for that purpose.

I'm going to cover what I feel is an acceptable pricing strategy, feel free to post your own.

1. Items that are consumables, such as golden repair hammers, purified fusion stones, transport runes, extractors, plussing jewels, attribute purification stones, pet items, st. phoenix potions, big angel's sighs, etc. should NEVER go beyond a $1.00 price point per item. The normal price should be around $.50 cents each unless packaged in multiples of the item, with the sale price being at $.40 or under, $.25 being an atypical sale price.

2. Rubies are an extra bonus for buying diamonds. They are not an item that should be "sold" in a sale, negating the "thank you" that comes for buying diamonds to begin with. The ruby bonus should be placed back on sale items.

3. Items that are more permanent or cosmetic, such as backpack slots, tier X runes, mounts, housing storage, costumes, etc. are premium items. It's fine if these go over the $1.00 price point, but at no point should they start costing more than $6.00 per item.

Please note that the item prices above do not account for diamond sales.

At this time, the frequency of diamond sales should be increased slightly. A sale every two weeks to two and a half weeks is perfect, as it gives people enough time to save for the sale and places enough time between the sales to allow for items to be bought when they are not on sale.

Sales should last the entire day, regardless of what is placed in the promotion. No one who wants to play the game and buy something to help their character should be discriminated against, as is happening with the current "Happy Hour" promos.

A diamond sale should happen alongside an item promotion sale at least once a month. This encourages people to look forward to the next few sales, in addition to giving them a reason to stock up on diamonds in anticipation of the next good sale.

One other thing: Sales should always be announced in advance. It is really not that difficult to put up a weekly sales note on the front page, giving players time to prepare for what's coming.
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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 8:59pm

Quoted from "LadyMacV;547080"

We get a ton of threads about the item shop every other day or so. I felt it was time to make one thread to cover the item shop, as well as the sales they do. I would appreciate it if a mod/cm/gm would sticky this for that purpose.

I'm going to cover what I feel is an acceptable pricing strategy, feel free to post your own.

1. Items that are consumables, such as golden repair hammers, purified fusion stones, transport runes, extractors, plussing jewels, attribute purification stones, pet items, st. phoenix potions, big angel's sighs, etc. should NEVER go beyond a $1.00 price point per item. The normal price should be around $.50 cents each unless packaged in multiples of the item, with the sale price being at $.40 or under, $.25 being an atypical sale price.

2. Rubies are an extra bonus for buying diamonds. They are not an item that should be "sold" in a sale, negating the "thank you" that comes for buying diamonds to begin with. The ruby bonus should be placed back on sale items.

3. Items that are more permanent or cosmetic, such as backpack slots, tier X runes, mounts, housing storage, costumes, etc. are premium items. It's fine if these go over the $1.00 price point, but at no point should they start costing more than $6.00 per item.

Please note that the item prices above do not account for diamond sales.

At this time, the frequency of diamond sales should be increased slightly. A sale every two weeks to two and a half weeks is perfect, as it gives people enough time to save for the sale and places enough time between the sales to allow for items to be bought when they are not on sale.

Sales should last the entire day, regardless of what is placed in the promotion. No one who wants to play the game and buy something to help their character should be discriminated against, as is happening with the current "Happy Hour" promos.

A diamond sale should happen alongside an item promotion sale at least once a month. This encourages people to look forward to the next few sales, in addition to giving them a reason to stock up on diamonds in anticipation of the next good sale.

One other thing: Sales should always be announced in advance. It is really not that difficult to put up a weekly sales note on the front page, giving players time to prepare for what's coming.


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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 9:01pm

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 10:51pm

ALSO, IMO.. for the Free to play players we can NOT accumulate any rubies because all the Ruby bonuses are GONE from the token shop. I can used to be able to get enough rubies saved up in the double the time at diamond paying players but now i can't even Hope to buy a backpack ticket or plusing stones unless I buy diamonds or find someone very generous to help. the Token shop items ruby bonses were very small yet it was at least a GOAL to keep doing my dailies to spend them in the token shop to get my next week/months ticket. Or other things. No ruby bonus in the token shop makes is sad.

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Thursday, July 19th 2012, 11:51pm

Agree with LadyM 100%

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Friday, July 20th 2012, 12:31am

You could add also comodities sales. Since I work all day I don't have too much time to play during week so, at least 2-3 hours that's the best I can do, but I'm a great fan of comodities, why would I buy a Magic perfume (1 day) every single day just for the purpose of do dailies?
Why should I buy a perm mounto for my alt if I could have a (7 day) (30 day) with tokens?
Why tokens buyin expensive things won't give rubies anymore.

Seriously I pratically abandoned the game before my main char reached max level after what was done with item shop. I barelly log in just to do some dailies and grab mats with my alt, but I really lost the excitement of playing this game. There was a month that I bought dias 3 times for my own use, so much I enjoyed the game, but now that pleasure has far gone. So please consider comodities and other stuffs players are claiming, this game is good, the people behind the decisions seems to be not.

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Friday, July 20th 2012, 1:29am

Agree fully, though I don't think mounts are too expensive themselves.

I giggled when I saw that they wanted us to be happy that they gave us a sale on rubies. Their marketing strategies seem to be getting worse and worse.

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Friday, July 20th 2012, 1:43am

Agreed. A lot of people often miss diamond sales, because they end before many people even know the sale was there. Imo, diamond sales should last 2 days at least (for the people that either can't log on that day).
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Friday, July 20th 2012, 3:35am

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Agreed. A lot of people often miss diamond sales, because they end before many people even know the sale was there. Imo, diamond sales should last 2 days at least (for the people that either can't log on that day).


Like little ole Aussie me. I know of others that miss out. Not only on diamond sales but sales in general because they happen while we are off earning the money to buy the diamonds that we can't get to use on the sales that we miss.
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Saturday, July 21st 2012, 12:55pm

+umptybillion to LadyMac.

I would just add that it's time to test market ABL's (which are somewhat controversial) +12 jewels (AND PERFECTS!!1! for rubies) and 30 day Magic Perfume in the Euro Item Shop.

While this forum has collectively written the equivalent of a doctoral dissertation on the plusses and minuses of ABL's permanently in the Item Shop, absolutely no one could come up with a reason not to always have +12 jewels and 30 day Pet Perfume in there. We would like them back nao pls. Heck, add 30% mount speed potions (30 days) to that list. Make em expensive, we won't care.

People want and need to buy these things. Please please TAKE OUR MONEY. This concept is not ROCKET SCIENCE. >.>

Besides, then you can get us all excited when you put them on bundled sales!
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Saturday, July 21st 2012, 3:16pm

Or even better yet. Sincie this game is SOOOOOO expensive to be any good at it in the first place, How about just make it permenant double diamonds prices so that you don not loose so many players come 8-28-12. At this point I know myself and at least 100 or so more people who are jumping ship if things do not get better. And all of us have been big Diamond buyers.

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Saturday, July 21st 2012, 3:19pm

Also like the costumes to be reverted back to how they were before. I do NOT and will not spend diamonds to buy a whole package of a costume that I dont want. Just to get one peice that I do want.
Costumes should be split back to allow you to be able to buy the specific peice to it you want.
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