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Jake2120

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Monday, July 23rd 2012, 10:44pm

I cant progress Frogster

we need abl on item shop now ..

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Monday, July 23rd 2012, 11:01pm

In this game, in order to do an instance, you really need the gear from the instance.

I wish one instance gave you the gear to prepare you for the next instance.

I can't progress because I can no longer afford the items from the ah so I can do the instance. :(

So yes please we need abl so I can drool over the gear I can't afford to get. I shall just keep saving gold.

At this rate, the prices of the gear will just go higher I am afraid :(

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Monday, July 23rd 2012, 11:02pm

You don't need ToSh gear to run tosh, you don't need GCH gear to run GCH, it's really not necessary. o.O
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Monday, July 23rd 2012, 11:06pm

Quoted from "Ophillia;559726"

In this game, in order to do an instance, you really need the gear from the instance.

I wish one instance gave you the gear to prepare you for the next instance.

I can't progress because I can no longer afford the items from the ah so I can do the instance. :(

So yes please we need abl so I can drool over the gear I can't afford to get. I shall just keep saving gold.

At this rate, the prices of the gear will just go higher I am afraid :(

I run tosh and ac with dex bunker statted gch gear....granted i have a tosh weapon, but i dident have that weapon when i started running tosh. I started running tosh with a t10 jtk. :s

you can clear GCh with temple/tomb statted atrocity gear.

you can clear any instance in the game with bunker statted gch gear.

you will top out any scrut with ac/hero statted tosh gear.

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Monday, July 23rd 2012, 11:41pm

Depends on the class on what gear you need to run stuff. You might be able to get away with certain gear at some viable classes, but if you're class isn't as viable, you need better gear obviously. All comes down to class balance imo.

Also may come down to guild and if they do runs or if you can find pug runs, etc.

Either way, as a M/W, it isn't your class combo. That's like the easy button DPS for PvE.

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Monday, July 23rd 2012, 11:59pm

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;559729"

I run tosh and ac with dex bunker statted gch gear....granted i have a tosh weapon, but i dident have that weapon when i started running tosh. I started running tosh with a t10 jtk. :s

you can clear GCh with temple/tomb statted atrocity gear.

you can clear any instance in the game with bunker statted gch gear.

you will top out any scrut with ac/hero statted tosh gear.


There aren't as many DPS gear checks as there are Tank and healer gear checks, you might be able to get away with things on DPS that you can't get away with on other classes, anyways I think we're straying from the subject of ABLs on sale.

I need them to unbind stuff from my P/K to move to D/W/Wd so yeah, Abls on sale please.

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 12:05am

You also must consider at todays prices to make gears...Why would you invest so much into a low level piece?

Your gonna plus,stat and drill a Grafu piece when Tosh gears are available?
A waste of $$ IMO

Having no ABL's is just gonna scare away newer players that can't afford to restat every instance or so
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:08am

I started running ToSH-H in Chapter 4 with Imprisonment dirty statted Tier 4 Devil Slaughter gear at +7 and was not being carried. Was doing around 3.5 Mil damage per boss at that time. As a DPS you don't need end game gear to run end game content, not even close.
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:11am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;559765"

I started running ToSH-H in Chapter 4 with Imprisonment dirty statted Tier 4 Devil Slaughter gear at +7 and was not being carried. Was doing around 3Mil damage per boss at that time. As a DPS you don't need end game gear to run end game content, not even close.

Ive seen healers in castle stats and less heal tosh. The only real class that needs totally up to date gear are tanks.

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:13am

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;559766"

Ive seen healers in castle stats and less heal tosh. The only real class that needs totally up to date gear are tanks.


Lol yep, heals is even easier. They restat for more Defense and HP only since their wisdom cap has already been reached since RT days.
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:15am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;559765"

I started running ToSH-H in Chapter 4 with Imprisonment dirty statted Tier 4 Devil Slaughter gear at +7 and was not being carried. Was doing around 3.5 Mil damage per boss at that time. As a DPS you don't need end game gear to run end game content, not even close.


W/Wd shouldn't be allowed in this discussion regardless lol but I have a feeling you're trolling anyways, you damn high patk guys.

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:17am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;559767"

Lol yep, heals is even easier. They restat for more Defense and HP only since their wisdom cap has already been reached since RT days.


Unless you're D/S or any other druid combo because of HoTs, so many people are just P/K though

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:22am

Quoted from "Kefkai;559768"

W/Wd shouldn't be allowed in this discussion regardless lol but I have a feeling you're trolling anyways, you damn high patk guys.


Hehe, a lot of people also thought I was trolling too. As I said the same things when I just first started running ToSH was also a topic about not having enough gear to run stuff or something. But yep ask people on Reni, pwning in ToSH-H back then with dirty stats and 90K HP full buff :D
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:23am

Someone say troll? I'm here!

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:27am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;559771"

Hehe, a lot of people also thought I was trolling too. As I said the same things when I just first started running ToSH was also a topic about not having enough gear to run stuff or something. But yep ask people on Reni, pwning in ToSH-H back then with dirty stats and 90K HP full buff :D


No, no, I'm not saying trolling in terms of the gear, I'm saying trolling in terms of being a W/Wd talking about what kind of gear is needed to do instances lol, only reason W/Wd can is their tons of PA buffs other classes can't reach the Patk caps of bosses as easily as W/Wd, M/W might be close in terms of Matk cap but I'm not too sure.

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:30am

Quoted from "Kefkai;559773"

No, no, I'm not saying trolling in terms of the gear, I'm saying trolling in terms of being a W/Wd talking about what kind of gear is needed to do instances lol, only reason W/Wd can is their tons of PA buffs other classes can't reach the Patk caps of bosses as easily as W/Wd, M/W might be close in terms of Matk cap but I'm not too sure.


Nah, I only had around 60K P.Att unbuffed at that time and only because I pretty much statted everything as Str/P.Att x 4, Str/HP x 2, on my Paicha's until I got my new accessories and Tosh set. That's why I had low HP then too. I used P.Dmg food throughout, if another class were to try to attempt the same, they can use P.Att food and pretty much pull around the same numbers maybe a bit less. Also, when we all first started doing ToSH, there was no burning. Majority of our fights lasted longer than my P.Att buffs anyways. Scratch that, all of the fights lasted longer than my P.Att buffs lol
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:47am

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;559729"

I run tosh and ac with dex bunker statted gch gear....granted i have a tosh weapon, but i dident have that weapon when i started running tosh. I started running tosh with a t10 jtk. :s

you can clear GCh with temple/tomb statted atrocity gear.

you can clear any instance in the game with bunker statted gch gear.

you will top out any scrut with ac/hero statted tosh gear.


As far as I know, that only applies to guild runs. PuGs almost always only accept ppl that can burn down the instance. If you're one of those "just ready for the instance", its not likely that they'd allow you to join...
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 1:54am

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As far as I know, that only applies to guild runs. PuGs almost always only accept ppl that can burn down the instance. If you're one of those "just ready for the instance", its not likely that they'd allow you to join...


Yea, you're pretty much right about that. Pugs normally don't have the patience to attempt first clears for themselves with people that they don't really talk to much or play together with and those that have cleared multiple times want to minimize deaths, waste of foods, hammers, pots by burning as fast as possible. It is hard to get a group with a "just ready for instance" members unless you are a guild.
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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 2:15am

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Nah, I only had around 60K P.Att unbuffed at that time and only because I pretty much statted everything as Str/P.Att x 4, Str/HP x 2, on my Paicha's until I got my new accessories and Tosh set. That's why I had low HP then too. I used P.Dmg food throughout, if another class were to try to attempt the same, they can use P.Att food and pretty much pull around the same numbers maybe a bit less. Also, when we all first started doing ToSH, there was no burning. Majority of our fights lasted longer than my P.Att buffs anyways. Scratch that, all of the fights lasted longer than my P.Att buffs lol


Explain to me how Rogues that are non R/Ws can reach the Patk cap with that limited amount of gear, scouts can if they use Blood Arrow which depending on your healer they may not want to heal during a burn.

I mean non-burn phase other classes will catch up which happens during longer fights but you're not going to be close to pulling the same dps you were without your buffs and if it lasts long enough you can zerk again anyways.

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Tuesday, July 24th 2012, 2:40am

I hate how all of you guys say you dont need tosh gear to run tosh...

did you guys ran tosh or gc with ur original guild? or did you guys moved to the top guilds on ur server??

im sorry but not going to sell myself

objetive of running a instance is upgrading/sell pieces so you can buy dias from seller and become a f2p

all i need is ABLS... to unbind my old gear sell it and buy a new one from AH ... Ah atm is empty...
is my decision to buy items from the ah and not running instances to get gear
(an example of that ... ppl buying dog meats)

its so easy to say go farm ur own gear .. when you are on the top guilds

thats all and pls stay on topic