Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Kefkai;559787"

Explain to me how Rogues that are non R/Ws can reach the Patk cap with that limited amount of gear, scouts can if they use Blood Arrow which depending on your healer they may not want to heal during a burn.

I mean non-burn phase other classes will catch up which happens during longer fights but you're not going to be close to pulling the same dps you were without your buffs and if it lasts long enough you can zerk again anyways.

Yea, most fights did last about a minute and a half then, except for first, second, and third which were longer. So I guess Berserking twice did have a bit to do with it, but I'm sure other classes would be able to as well. Just not to the extent that I did it at.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559791"

I hate how all of you guys say you dont need tosh gear to run tosh...

did you guys ran tosh or gc with ur original guild? or did you guys moved to the top guilds on ur server??

im sorry but not going to sell myself

objetive of running a instance is upgrading/sell pieces so you can buy dias from seller and become a f2p

all i need is ABLS... to unbind my old gear sell it and buy a new one from AH ... Ah atm is empty...
is my decision to buy items from the ah and not running instances to get gear
(an example of that ... ppl buying dog meats)

its so easy to say go farm ur own gear .. when you are on the top guilds

thats all and pls stay on topic

No, I did not run ToSH with my original guild lol. My original guild disbanded like a year and a half ago and no one from that guild still plays except for me. Then I moved into another guild, that guild too disbanded for almost a year now because of internal problems and only like 3 or 4 members still play. That guild was a higher level guild than the guild I moved to next, Heretic, which is the current guild I'm in now. So I never "sold out" to a higher level guild. I moved into a lower end guild, and over time the guild became endgame.

The point I'm trying to make here, is that you don't need the very best to move on. You also don't need to super uber mod your non end game gear to be able to move onto new instances. You can start by lower end gear, mod it slightly and move on without spending too much dias/gold on gear until you get your end game gear. Easiest place to start is RT.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559791"

I hate how all of you guys say you dont need tosh gear to run tosh...

did you guys ran tosh or gc with ur original guild? or did you guys moved to the top guilds on ur server??

im sorry but not going to sell myself

objetive of running a instance is upgrading/sell pieces so you can buy dias from seller and become a f2p

all i need is ABLS... to unbind my old gear sell it and buy a new one from AH ... Ah atm is empty...
is my decision to buy items from the ah and not running instances to get gear
(an example of that ... ppl buying dog meats)

its so easy to say go farm ur own gear .. when you are on the top guilds

thats all and pls stay on topic

Um.. you don't need tosh gear to run tosh. How do you think we all cleared tosh to begin with? We didn't have tosh gear.. we had GCH/SC gear and stats.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559799"

ok mr.p/s ... you think i going to buy gch/sc gear and stats to all my guildies so we all try tosh??

its more cheap buy tosh gear directly from AH - and if im not wrong ur guild is a endgame on reni ..

like i said before is so easy to say it when you are at the top ..

*Shrug* I started healing GCH with 40K hp unbuffed in DL/ZS half statted gear.

You could go like.. put parties together.. and try to run instances.. instead of sitting on the forums complaining that you can't buy your way to the top.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559799"

ok mr.p/s ... you think i going to buy gch/sc gear and stats to all my guildies so we all try tosh??

its more cheap buy tosh gear directly from AH - and if im not wrong ur guild is a endgame on reni ..

like i said before is so easy to say it when you are at the top ..

Said it before, I'll say it again. You don't even need SC/GCH gear to run tosh. I did it with ZS/DL/RT gear. Get RT pieces, get shell vendor pieces, plus them to 7, drill 2 rune slots in them, puris are dirt cheap now compared to past. Stat them up. Congratz! you can run ToSH as a content pushing group.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559799"

ok mr.p/s ... you think i going to buy gch/sc gear and stats to all my guildies so we all try tosh??

its more cheap buy tosh gear directly from AH - and if im not wrong ur guild is a endgame on reni ..

like i said before is so easy to say it when you are at the top ..

He is speaking the truth and trying to say hey you just need a group of people willing to do the insta and that you do not have to have OP gear to do it in....but yes there is a progession you have to go through. And that you do need some place to start but trying to give you tips on how to build cheap to be able to do the instances.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559803"

its not ur problem how i play the game ... i want to frogster put ABLS on ITEM SHOP ...

if you dont have any positive things to say stop replying thx

I play this game for siege ... its not like im naked on RoM .. unbuffed i reach 16k intel/80k hp ...

also you dont want me to complain here.. and where the hell i going to contact frogster... i saw you complaining
on the iceblade thread "oh no dont nerf me pls thats my only rape skill i have"

^not asked anything dont reply

You have 16K int and 80K hp unbuffed and you're complaining that you can't buy your gear? O.o You should be able to actually.. RUN tosh with those stats.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559803"

its not ur problem how i play the game ... i want to frogster put ABLS on ITEM SHOP ...

if you dont have any positive things to say stop replying thx

I play this game for siege ... its not like im naked on RoM .. unbuffed i reach 16k intel/80k hp ...

also you dont want me to complain here.. and where the hell i going to contact frogster... i saw you complaining
on the iceblade thread "oh no dont nerf me pls thats my only rape skill i have"

^not asked anything dont reply

Sure, you are allowed to play the game in whichever way you want. Power to the people huh? But when you say that you can't progress because there are no ABLs in the game, that is a false statement. Undoubtedly, having ABLs would be nicer. But, you can progress fine without ABLs.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559809"

i bet theres a lot of ppl on artemis .. waiting for abls to sell their items..

ok.. i can do some dps.. but who going to tank? maybe theres 1 on my guild and we have 12hrs difference...
what about the heals? kef have another toon druid/wd .. he cant just heal and dps at the same time wiithout droping dps/heals

anyway this is not why i made the thread.. all i want is abls


this is not like the old time when you used to farm ur staff of admiration you now need a group with semi endgame gear to be able to run something - moving to another guild is not my type

Yes, I'm sure there's plenty of people on every server waiting for ABLs to sell their items as well. If you don't have enough people to run, recruit. It's as simple as that. If there are no people looking for guilds, then you have to build from within. Heals is the easiest. You can be Chapter 3 end game statted and heal AC fine. Tank is more tough, find one, or help a guildie out and build together. That's how almost all end game guilds started. Helping each other build. The way you named your thread and what you wrote in the first post would lead to a discussion like this. You could have made a thread named Froggie sell me ABLs! and said I want ABLs so I can spend more money! And people would say Great! or Me too! And that would be a thread that would stay on that topic. The way you started this thread was not leaning towards that topic but the topic of people QQing that they can't progress because they can't buy stuff from the AH. That's why you now see the replies here in this thread.

Quoted from "Jake2120;559816"

ok understand what you saying ....i used wrong words to start the thread (i speak spanish)

but at my style of playing this game thats not possible... we can recruit ppl... some stop playing becouse they see how bad froggy handles the game.. some stay and just want to go dps the fun class

and i dont think a alredy stated tanker want to join us...

its still froggy fault for not adver this game better...

ppl that join this game is becouse they see rom on the top f2p games.. then they see to reach endgame you have to empty ur wallet and they stop playing

Yea, the game is extremely expensive to keep moving on. And most people that attempt the game do quit, unless they have become endgame already by dumping a lot of money into the game. But the way you play, I would consider you more to be a casual player. Play whenever and not really pushing for end game. If you play with that mentality then you really won't be reaching end game anytime soon. But there is nothing wrong with that because you play for fun. As long as you're having fun it's all cool. Isn't that what games are all about? So yea, you want ABLs to go on sale because you either only enjoy playing once a while, or you have too much restraint on time and are unable to push content yourself. You want to buy end game gear because you don't have the time to farm it. And yes, the lack of ABLs do hurt casual gamers such as yourself and mid-game level players. But for a mid-gamer that is pushing for end game, it isn't that bad.

With 16k int and 80k mattack unbuff. Jake you should be able to handle tosh fine. They will not put abl back In Cs as a permanent item and that's for sure. You could only stock up on them when they are available. That's the way it is now.

This is like epeen thread, aint it. "Oh, yeah, well I run Tosh with DOD statted gear". "Pshaw, I run it in dirty statted DOD gear". "You guys are such newbs. I run tosh in quest gear. And it was underdura too."

Some people get better use of their gear than others. Two toons of same class and similar gear can generate very different amount of DPS. Yes, one player is better than other one, being able to take better advantage of buffs, keep better track of battlefield situation, have better rotation, etc. That does not mean everyone can do it. A person who plays his toon to 80%-85% of his capacity may need the gear from instance (and stats from better instance) to clear instance. Or maybe he is in small guild and can't quite master getting a run with 11 other OP toons.

Sure, there is a point at which you can say "L2P, noob" and be justified in your assessment of player's current capability. There are some people who are bad at this. C students or worse. But, for many B, B+ or A- players, what OP is asking for is not at all unreasonable and saying "well, I could do better with what gear you have" is rather elitist epeen display.

Quoted from "CROMI80;559828"

With 16k int and 80k mattack unbuff. Jake you should be able to handle tosh fine. They will not put abl back In Cs as a permanent item and that's for sure. You could only stock up on them when they are available. That's the way it is now.

Itemshop changes happen I don't think you can say for sure that's how things are going to be unless you've been having discussions lately with the sales staff, from an outsiders perspective having an item that's higher priced for sale all the time is good for people who aren't patient for sales.

They can only sell ABLs for so high as is and they wouldn't be able to call it a sale if they charged more for them than we've paid in the past, anyways this is a topic about "Please have an ABL Sale" not whether he can do ToSH or not lol...

Quoted from "vfwiffo;559837"

This is like epeen thread, aint it. "Oh, yeah, well I run Tosh with DOD statted gear". "Pshaw, I run it in dirty statted DOD gear". "You guys are such newbs. I run tosh in quest gear. And it was underdura too."

Some people get better use of their gear than others. Two toons of same class and similar gear can generate very different amount of DPS. Yes, one player is better than other one, being able to take better advantage of buffs, keep better track of battlefield situation, have better rotation, etc. That does not mean everyone can do it. A person who plays his toon to 80%-85% of his capacity may need the gear from instance (and stats from better instance) to clear instance. Or maybe he is in small guild and can't quite master getting a run with 11 other OP toons.

Sure, there is a point at which you can say "L2P, noob" and be justified in your assessment of player's current capability. There are some people who are bad at this. C students or worse. But, for many B, B+ or A- players, what OP is asking for is not at all unreasonable and saying "well, I could do better with what gear you have" is rather elitist epeen display.

+1

You pretty much said it all. As for me I don't even have 2 solid hours to play on the weekdays. I'm P2P, I have more money then time so I buy gear on AH. Would I like to run instances, absolutely. But working 6 days a week its few and far between. Doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to play, I just know it's going to cost me more.

My real problem ATM, is my warlock, on ebil I can farm stats easy, I can buy puris easy, and I have some nice DL gear. But it's all +4. Yeah I don't have the 3k rubies I need. So I am missing a good chunck of stats.

So how do I get good gear for my warlock? Buying it in AH i can do piece by piece. Its sort of like they just wanted mages to unbind their gear and transfer it.

Quoted from "Kefkai;559841"

Itemshop changes happen I don't think you can say for sure that's how things are going to be unless you've been having discussions lately with the sales staff, from an outsiders perspective having an item that's higher priced for sale all the time is good for people who aren't patient for sales.

They can only sell ABLs for so high as is and they wouldn't be able to call it a sale if they charged more for them than we've paid in the past, anyways this is a topic about "Please have an ABL Sale" not whether he can do ToSH or not lol...

Well I just saying with that kind of int and mattack, he could do tosh and hopefully get him what he need and can save some diamonds for other stuff other than waiting for ABL.
Well i would want ABL in Cs as a permanent item but can't see that happening .

Quoted from "vfwiffo;559837"

This is like epeen thread, aint it. "Oh, yeah, well I run Tosh with DOD statted gear". "Pshaw, I run it in dirty statted DOD gear". "You guys are such newbs. I run tosh in quest gear. And it was underdura too."

Some people get better use of their gear than others. Two toons of same class and similar gear can generate very different amount of DPS. Yes, one player is better than other one, being able to take better advantage of buffs, keep better track of battlefield situation, have better rotation, etc. That does not mean everyone can do it. A person who plays his toon to 80%-85% of his capacity may need the gear from instance (and stats from better instance) to clear instance. Or maybe he is in small guild and can't quite master getting a run with 11 other OP toons.

Sure, there is a point at which you can say "L2P, noob" and be justified in your assessment of player's current capability. There are some people who are bad at this. C students or worse. But, for many B, B+ or A- players, what OP is asking for is not at all unreasonable and saying "well, I could do better with what gear you have" is rather elitist epeen display.

I didn't turn this into an epeen thread at all. The way the OP designed this thread, was to say that it was impossible to progress without ABLs even though that was not his intent. He admitted that English is not his native language and I understand. He meant he just wants Froggie to sell ABLs, so he can buy gear since he doesn't have time to invest in clearing content, which is cool. People that could relate to him would then post and say the same. They are busy with RL or blah blah. However I didn't know that wasn't his intent until later on. So until that point I said, Yes, You can progress fine without ABL and lower level gear. If I left it at that, others would reply, No you're lying or I need an example blah blah. So I used myself as an example. I cleared an end game instance without the best gear. Done. Never did I say I was the best DPS or i carried the party or anything along those lines. I was on the bottom of the scrutinizer on every boss fight in Group 2. (Magical DPS or lower Physical DPS group). My posts aren't me flexing my epeen at all. It's just me stating facts. You can progress fine without the best gear. I did it in ZS/DL/RT gear, other can try it with Shell/RT gear. Not once did I say You are fail you can't do it like I can blah blah. All I'm saying is give it a try with what you have. You will be surprised at what you can do. But don't wipe 10 times and say o, I don't have enough gear to do this. You do. Our first attempts consisted of well over a thousand wipes before finally clearing.