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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 8:48am

... c'mon people be honest we all know hard mode wasnt meant for everyone its meant for the ones who have truly sunk time&money into the game enough to out gear the instance. they exist to keep current endgamers around and to feed diamond sales. which results in keeping mid gamers and newbies playing. For example, mid gamer sees a bleeding edge endgamer and checks his gear, then has his mind blown. then he thinks hmm i wanna have a pimp'd out toon like that how can i do it(invest craploads of time and money) but since the majority of people who catch the "gotta be the best bug" cant keep up the momentum they end up spending money on dias and fall into the mid gamer slot are they over joyed? NO, but are they still spending ? YES! all with hopes of being as good or better then the next guy, and this is amplified by the entity know as siege. point is its all a ploy (to sell diamonds) hard mode & endgamers are the bait and midgamers are the prey

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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 8:58am

Frogster, I can't progress either, being F2P when you guys have sales.. (once ina blue moon) I can't find a dia seller or don't have the gold. As a once endgamer I'm falling behind because of your scarce sales and no abl's.. Also with much less time to play.Imiss Frosgter US, whenthey would give usgood sales 1-2 times a month.
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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 3:41pm

Abls were like a once a month thing with frogster US. Maybe you are thinking of frogster EU?
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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 4:46pm

Quoted from "Winston;561698"

Abls were like a once a month thing with frogster US. Maybe you are thinking of frogster EU?


ABL's were a permanent item in the item shop with Frogster US. You could even get them with tokens.

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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 5:33pm

Hrm even in ch 2?
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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 5:40pm

Quoted from "Winston;561722"

Hrm even in ch 2?


yerp they were perm. I cry every night thinking how much easier it would be to get gear on the US side :P

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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 5:43pm

Quoted from "ChaosArmored;561728"

yerp they were perm. I cry every night thinking how much easier it would be to get gear on the US side :P


Not in chapter 2..didn't they not become perm until end of 3? Beginning of 4?
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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 5:45pm

That is what I am saying ch 3 was Frogster US. Wasn't ch 4 Frogster EU not US?
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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 5:47pm

I don't remember them being permanent before I quit, and that was mid ch4. Coming back to them being taken out of the item shop really didn't make a difference for me, since I wasn't around when they were in abundance.

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Tuesday, July 31st 2012, 6:09pm

Quoted from "Winston;561734"

That is what I am saying ch 3 was Frogster US. Wasn't ch 4 Frogster EU not US?


I think only part of CH4 is EU. Becuase I came in very late in CH3, and CH4 came out when I was only lv 35, but I had plenty of time to come on forums and QQ about Frogster US sales and gearing up at lv 55.

And seriously... give us ABL's back in the Token Shop so I can sell those new GCH drops that don't sell for much anymore now that I can get them T_T
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Wednesday, August 1st 2012, 12:51am

Quoted from "Winston;561698"

Abls were like a once a month thing with frogster US. Maybe you are thinking of frogster EU?


They were in fact only sales items in chapter 3. theybecame perm in ch4 butthe thing is theyd sellabls 1-2 times a month at least so it wasnt a big dealnow its1-2 timesevery3-4 months.. cant upgrade or nothing really. Like this weekend, i had gold right? i needed abls and cleaners, couldn't fidna dia seller, not one.. so once again im sol on upgrading and wont be able to try foranothercleaner or abl in prolly2 months.
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Wednesday, August 1st 2012, 1:08am

Quoted from "gigilomann;561827"

They were in fact only sales items in chapter 3. theybecame perm in ch4 butthe thing is theyd sellabls 1-2 times a month at least so it wasnt a big dealnow its1-2 timesevery3-4 months.. cant upgrade or nothing really. Like this weekend, i had gold right? i needed abls and cleaners, couldn't fidna dia seller, not one.. so once again im sol on upgrading and wont be able to try foranothercleaner or abl in prolly2 months.


They only changed it 2 and a half months ago. There have been 2 abl sales since. That's one every 1.25 months.
I played chapters 2 & 3, wasn't around for ch 4 so the fact that everyone is in such an outrage over this kinda makes me laugh.

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Wednesday, August 1st 2012, 1:13am

Quoted from "Goliwog;561829"

They only changed it 2 and a half months ago. There have been 2 abl sales since. That's one every 1.25 months.
I played chapters 2 & 3, wasn't around for ch 4 so the fact that everyone is in such an outrage over this kinda makes me laugh.

It does make things a bit harder. Yeah, thats the way chapter 2 and 3 were, i was there for that too. ABLs were on sale rarely, and all my gearing was done by running instances with my guild. But this isnt chapter 3. We dont get all of our stats from doing DoD, and we dont get our best gear out of DL. At the time we were level 60 and the best gear was in a level 65 instance. At lvl 72 our best gear is in level 70 and 72 instances. Its different. On reni, there is only one guild that can clear tosh, 2 guilds that can do annnelia, 2 that can do vn.....How did the rest of the server get their gear? From what we sold wih abls in the ah.

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Wednesday, August 1st 2012, 1:46am

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;561830"

It does make things a bit harder. Yeah, thats the way chapter 2 and 3 were, i was there for that too. ABLs were on sale rarely, and all my gearing was done by running instances with my guild. But this isnt chapter 3. We dont get all of our stats from doing DoD, and we dont get our best gear out of DL. At the time we were level 60 and the best gear was in a level 65 instance. At lvl 72 our best gear is in level 70 and 72 instances. Its different. On reni, there is only one guild that can clear tosh, 2 guilds that can do annnelia, 2 that can do vn.....How did the rest of the server get their gear? From what we sold wih abls in the ah.


I think in many cases the term "can do" should be interpreted to mean "can farm" My guild -can- do high level instances, but we can't farm them.

ABLs make it possible to gear up well enough to farm an instance without ever having been inside it, not having the gear from that instance will not keep you from doing it. being a special sale item does make it a bit more difficult to gear up, because you can't just go farm dog meat then visit the AH for your next set of gear.

I don't feel that having the ABLs as occasional specials will kill the game or stop players from progressing.
Since mentos, shells and justice coins have been introduced there is really no reason to farm an instance for stats.

If there's an item on sale that I need, if I don't have diamonds, or can't find a buyer, it doesn't take long to run up and get a zeevex card, ultimate game card, or use my credit card to get them. If you refuse to buy diamonds with rl cash so you can progress, it's a personal choice and can't be blamed on anyone else.