Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "tmblake09;560202"

Lol why, that would be utterly retarded honey. I was the one saying that if your COMBINATION is made to do something, then you should by all means be allowed to do it that way. Priest/Scout is made to have a DPS aspect to it, so it should be allowed to DPS. Warden/Mage was NOT made to have a tanking aspect to it, it just benefit from the warden generals enough to manage.

Ok, "honey" since your a warden expert please explain how I'm not suppose to be able to tank as wrd/mage. It's not like i've played wrd/m since chp2 or anything. Wrd/m also has the aspect to be able to tank just like P/S has the aspect to be a DPS cause it has a few DPS skills. So your argument in that respect is flawed. After all since i had a leet skill that gave me a hefty regen along with the pdef allows me to tank. Would be like saying R/S shouldn't be tanking but guess what... they do. You just remind me of someone on Osha and he is a "Flavor" or the month kid ie whatever OP or new class is there, then thats what he plays. So blake untill you can show me valid reasons for NOT being able to tank as wrd/m please keep yourself in the land of unicorns and pink rabbits which you call home.

One of the best things if not the only thing is, the versitilty of this game, as far as gearing and stat'ing and playing whatever class combo that you want. So to tell me that im NOT suppose to have a tanking aspect is just pure BS and you know it.

Have a Nice Day Fanboi or Fangirl whatever you are

Quoted from "Blkkntdave;560304"

Ok, "honey" since your a warden expert please explain how I'm not suppose to be able to tank as wrd/mage. It's not like i've played wrd/m since chp2 or anything. Wrd/m also has the aspect to be able to tank just like P/S has the aspect to be a DPS cause it has a few DPS skills. So your argument in that respect is flawed. After all since i had a leet skill that gave me a hefty regen along with the pdef allows me to tank. Would be like saying R/S shouldn't be tanking but guess what... they do. You just remind me of someone on Osha and he is a "Flavor" or the month kid ie whatever OP or new class is there, then thats what he plays. So blake untill you can show me valid reasons for NOT being able to tank as wrd/m please keep yourself in the land of unicorns and pink rabbits which you call home.

One of the best things if not the only thing is, the versitilty of this game, as far as gearing and stat'ing and playing whatever class combo that you want. So to tell me that im NOT suppose to have a tanking aspect is just pure BS and you know it.

Have a Nice Day Fanboi or Fangirl whatever you are

Your elite skills were NEVER made for you to tank. P/K's have regen and a pdef buff, I don't see them tanking. Your class combination was made for DPS, you just decided to utilize what skills the warden itself had at the time to go against your class combination.

Ok, only tanks wear plate
knight wear plate = tank
warden wear plate = tank
warden and knight = tank
ok that is the best I can to put it in simple form. If you have anymore doubts, we need to RUNEWHACKER to verify.

Quoted from "CROMI80;560389"

Ok, only tanks wear plate
knight wear plate = tank
warden wear plate = tank
warden and knight = tank
ok that is the best I can to put it in simple form. If you have anymore doubts, we need to RUNEWHACKER to verify.

But what about Champion? Lol they wear chain but get a huge buff to their defense to make up for it o.O Saw a Champion with 299k hp lol

So champion use chain and have high def buff = tank
warden use plates with good def buff ( b4 the nerf) = tank
so.... They are both tank ..

Quoted from "CROMI80;560395"

So champion use chain and have high def buff = tank
warden use plates with good def buff ( b4 the nerf) = tank
so.... They are both tank ..

only warden/warrior could use plate, and now the defense buff is minuscule compared to before, so the combination that could actually tank can no longer do so.

Well, there we go, warden was a good tank b4 they did a " balancing"( retarted nerf) to warden.
So, RUNEWHACKER reverse the "balancing " you did, and we can close this thread. Wardens can happily tank, champion can happily tank. I can happily not pull aggro and tank when I run instance.

Quoted from "tmblake09;560381"

Your elite skills were NEVER made for you to tank. P/K's have regen and a pdef buff, I don't see them tanking. Your class combination was made for DPS, you just decided to utilize what skills the warden itself had at the time to go against your class combination.

Are you still not getting it? Seriously? Wrd/m had an elete skill that gave wrd/m only a 3550 hp regen every 5 secs. And you more then likey have never ran with with a good P/K, ummm they tank all the time. The name of your toon Magetanks implies that you intend to tank with it. A mage tank? really? Please do everyone a favor blake and go back to your land of cotton and kittens and stop being a troll...

And btw blake you still haven't come up with a valid or logical reason as to why a Wrd/m can't tank. Till then StFU it noob....

Tank with whatever you want to. Please keep in mind that tanking is an expensive profession in ROM, before you spend all that $$ and time in instances getting gears you need to pick a decent combo that will work well for what you plan on tanking.
It's not only expensive to build a tank, it's expensive to run and if your good at it you will be needed alot.

Wardens IMO didn't see overly op or need any changes that I was aware of and why the sudden nerf.
I know someone that spent last few months running as DPS gathering tanking gears and suffered upgrading his dps side (which could have surely been top dps)
He spent all his resources and finished his gears and tanked a few weeks and then this sudden nerf came.
His tank wasn't overly op or needing any nerfs and now he lost a fortune with a subpar tank now
Big investment and got no returns
Not like the server is full fo tanks either

That the freaking big "?" very 1 has about the nerf.
Yea, a lot of ppl has been stating their warden to tank for Instances. This bs nerf fiesta RUNEWHACKER pull did nothing good for us but damn lot of damage. We are losing so much players since the missing chest bs. Up to now, they have make so much bad decision that make more players feel disheartened and left for good.
A lot of us really have no ideal what future froggie and RUNEWHACKER wants for this game. You want to keep it going with lots of happy players who pour it money happily to enjoy te game.
Or you guys just want to squeeze as much you possibly can and abandon ship.

Quoted from "Blkkntdave;560420"

Are you still not getting it? Seriously? Wrd/m had an elete skill that gave wrd/m only a 3550 hp regen every 5 secs. And you more then likey have never ran with with a good P/K, ummm they tank all the time. The name of your toon Magetanks implies that you intend to tank with it. A mage tank? really? Please do everyone a favor blake and go back to your land of cotton and kittens and stop being a troll...

And btw blake you still haven't come up with a valid or logical reason as to why a Wrd/m can't tank. Till then StFU it noob....

Lol if you think a person's name is any indication as to their character's playstyle, you are very very very very mistaken. Many rogue/scouts now make almost no sense with names they made when they were scout/rogues. My name was made when I was intending to be a mage/champion. I thought the name was cute and easy to remember, so I combined mage (my first class) with the role of champion (my second class). I got the idea from my previous character, a priest/champion, who I aptly named Healtanks. Does that mean I ever had any intention of tanking with them? Not at all. I very much plan to DPS as my mage/warlock (who BTW is already critting for 500k and not even close to end-game yet).

I never said a warden/mage couldn't tank, I said they shouldn't tank. You're the one who said they can't now

And btw I used to be a good p/k. My group heals crit for 230k. Needless to say, I was able to tank. Do I SEE them tanking? No, I see real tanking classes tanking. Can they tank? Yes. There's a reason priests are always the first to solo instances; because they can heal themselves.

Quoted from "tmblake09;560143"

Although I disagree with almost anything the GM's said in this thread, I will point out that Nytefall stated they are trying to make the Warden gearing style the same across all Warden combos. Warden/Druid is not meant to heal, if you want to heal play a Druid/Warden. Warden/Mage is also not broken. The only Warden combo that was broken by the patch was Warden/Warrior, and THAT is the combination that almost everyone is complaining about. There are very few Wardens who are displeased with the changes as a whole.

And per your final comment. Um, yeah? We wouldn't be playing anything, not even this very badly put together game, if it was not expensive to play. They wouldn't be able to keep it running. Get more people playing, then the prices will be more reasonable. We've seen it before. However, with the current number of people playing, there is no way we could pay what we used to and keep the game going.

Wrdn/Druids were not supposed to heal? Really? So why do I have an elite that turns my Charged Chop into an AOE heal? Why did I used to have a lvl 50 elite that was an AOE HoT? If Wrdn/Druids were not supposed to heal then why were most of my abilities heal based? Sure I am not a healer that will keep your group alive on my own but with my Defensive Blade, Nature Crystal, and my elite upgraded Charged Chop, I made life for the healer a lot easier. Sure my Crystal Heal was a broken ability but it showed as a Wrdn/Druid I was supposed to have healing capabilities. Who are you to say I am not?

They should have just fixed my lvl 50 elite to make it viable rather than replacing it with a taunt I will never ever put into my action bar. What they could have done, since I never use my Spirit of the Oak anyway, remove Magic Control and replace it with the taunt. I would like my HoT back. Also, currently Magic Control isn't even functioning. So, no, Wrdn/War was not the only class combo that was broken. I now have an elite in my spell book that cannot be cast any longer. (Not that I used it anyway but just saying)

What a bunch of temper tantrums. 0.o

I can speak from a somewhat similar standpoint as a mage. When they broke the caster classes in 4.0.5, it was almost impossible to play my class as it should be played. Between line of sight and the one second cooldown addition to all of my skills, I couldn't dps worth a damn.

And it was hard to wait for them to fix it. Because regardless of the build, gear, or who ever it was I chose to run with, I couldn't find a group that could clear GCH. The healers couldn't heal fast enough. The casters couldn't dps enough. And for weeks, we did anything we could to get them to change it.

Then, in what was almost record time for Runewaker, a change came. And not only did it come... but it worked.

Try to be a little patient. Runewaker will get a rebalance in for the wardens that will fix the current combos. But if they rush it, there's every chance that they'll simply break the combos more with bad coding.