Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "1stfaze;561844"

lol omg will everyone stop and think about what they are saying, "hey i know you guys just issued a mini nerf to wardens, but do you think that you can nerf them a lil more" lol wow, besides CC really only helped w/wdn the most, but i guess warriors will somehow magically turn into the new ch 3 scouts cuz they are soooo viable in pvp and pve
really it doesnt make them uber in siege(lets face it its still a warrior) maybe a little better on the scrut but thats it

Quoted from "1stfaze;561844"

lol omg will everyone stop and think about what they are saying, "hey i know you guys just issued a mini nerf to wardens, but do you think that you can nerf them a lil more" lol wow, besides CC really only helped w/wdn the most, but i guess warriors will somehow magically turn into the new ch 3 scouts cuz they are soooo viable in pvp and pve
really it doesnt make them uber in siege(lets face it its still a warrior) maybe a little better on the scrut but thats it

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561845"

Little better on the scrut? Little better? My DPS more than doubled on the scrut. R/S's that I used to tie in DPS doesn't even come close. When you have a skill that doesn't have GCD, especially one that is stronger than EVERY SINGLE SKILL OF THE CLASS. It makes the class combination OP. So did W/Wdn, R/Wdn just become CH 3 scouts? Yes. Yes they did. There just aren't enough of us in the game to the extent that there were scouts to see it on a similar scale.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;561847"

And just wondering... Can you out DPS the T7 +16 clean statted people in TOSH-H now with dirty statted gear + CC lol.

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561845"

Little better on the scrut? Little better? My DPS more than doubled on the scrut. R/S's that I used to tie in DPS doesn't even come close. When you have a skill that doesn't have GCD, especially one that is stronger than EVERY SINGLE SKILL OF THE CLASS. It makes the class combination OP. So did W/Wdn, R/Wdn just become CH 3 scouts? Yes. Yes they did. There just aren't enough of us in the game to the extent that there were scouts to see it on a similar scale.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;561849"

Think about it this way bangs: they buffed the shit out of dps wardens and nerfed warden tanks. So we want the opposite now. nerf dps wardens, buff tank wardens, and buff r/wn.

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561850"

Yea I'd say put CC back on that 3 sec CD still keep it as an instant and actually apply GCD and that would make things better for DPS Wdns and x/Wdns without being too OP. And yea buff tank Wardens.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;561856"

that would actually kill a r/wn dps >.< i think CC works fine as it is right now.

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561857"

Problem is that you're relying on a secondary class's skill to make your class. That itself is wrong. Making your class should be primary+elite skill with secondary skills just as a filler. CC needs fix and R/Wdn needs fix but those fixes will be independent.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;561860"

Does the rogue/warden elite "Crazed Creed" make up for Combat Master for a rogue/scout?

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561861"

Crazed Creed - 10% Crit Dmg increase when maxed I believe
Combat Master- 60% Crit Dmg increase + XXX Crit.

Not even close.

Quoted from "Kefkai;561862"

Don't forget that you have to add in the /Wd Patk boost, the classes aren't the same.

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561857"

Problem is that you're relying on a secondary class's skill to make your class. That itself is wrong. Making your class should be primary+elite skill with secondary skills just as a filler. CC needs fix and R/Wdn needs fix but those fixes will be independent.

Quoted from "Kefkai;561859"

I'm glad that someone else besides me sees how OP /Wd is right now, and yeah R/Wd's biggest problem is it's elites aren't that great, there's no reason that those shouldn't be reworked instead of relying on a skill that has higher dps as lowblow that's spammable with no CD.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;561860"

Does the rogue/warden elite "Crazed Creed" make up for Combat Master for a rogue/scout?

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561857"

Problem is that you're relying on a secondary class's skill to make your class. That itself is wrong. Making your class should be primary+elite skill with secondary skills just as a filler. CC needs fix and R/Wdn needs fix but those fixes will be independent.

Quoted from "Kefkai;561859"

I'm glad that someone else besides me sees how OP /Wd is right now, and yeah R/Wd's biggest problem is it's elites aren't that great, there's no reason that those shouldn't be reworked instead of relying on a skill that has higher dps as lowblow that's spammable with no CD.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;561860"

Does the rogue/warden elite "Crazed Creed" make up for Combat Master for a rogue/scout?

Quoted from "L3g3nd;561865"

Does the patt boost beat R/K's 15% patt boost?

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;561866"

I think this is perfectly acceptable. An elite skill can make or break r/s, so why cant a single secondy skill make or break r/wn? Its the same thing. I still use ALL of my rogue skills, but a spammable secondary is what makes rogue classes. Thats why rogue/s and r/wn and r/k are viable dps. because they have a skill they can spam. Look at r/p. Great elites, 30% crit rate to wound attackk...but has trouble keeping up with no secondary spammable skills.

Quoted from "L3g3nd;561867"

I'm looking at the rogue/warden elites. Which is the one that gives the 17% patt bonus?

Quoted from "mikkehboii;561869"

Warden General skill. Savage Power. 30 second buff

Quoted from "L3g3nd;561870"

But in PvP I'd be going 1 minute without that effect and 30 seconds with the effect since the CD is 1.5 mins whereas Combat Master, I get it the entire time. =/

I can see how it is more preferable in PvE though.