Runes of Magic US / AU

Yeah, the level of stupidity from some players never ceases to astound me!

My guild on Osha suffered silly world shouts a couple of weeks back. I think the whisper/shout you got are carbon copies.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;567732"

We went against another guild on our server (Govinda) last night, and they starting crying hax, and bring quite rude about it too, over lag spikes (seriously, i play SW with only 5 FPS and half my skills don't activate unless I spam click them till my fingers break, and you telling me you're lagging???), gate repair glitching, immunes, although mostly general statements that said basicly nothing.

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Was extremely depressing to see the fact that despite all the effort spent on the forums to try to educate people to stop crying hax, and look for other possibilities, there are still inconsiderate people that don't even give those topics a glance or even bother to make a new thread here and ask before crying hax and ruining siege for everyone.

Really makes me ashamed to be on this server.

Sorry but being in a guild (not last night) that has fought you, and you specifically using the line of sight glitch on the gates to thunderstorm well beyond normal range from outside the gates, I'd have to agree with that guild last night. Your guild is also slowly becoming known as a hack guild on the server.

Quoted from "Ziav;567775"

Sorry but being in a guild (not last night) that has fought you, and you specifically using the line of sight glitch on the gates to thunderstorm well beyond normal range from outside the gates, I'd have to agree with that guild last night. Your guild is also slowly becoming known as a hack guild on the server.

That's not a hack.. it's not even necessarily a glitch. It's how all targetted aoe's work. Shatterstar Storm and Sandstormw ould do the samet hing.

Quoted from "Borella;567777"

That's not a hack.. it's not even necessarily a glitch. It's how all targetted aoe's work. Shatterstar Storm and Sandstormw ould do the samet hing.

Really? So you are telling me that there is a legit way to extend range on thunderstorm? Myself and a few other healers were at max range from the gate using urgent heal (220 iirc) and we were all hit by the OP with thunderstorm when the range on that skill is 180. Please explain to me how that is perfectly legit because I'm sorry I just don't see your math.

I know you can ts the gates and slightly beyond them, but there is no possible way to be hitting people inside the castle, well beyond the max range of the skill used to hit those people.

No hack exists to extend the range on skills, it simply doesn't exist. So yes, it is legit.

I'm a squishy little mage in siege war. Hell, I'm squishy regardless of wherever I happen to be in this game.

I don't waste my time crying hax if someone kills me, or if I see someone doing something they (in my opinion) should not be capable of doing, like flying across the top of the screen or sitting inside their castle walls, shooting players. I just rez up and get my squishy little mage butt back up the field to go take a gate down, kill people who aren't acting that way, take a tower, eliminate defenses- whatever the guild needs done, where it needs done.

At the end of every siege, I ask myself if I did the best job I could possibly do, given the lag and the other people on the field. If the answer is yes, and we lost anyway, am I going to go complain about it in world chat or log onto that person's server just to vent frustrations? Hell no. I'll get another shot at that guild, probably in the near future. It isn't as if I'll never be matched up against them again. I started making it a personal goal to go back and kill those who killed me. Most of the time, I succeed.

If my guild and I won that night, there's usually some form of accusation being thrown around as to what was or wasn't "right".

You have a choice to make. You can shrug it off and siege again, or sit there and stew every time something doesn't go the way you think it should, and/or make an arse out of yourself by posting it for all of ROM to laugh at. I know which method I use.

Quoted from "Ziav;567779"

Really? So you are telling me that there is a legit way to extend range on thunderstorm? Myself and a few other healers were at max range from the gate using urgent heal (220 iirc) and we were all hit by the OP with thunderstorm when the range on that skill is 180. Please explain to me how that is perfectly legit because I'm sorry I just don't see your math.

Thunderstorms range "is" 180, but thats the center of the aoe (maybe more or less), the radius of the aoe extends more than that. Can get around 225 or so.

Mages thunderstorming through the gate is a little stupid, but healing the gate and not being able to stop that is also stupid like most things in siege.

I've had mages thunderstorm me though gates and not care about doing it, but its funny when people do something similar to those said mages they cry hacks ( and priest, and other classes too lol ).

Think i've been called a hacker more times than i've killed people in siege lol.

My motto is if i'm being called a hacker, im doing something right!

My motto is just dont siege. Between the other guild and my own calling each other hackers, it's just a depressing part of the game.

Quoted from "Borella;567780"

No hack exists to extend the range on skills, it simply doesn't exist. So yes, it is legit.

I know there is no legit way to extend range, that was sarcasm, and I'm sorry, it's still not legit to be hitting from well beyond the range of the skill.

Guilds need to stop crying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnVRnHBW…be_gdata_player and learn to play

@ruisen2000. I've sieged your guild before and I can say that u guys don't hack. You always give us a fair fight. If anyone says otherwise they're probably just butthurt.

Quoted from "pwnsnoobs;567784"

Thunderstorms range "is" 180, but thats the center of the aoe (maybe more or less), the radius of the aoe extends more than that. Can get around 225 or so.

This. Other than this, there is no way to "extend" the range of thunderstorm. Using the above method, but with my Healing Arrows, I can hit someone (I'll use WA as an example) from one side of WA arena, to the other side. Same applies to Thunderstorm. It is not a cheat/hack/exploit, its just how the skill works.

Calling a whole guild hackers is just sad when they're using a spell/skill that is unaltered and working as it is coded.

Chances are, if theyre at your gate, and you're being thunderstormed to death - you're losing siege. Which explains why Ziav is so able to call Ruisen's guild hackers. Accept defeat and move on people.

Quoted from "Ravesden;567792"

This. Other than this, there is no way to "extend" the range of thunderstorm. Using the above method, but with my Healing Arrows, I can hit someone (I'll use WA as an example) from one side of WA arena, to the other side. Same applies to Thunderstorm. It is not a cheat/hack/exploit, its just how the skill works.

Calling a whole guild hackers is just sad when they're using a spell/skill that is unaltered and working as it is coded.

Chances are, if theyre at your gate, and you're being thunderstormed to death - you're losing siege. Which explains why Ziav is so able to call Ruisen's guild hackers. Accept defeat and move on people.

Ok so, since out entire SERVER is calling them out for cheating, I'm the one who's wrong here? Wow. I'm speachless. You weren't there, you have zero knowledge of what happened. I've never seen so many people defend cheaters. It's no wonder siege is so full of them these days.

My guild was abused in world shout a while back after a home server siege.

We were accused of using that well known hax program.

The reason? We steamrolled the other guild, pure & simple. During the siege both sides lagged bad & rubber-banded constantly.
Both sides rubber-banded mainly because the guild we were easily beating put dozens of flame towers inside their castle.

If the number of flame towers it is possible to put down was limited we would all have smoother sieges & fewer ppl might be calling hax.

For my part, I discourage anyone in my guild that starts to talk about hax in raidcall & get quite annoyed if anyone takes it to say chat. Siege is better all round if we just deal with any situation that we meet as best we can because we all know there is little we can do to change anything.

Quoted from "Ziav;567796"

Ok so, since out entire SERVER is calling them out for cheating, I'm the one who's wrong here? Wow. I'm speachless. You weren't there, you have zero knowledge of what happened. I've never seen so many people defend cheaters. It's no wonder siege is so full of them these days.

Entire server, huh? You mean each guild, each and every guild, on your server, call them out for cheating in world? I *highly* doubt that. Maybe you and another person from a sore losing guild agreed, but that does not mean the "entire server" agreed.

Same argument could be you as well. Were you there during your "entire server's" sieges? Do you have any first-person knowledge of what happened? I highly doubt it.

And no, people defending others' has no correlation with siege being "full of cheaters." To the contrary, very few guilds/individuals I've faced have used a cheat. I've been playing this game for over 2 years, and I can count on my fingers how many times I've personally witnessed a cheat. Especially when the "cheating" you mention is not a cheat. Enough with the fallacies and exaggeration. Admit defeat and grow up.

Quoted from "ruisen2000;567852"

I disagree, because its the minority that cries hax as far as I've seen. The majority of the players who are able to take siege responsiblely shouldn't have to suffer because a minority who can't.



T-Storm isn't hitting beyond its range, you're misunderstanding how it works. 180 range for T-Storm does not mean that it can only hit anything thats within a range of 180, it means that it can be casted 180 range away from the caster and hit everything in that area over there.



The 'entire" server? There was 2 or 3 people in world chat complaining that we were cheating because they lost. The rest of the people were just making troll posts like "My guild is in the honor crystal room! hax!" and "its always people that lose who cry hax... i wonder why.." etc. The only thing i saw the entire server do was troll.




And you are probably the most creative person that I've ever seen in siege, figuring out how to jump to the roof of our library from castle walls and use it as your little command outpost to set up flames beyond our reach and T-storm us from above. It certainly gave us a big headache trying to figure out how to get you down from there. I think I might try this on the the guild mentioned in my first post the next time we siege them. They'll be crying hax so much that their heads will blow off.

I know exactly how thunderstorm works. What you did that night was indeed an exploit, but whatever makes you feel better. Yes, our entire server believes you do cheat to win, they just don't say it to your faces because they don't want to spend the next 3 hours arguing with the said cheats. Accept your guild has been labelled a cheat and move on.

Quoted from "Ziav;567875"

I know exactly how thunderstorm works. What you did that night was indeed an exploit, but whatever makes you feel better. Yes, our entire server believes you do cheat to win, they just don't say it to your faces because they don't want to spend the next 3 hours arguing with the said cheats. Accept your guild has been labelled a cheat and move on.

Accept you lost and move on

Dude.

I feel your pain. I spent one siege watching a mage tstorm inside our castle from outside with my jaw dropped, wondering how on earth he did it. And I am a mage. And I too know how tstorm works, or so I thought.

Instead of instantly calling hax (ok, I called Paz, and he promised it wasn't a hack) I went to my own guild castle on my own mage toon, closed the gates, and experimented.

Your tstorm gets blocked by the solid part of the gates. It doesn't get blocked by the big gaping holes in the gates.

If you stand just so, with your toon looking through one of the holes in the gates, you can legitimately tstorm inside someone's castle with the gate up. You don't need a hack, you don't need any illicit modifications of any kind to do it. You just need to stand in the right place.

It's limited- I mean, you can't tstorm anywhere you want inside a castle, cause line of sight won't let you. But within that limited area you can. Go get a mage and try it if you don't believe me.

It's not an exploit. Not a hack. That's how tstorm and line of sight work. And the inside of the castle isn't much more than 180 wide, so it hits almost all the way back to the keep- the mage has to have their nose pressed up to the gate to do it anyway.

I so wanted to call hax when I saw this. But it isn't.

Quoted from "mnkmurphy885;567882"

Dude.


It's not an exploit. Not a hack. That's how tstorm and line of sight work. And the inside of the castle isn't much more than 180 wide, so it hits almost all the way back to the keep- the mage has to have their nose pressed up to the gate to do it anyway.

That is actually the definition of an exploit. The gate is meant to stop line of sight, yet if you stand in just the right spot, you can get around the line of sight issue and cast through the gate. Yeah that is not an intended feature and so is an exploit. But the devs wont come flat out and call anything an exploit in siege, even when they mentioned how tretchers weren't meant to take down gates because their dmg is a left over from a change made to them and is somehow multiplied by adding more in range. Its not intended so it is actually exploiting a glitch but they wont come out and say anything left or right. They just say siege is in beta and we are working on the numerous bugs.