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Monday, September 3rd 2012, 9:14pm

Quoted from "Borella;568034"

While I think it is annoying when you face a genuine cheating guild, I don't think that it's acceptable or appropriate to call out ALL Osha guilds and call out Osha as a cheating server, because that's simply not true.


Agree with that, I'm sure every server has their share of players that hack, and I have run into a couple guilds that seem to be extremely tolerant of hacks in their ranks, but wouldn't call everyone on that server hacks.

Agree with th OP, hacks and such do ruin the fun of siege, but not everything 'goofy' in siege is a hack.

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Monday, September 3rd 2012, 9:29pm

Blame the new patch! I have been experiencing more siege lag than usual since the latest patch, half the time I am not sure if it is the other team lagging or me. A reboot usually does nothing. <shrug>

There are a lot of questionable strategies and poor sportsmanship in siege. I for one never call hacks... siege is just too broken to know how things should work. :confused:

My only real problem with siege is the guards. It makes absolutely no sense for a level 70 guard to chase down a level 40 balloon. :mad:
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Tuesday, September 4th 2012, 7:34pm

One more reason to just remove siege all together, or make it for the PvP servers only.. or at least make a new server where those of that would rather not be a part of the mess that is PvP can go play (and let us transfer our toons and all gear/etc to it). Used to be such a nice game to play, with much nicer people, before the "I killed you" attitude of the PvP peeps took over. If I wanted to subject myself to that, I'd just go play CoD on-line.

Before you say "just ignore them", it is hard to do when they are flooding the main communication methods making them useless for anything else. Not a problem sometimes, but if you are trying to put together a PUG, or trade/sale gear, get help, or just talk with people you don't know well enough to have a separate private chan with, then it does become a problem.

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Tuesday, September 4th 2012, 7:42pm

Or just don't sign up for SW, if it bothers people so much. Yes you do have that option, as crazy as it sounds. I dunno, I have pretty much gotten over the whole SW exploit/hack accusations. Been on both sides, accusing and being accused. Now if I see some strange shenanigans, I chuckle and just deal. If someone makes accusations, so be it.

I have most definitely gotten upset over certain peoples actions in SW but honestly kiddos, its a game and not worth letting some idiot ruin your experience. Or maybe to some this is RL, I don't know.........woah!!!

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Tuesday, September 4th 2012, 8:38pm

Quoted from "brogue;568155"

Or just don't sign up for SW, if it bothers people so much. Yes you do have that option, as crazy as it sounds.


While that is true, just having it adds to the overall tension, aggression, aggrivation, hostility, etc... to the entire server. I don't think it is a cross-server issue, that's why I recommend they allow it on some servers, just not all.

Back before siege, they still had PvP and PvE servers, and the vast majority of players chose to play on PvE servers. I don't know how far back these forums go, but if they go back 3 years, you can read about all of the PvP issues before they added siege, and see that they are mostly the same issues still (OP class, cheats/hacks, rude people). The main difference now is that all servers suffer from these issues, not just the PvP ones. These are issues that effect everyone, not just those that participate in siege. Just having the PvP option has attracted a different group of players to the PvE servers now, players that would have selected a PvP server prior to the siege war option. I'm not saying these are bad people or anything, but the style of gaming they want to play is different enough that it should be separate, IMO.

Personally, I play some PvP games too, and find them fun... but I don't play RoM for the PvP, and don't think I should have to be subjected to it (or my only other option is to not play RoM, or disable all chat/etc to the point I can't really play). Maybe if the RoM PvP wasn't so one-sided I would play it more, but I don't see that ever happening, so I'd rather they just remove it (at least from one server so I can go play there).

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Tuesday, September 4th 2012, 10:46pm

That lag thing is something we were accused of one time. We were both from Osha and they kept whispering about lag hacks... Sorry, our guild hates being hacked in siege so why on earth would we hack as well? A lot of the lag in siege, when it seems to revolve around the enemy, IE as soon as they come in range you start lagging bad, has to do with the amount of time the game has been running. There is something about leaving as many guild toons online as you can, and then entering siege with them. The memory leaks that have built up over the AFK time causes mass lag to anyone trying to load that toon on their screen. But that is not what my guild does. Actually we make sure to do a fresh restart before siege in hopes to cut down our own lag. Problem is, there is just a lot of coding problems in this game and when they are brought into siege, they multiply.

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Tuesday, September 4th 2012, 11:44pm

Quoted from "HolyAnarchy;568039"


There are a lot of questionable strategies and poor sportsmanship in siege. I for one never call hacks... siege is just too broken to know how things should work. :confused:


Exactly, and it's funny how many people seem to think they know so much about how the game works that "it must be a hack". If they really knew that much about the game, they should know it's full of bugs, and lag happens everywhere, not just siege. Should I call my friends hackers because they lag out in a boss fight and the party wipes? Why do you think people ask you to jump in an instance -- because the game is perfect and players never "port around"? Ohh... but that could never happen legit in siege, because siege is in BETA which means it's more stable, and the fact that it has to cross multiple servers just means there is less chance of issues because there is more network hardware involved ;)

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 12:03am

ok so is it normal that wherever you are in siege on the map, but as soon as you approach one or two of them, you start experiencing lag issues and so bad that for 5 seconds nothing moves and then boom you are dead?? hell no. If Gameforge needs to get better server for OSHA, do it. But that particular website explains exactly how they do it and too often you encouter losers who can't accept defeat. Even had a level 55 rogue one shot me and he had green gear and no runes and 8K HP, so i will call hax loll. Anyone who fought me in siege, know that is not possible, lol especially for a level 55 ;-) with no gear.

But enough of this, we know people cheat and hack and hopefully Gameforge gets to that issue eventually.

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 12:33am

Quoted from "zidlef;568240"

If Gameforge needs to get better server for OSHA, do it.


Since when is there only one guild on Osha? Just because you run into a guild on another server that is hacking, doesn't mean every guild on that server hacks. That's just not logical.

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 12:46am

Lol this crying hack stuff in seige is ridiculous. the crying of people hacking, and the actual people that do hack is ridiculous.
This is one of the reasons I dont seige, and never have. I just cant perceive it as fun.
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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 12:48pm

Hack crying in SW was one of main reason I left my first guild. Not only if we were loosing would they call it, they started to do it even if we were winning, but they got killed?!

Worst of all - they were badly geared just as me. :D

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 1:36pm

What are you talking about?? I am sure that RoM client can sense 'other programs' and actions can be taken...

As for hax cry, I was telling before couple times, I remember one of those ex-guildy called hax, in the end person was using all his rogue abilities + food/pot buffs and was killing us in numbers. It was nice to see him at work in SW on the same side in my later guild.

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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 5:13pm

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in the end person was using all his rogue abilities + food/pot buffs and was killing us in numbers. It was nice to see him at work in SW on the same side in my later guild.



lol I remember seeing my guildie do that, it was really spectacular sight watching him drop 6 70k HP endgamers :p Really makes me want to be uber geared.

And I wish RoM could just rent a better server farm rather than just rent the cheapest server farm they can find. It would reduce hax crying by at least half, which come from lag and rubberbanding/porting, which also sprouts by lag. Server farms like these just don't cut it Frogster:
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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 5:32pm

Yep, makes you wish to be OP, just to hurt others in SW like that, but there is also play style. He has good one, knew his class well and did not use DIYCE.

That server farm actually look descent - I am more thinking that real server is just like this...



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Or like this nightmare....


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Wednesday, September 5th 2012, 5:44pm

LOL Atar, now i know what to do with my old boxes = BBQ!!!! hell YEAH!!!

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 1:46am

ROFL those are some really nice pics Atar :D Definately sounds like RoM server farms.
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