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SeanD123

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 5:47pm

Angel sigh's and housemaid buffs poofing in toshh

Wanting to know if anyone else is noticing buffs that still have 20hours or 3hours left randomly poofing when they run toshh.

I tank toshh daily as a wd/w and ive been losing angel sigh's prematurely everyday I have no idea if its because of a zodiac pet buff or a wd/w skill or if its 1 of the bosses or toshh mobs removing them. Yesterday I lost an angel sigh that had 22 hours left i still had on after clearing 4th boss and then I noticed it was gone before 6th boss was pulled so might have been 5th idk??.

Anyways its kinda poor that a cash shop item that is supposed to be permanent until expiration time is over can just randomly poof. ALSO fix sprint from removing eggrice dumpling >.>

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 5:51pm

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 6:17pm

have also noticed the phoenix redemption replacement sold in last weekends sale do nothing.
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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 6:24pm

Quoted from "SeanD123;568501"

Wanting to know if anyone else is noticing buffs that still have 20hours or 3hours left randomly poofing when they run toshh.

I tank toshh daily as a wd/w and ive been losing angel sigh's prematurely everyday I have no idea if its because of a zodiac pet buff or a wd/w skill or if its 1 of the bosses or toshh mobs removing them. Yesterday I lost an angel sigh that had 22 hours left i still had on after clearing 4th boss and then I noticed it was gone before 6th boss was pulled so might have been 5th idk??.

Anyways its kinda poor that a cash shop item that is supposed to be permanent until expiration time is over can just randomly poof. ALSO fix sprint from removing eggrice dumpling >.>


I'd also like to note that this may not be related to the instance, but instead, to the number of buffs being used. There is a "cap" on the number of buffs that you can have at once, and exceeding this cap causes some of them to be "pushed off".

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 6:35pm

What is the cap sir?

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 6:51pm

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What is the cap sir?


I think it's 20 individual buffs, but I'd have to re-check that - it's been a while.

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 7:09pm

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I think it's 20 individual buffs, but I'd have to re-check that - it's been a while.


I'm pretty sure its more than 20. I roll into siege with about 24 starting out. But I notice you said "individual buffs." What do you mean by that?
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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 7:23pm

Quoted from "Rukifellth2792;568513"

I'm pretty sure its more than 20. I roll into siege with about 24 starting out. But I notice you said "individual buffs." What do you mean by that?


I mean that everything that puts a buff icon and/or timer on you - including instruments, foods, and so on.

The limit may be 30 - I've forgotten the exact number, but I know it's possible to exceed it under certain circumstances.

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 7:26pm

Nobody cast regens on me, I wanna keep mah buffz!

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 8:11pm

No way it's just 30. With still buffs we are probably at around 22~24? Then add in instruments and CD's and we're definitely over 30. If we're still under I would be surprised.
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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 8:19pm

You all gimme 5mil or ill spam all my regens on you during buffing/burn phase and you all lose your big angel sigh's/phoenixes/mount speed pots.

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Thursday, September 6th 2012, 8:35pm

Never mind...

I think it is most likely 32. (8 per line on default interface, 4 lines)

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Friday, September 7th 2012, 5:37am

So if the same apply to debuffs then a mob or boss can only have max 32 debuffs?

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Friday, September 7th 2012, 5:48am

Going to count out my buffs when running instances here don't mind me...

Mount Speed Pot, BAS, House Buff 1, House Buff 2, Tp Pot, Tp/Drop Cactus buff, Composure, Battle Creed, Briar Shield, Grassland, Ribs, GOL, Amp Att, Savage Blessing, Hero Potion, Scarlet Love, Flower God Blessing, Holy Protection, Caviar Sandwich, Savage Power, Aggressiveness, Tranq, Stim, Berserk, Fire Training, Crit Pot, Frenzy, Surprise Attack buff, Lute, Tambo. How many buffs is that? Too lazy to count. O and Soldiers, Attack! if I'm with certain guildies. Ah! Morale Boost if I have a Wdn/S in group too.
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Friday, September 7th 2012, 6:04am

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Going to count out my buffs when running instances here don't mind me...

Mount Speed Pot, BAS, House Buff 1, House Buff 2, Tp Pot, Tp/Drop Cactus buff, Composure, Battle Creed, Briar Shield, Grassland, Ribs, GOL, Amp Att, Savage Blessing, Hero Potion, Scarlet Love, Flower God Blessing, Holy Protection, Caviar Sandwich, Savage Power, Aggressiveness, Tranq, Stim, Berserk, Fire Training, Crit Pot, Frenzy, Surprise Attack buff, Lute, Tambo. How many buffs is that? Too lazy to count. O and Soldiers, Attack! if I'm with certain guildies. Ah! Morale Boost if I have a Wdn/S in group too.


I lost count at 3.

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Friday, September 7th 2012, 8:52am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;568608"

Going to count out my buffs when running instances here don't mind me...

Mount Speed Pot, BAS, House Buff 1, House Buff 2, Tp Pot, Tp/Drop Cactus buff, Composure, Battle Creed, Briar Shield, Grassland, Ribs, GOL, Amp Att, Savage Blessing, Hero Potion, Scarlet Love, Flower God Blessing, Holy Protection, Caviar Sandwich, Savage Power, Aggressiveness, Tranq, Stim, Berserk, Fire Training, Crit Pot, Frenzy, Surprise Attack buff, Lute, Tambo. How many buffs is that? Too lazy to count. O and Soldiers, Attack! if I'm with certain guildies. Ah! Morale Boost if I have a Wdn/S in group too.


That totals up to 33 by my count.

Add in a Phoenix Redemption or St. Phoenix, and you've got 34 buffs.

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Friday, September 7th 2012, 1:10pm

i thought it was just boss 6 in tosh that stole buffs (30d speed mount Oo). we always tell ppl to check while waiting for boss 7 to be popped on a late mento grabber , res'd, and then wait for cd's.

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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 3:58am

Quoted from "mikkehboii;568608"

Going to count out my buffs when running instances here don't mind me...

Mount Speed Pot, BAS, House Buff 1, House Buff 2, Tp Pot, Tp/Drop Cactus buff, Composure, Battle Creed, Briar Shield, Grassland, Ribs, GOL, Amp Att, Savage Blessing, Hero Potion, Scarlet Love, Flower God Blessing, Holy Protection, Caviar Sandwich, Savage Power, Aggressiveness, Tranq, Stim, Berserk, Fire Training, Crit Pot, Frenzy, Surprise Attack buff, Lute, Tambo. How many buffs is that? Too lazy to count. O and Soldiers, Attack! if I'm with certain guildies. Ah! Morale Boost if I have a Wdn/S in group too.


Why are you even posting on this thread? All you do is watch LotCH and salivate over Felix

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Sunday, September 9th 2012, 5:18am

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Why are you even posting on this thread? All you do is watch LotCH and salivate over Felix


Rofl gtfooo
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Monday, September 10th 2012, 5:06am

I doubt it is number of buffs, or people would be reporting it more often. Unless there is a boss/mobs in ToSH that happens to add buffs that maybe people don't see -- like the mobs in DoD that buff you. Also seems to random to be that, since most people have the same buffs in most boss fights, unless their timing is off, and this does seem to happen only around 4th-6th boss somewhere.

If it is this max, that should also be easy to test.
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