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Sunday, September 23rd 2012, 6:12pm

Allright, back on topic.
IDK in the first place why they took the +6 and +12 from IS. They probably would be swiming on our money right now if they didn't puped on the shop and keep +16 for special sales, but I think someone on Gamefrogster must have a shortcut between intestine and head. Once a player asked a question about "where some event npc was" and they said that would be unfair give this advantage away, so what's more unfair than keep new players with crappy gear while old players already have their shinny top +16 gear filled with stats, when someone's new player guild will be able to be among the top rank guilds? Oh I know, Gamefrogster intend to be the first gaming company on Mars. I should see that coming
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Sunday, September 23rd 2012, 8:58pm

Quoted from "RiannasHope;570669"

http://www.runesofmagic.com/en/newsdetai…of-faith-2.html


The price for enhanced are:

5-pack = 99 dias (armor/accessories), 149 dias (weapons)

1 jewel = 396 (armor/accessories), 596 (weapons)

In other words, the items are FOR sale in token shop, but not ON sale. In diamond shop, they are both FOR and ON sale.

The prices are pretty low - when Enhanced came out they were 100+ each, IIRC, not a 5-pack for 99. But there is the stumbling block here, which is getting your gear to +12. It will do little good to put "your gear must be at least 12" jewels on sale, if lack of perfects is making it hard to get there.
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Monday, September 24th 2012, 12:30am

Quoted from "RiannasHope;570669"

http://www.runesofmagic.com/en/newsdetai…of-faith-2.html

Nice that they read the thread title and putted jewels on sale, a slight improvement from when they didn't even read thread titles at all.

Now we gotta work on having them read the posts in the thread as well so they know we want PERFECT jewels
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Monday, September 24th 2012, 12:35am

we NEED perfects, all these other jewels are useless without them


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Monday, September 24th 2012, 5:19am

THANKS for the +16 jewels! finally got most of my accessories to +16 on my druid it was soooo nice! now i'm just 1 water dragon badge away from getting the whole set for my mage and then i'll have to +16 them too *sigh*. though the good news is i already got the jewels in mass to do it :D

therefore i wont be shouting out for the jewels.... unless ofc they fail too much and they r not enough then the process repeats all over again *really need a smiley for evil laughter* :cool:

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 5:22am

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we NEED perfects, all these other jewels are useless without them


not really i have been able to +12 (took about 10) and +16 (took about 10 too) quite easily most of the time its the getting them to +6 thats the hard part

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 5:55am

Quoted from "bilalab;570697"

not really i have been able to +12 (took about 10) and +16 (took about 10 too) quite easily most of the time its the getting them to +6 thats the hard part


Problem is most of us don't enjoy the gamble, when playing with IRL money... sometimes you get lucky, but I've also spent over $20US before only to get 2 items from +6 to +11 -- and finally given up on +12 ever happening. At least before we had the choice, gamble on non-perfects, or pay extra for a sure thing. Choices are nice :)

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 2:04pm

Forcing sale guy to play game will solve all of our problems.

At the moment, jewels being in CS is great then what it was week ago.

Thank you Frogster for listening!

Now let's continue improving overall goal to allow people to plus/state.

We need ruby shop prices fixed and/or remove fails with something we already paid for.

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 6:22pm

Quoted from "bilalab;570697"

not really i have been able to +12 (took about 10) and +16 (took about 10 too) quite easily most of the time its the getting them to +6 thats the hard part


Yea I have had good success with the plus gems all weekend, on the 12s n 16s very few failures but did have a couple of critical failures. But overall the success was roughly 80% for me.

Yes perfects are very nice, and I do also prefer the guaranteed plus. Expect them to be very expensive if they do put the plus 12s....prob be something like 300 to 400 rubies.

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 7:39pm

Yeah, +5 is tough, +6 near impossible. However, +12 and +16 are not as hard as +5. Note: not a scientific study, based on a small sample of 30 pieces of gear.

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 8:06pm

Quoted from "Auros;570764"

Yeah, +5 is tough, +6 near impossible. However, +12 and +16 are not as hard as +5. Note: not a scientific study, based on a small sample of 30 pieces of gear.


Indeed. While there is no easy way to tell for sure, Advanced and Enhanced jewels have lower failure rates. Back when perfects were easier to obtain, the optimal pattern was:

1) Vendor
2-4) Regular
5-6) Perfect Regular
7-11) Advanced
12) Perfect Advanced
13-15) Enhanced
16) Perfect enhanced or regular.
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Monday, September 24th 2012, 8:16pm

Good luck getting those perfect with ridiculous ruby price we have now. :)

I used to do 11 and 12 perfect. Was not aware that +11 was reachable.

Now I have 3 pieces of gear at +4 and will not stat it until I get it +12 at least. So halting upgrade of that gear. Only one old piece that has been already + (from long time ago) will get stated and used.

I don't really know how they planned to have us + gear.

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 9:43pm

Quoted from "RoMage;570767"

Good luck getting those perfect with ridiculous ruby price we have now. :)

I used to do 11 and 12 perfect. Was not aware that +11 was reachable.

Now I have 3 pieces of gear at +4 and will not stat it until I get it +12 at least. So halting upgrade of that gear. Only one old piece that has been already + (from long time ago) will get stated and used.

I don't really know how they planned to have us + gear.


I'd go for a shot +12 and +16 without perfects except that I can't get from +5 to +6. I guess I'll just keep waiting for those perfects...

And @RoMage with the Faith jewels, +5 and +11 is easily reachable with non perfects. I've usually have only 1 fail from +0 to +5 and +7 to +11.
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Monday, September 24th 2012, 9:58pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo;570766"

Indeed. While there is no easy way to tell for sure, Advanced and Enhanced jewels have lower failure rates. Back when perfects were easier to obtain, the optimal pattern was:

1) Vendor
2-4) Regular
5-6) Perfect Regular
7-11) Advanced
12) Perfect Advanced
13-15) Enhanced
16) Perfect enhanced or regular.


Not only was it the optimal pattern but it was stated by the horse itself that is how the items were designed to be used. so the fact that they reasied the ruby cost of the perfect +6 and made the +12 only avialbe in the gasha's = them wanted to suck mucho $ out of us.... am i wrong? maybe since they did just re instate +12 reg in itemshop. Maybe the future will hold cheaper prices on perfects.

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Monday, September 24th 2012, 10:20pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo;570766"

Indeed. While there is no easy way to tell for sure, Advanced and Enhanced jewels have lower failure rates. Back when perfects were easier to obtain, the optimal pattern was:

1) Vendor
2-4) Regular
5-6) Perfect Regular
7-11) Advanced
12) Perfect Advanced
13-15) Enhanced
16) Perfect enhanced or regular.


How long have the vendor +7-12 ones been in game? I noticed them not long ago but I could have missed them the entire time. I assumed since you didn't list them in the strategy they must have been fairly new.
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Monday, September 24th 2012, 11:11pm

Quoted from "Deltaninethc;570780"

How long have the vendor +7-12 ones been in game?

Been in since Chapter 5 release, so 3½ months.

Whilst I haven't noticed any drop in the success rate of Advanced & Enhanced jewels, the regular 1-6 jewels seem to have been massively nerfed since ch5 release.
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Monday, September 24th 2012, 11:18pm

The +6 jewels make me want to ragequit everytime I use them. 20-30 jewels just to get to +5 most of the time.. then another effing 150 rubies to perfect +6.
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Tuesday, September 25th 2012, 1:34am

Quoted from "Borella;570786"

The +6 jewels make me want to ragequit everytime I use them. 20-30 jewels just to get to +5 most of the time.. then another effing 150 rubies to perfect +6.


The +6 faith ones work fine for me. +0 to +5 in 6 jewels for the 4 items that I've plussed since Ch V. Its the +5 to +6 process thats just a big !@#$%^
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