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Wow, thx. That is a tremendous load off. Regular Hippo, Hackman, and Blackstar are manageable by a group of level 60 players. If we can get the "proof of bravery" off them, that is great.

Quoted from "lazerr;572117"

you dont have to kill the lvl 75 hippo for the quest lol, the normal lvl 57 boss spawns aswell. and its deff not that hard, yea you need stuns and ok tank heals, but with dps keeps the stuns on him the tank won't get that massive 120% hit or whatever. deff not that hard tho.

For elite quest or for the normal zone quest? If that's for the elite quest, then someone should /delete this entire QQ lolz.

I for one think it's about time they make elites hard as heck to get again, like they were for the first 2 years I played. Plus, I find it laughable that everyone's dog in the fight is "level 60s can't do it". Nobody even plays at lvl60, not really, everyone just races to max level these days, so not like they would even be trying this (or anything) at lvl60. Maybe the devs had that in mind, so even though they call it lvl60, they designed it based on the way current players actually play. I guess they could have saved themselves some QQ (not likely) if they just called it lvl75, either way it is what it is.

Quoted from "shopguy;572123"

For elite quest or for the normal zone quest? If that's for the elite quest, then someone should /delete this entire QQ lolz.

I for one think it's about time they make elites hard as heck to get again, like they were for the first 2 years I played. Plus, I find it laughable that everyone's dog in the fight is "level 60s can't do it". Nobody even plays at lvl60, not really, everyone just races to max level these days, so not like they would even be trying this (or anything) at lvl60. Maybe the devs had that in mind, so even though they call it lvl60, they designed it based on the way current players actually play. I guess they could have saved themselves some QQ (not likely) if they just called it lvl75, either way it is what it is.

Facepalm at these sweeping generalizations.

So, people who're leveling up their first toon ever are racing to 75? I find your lack of faith in people's desire to actually play a video game instead of racing through it as fast as they can disturbing. Especially after last night's siege where our guild of 62-72 players wiped the floor with a guild full of 75/75's

Now, to correct the attempted derailing quoted above, Id like to say I sure hope that you can get these off the normal world bosses. If so, these elites may not be so fail yet. Maybe when we can actually read the quests in the game we'll know for sure.

Quoted from "lazerr;572117"

you dont have to kill the lvl 75 hippo for the quest lol, the normal lvl 57 boss spawns aswell. and its deff not that hard, yea you need stuns and ok tank heals, but with dps keeps the stuns on him the tank won't get that massive 120% hit or whatever. deff not that hard tho.

Did you get your elites or try this? I'm just curious because the quest does say "Furious" before each boss which is the level 75 version.

Quoted from "lazerr;572117"

you dont have to kill the lvl 75 hippo for the quest lol, the normal lvl 57 boss spawns aswell. and its deff not that hard, yea you need stuns and ok tank heals, but with dps keeps the stuns on him the tank won't get that massive 120% hit or whatever. deff not that hard tho.

I'm...not sure I believe you. You do realize the quest specifically asks for the lvl 75 versions by name (normal bosses are distinguished by their lvl 75 hard mode counterparts by "Furious" or "Resentful" before their name, aside from the obvious level difference). We're not talking about the wodjin quest, we're talking about the lvl 60 elite quest.

Quoted from "flyingltj;572127"

So, people who're leveling up their first toon ever are racing to 75? I find your lack of faith in people's desire to actually play a video game instead of racing through it as fast as they can disturbing.

I agree, but that's the state of the game from my point of view. I don't feel the need to say "in my opinion" or "from my point of view" on everything I post, since that should be a given. I feel pretty safe saying that there are more people racing to end-game than doing natural progression though, unless I really am out of touch. Maybe some others would care to comment as well, to get a better mixed review, but based on lack of LFG FA, Clops, IDK, etc, etc, that I see, I think it's safe to say people aren't running these at-level anymore, which is what I call "race to end-game". Maybe not 75, but pretty close at least. They might take months to get there, but they also aren't doing much prior to that, not gearing up to the point where they would be trying to down world bosses anyway, not in a form where they are really helping the group (they might be there to watch, but they aren't the ones doing the work).

I feel this is not off-topic for this discussion because people here are trying to argue that "it's too hard for lvl60s to complete"... and my counter-point is "it wouldn't matter, because the vast majority wouldn't try anyway". Sure, you might want to design the game for those few that actually would try, but then it just makes it too easy for the people that play the way the game is currently played, since they will not be doing their first attempt at lvl60 anyway, and at lvl75 it would be too easy if they were lvl60 bosses.

I'd love it if everyone would follow natural progression, but I've learned you can't change the way people play. You can maybe attract a different group of people instead, but I fear it's too late for RoM to do that, and in trying they would just kill the current group of people and thus the game with it.

The thing is.. even if having the level 75 bosses as part of it was to "cater to the way players play at max level".... 90% of players whose level is 75 CANNOT kill these world bosses. Level doesn't mean a whole lot besides "look I can wear this gear and I crit more often on this boss". The amount of level 75's with 20-30K hp max is astonishing, and they have no chance of taking down a world boss unless they're carried by an OP'er group.

Quoted from "Borella;572145"

The thing is.. even if having the level 75 bosses as part of it was to "cater to the way players play at max level".... 90% of players whose level is 75 CANNOT kill these world bosses. Level doesn't mean a whole lot besides "look I can wear this gear and I crit more often on this boss". The amount of level 75's with 20-30K hp max is astonishing, and they have no chance of taking down a world boss unless they're carried by an OP'er group.

Yeah... That would be me. 25k HP. 42k fully buffed. How people can manage to get over 100k is just beyond me... I'd be lucky to have 50. As is, were I desiring to get my secondary to 60, it still wouldn't matter. The twelve best people in my guild couldn't down a 75 WB. And unfortunately I don't think and of the OP elite of OSHA care if any of the rest of us can get our elites or not. Not saying that for everyone (we have some very nice people =D) But I don't figure anyone is gonna shout that a 75 is up/just been downed...

Quoted from "lazerr;572117"

you dont have to kill the lvl 75 hippo for the quest lol, the normal lvl 57 boss spawns aswell. and its deff not that hard, yea you need stuns and ok tank heals, but with dps keeps the stuns on him the tank won't get that massive 120% hit or whatever. deff not that hard tho.

Can somebody confirm/deny this by actually trying to use the elite quest item on a normal level world boss? Yes, the description asks for the "furious" model by name, but it's entirely possible the normal versions were included as viable targets either accidentally or on purpose. I'm not in a guild that can take out the world bosses without outside help & lots of planning, so if somebody who can solo the boss can confirm/deny this for us I'm sure everybody would be most appreciative.

I have completed/obtained my lvl 60 elite skill, and well its bad news. It must be the level 75 version of the boss and you need to kill 3 of them. The quest that requires you to kill them give you an item that you must use on the dead body, and it has a 1 hour cd. I tried holding the body open for an hour(which you can do) but the item wouldnt work on the same body, so must be 3 different kills. Since wodjin is the only one thats able to be downed easily (compared to the other ones) i camped the spawn for several days and managed to get the 3rd one yesterday.

edit: Used the item that gives you your elite on my p/s but it also gave me elite for s/p, so similar to lvl 50 elites.

Quoted from "kaucasianazn;572163"

I have completed/obtained my lvl 60 elite skill, and well its bad news. It must be the level 75 version of the boss and you need to kill 3 of them. The quest that requires you to kill them give you an item that you must use on the dead body, and it has a 1 hour cd. I tried holding the body open for an hour(which you can do) but the item wouldnt work on the same body, so must be 3 different kills. Since wodjin is the only one thats able to be downed easily (compared to the other ones) i camped the spawn for several days and managed to get the 3rd one yesterday.

edit: Used the item that gives you your elite on my p/s but it also gave me elite for s/p, so similar to lvl 50 elites.

Already said all this a couple pages back Grats on your elite. Not sure how p/s is, but had my d/s one for a couple days now, and love it

Quoted from "Ravesden;572165"

Already said all this a couple pages back Grats on your elite. Not sure how p/s is, but had my d/s one for a couple days now, and love it

oh my bad lol, i only read what was on the last page and it seemed like they were still confused. as for the p/s elite it heals for 20k/40kcrit on every tick of damage from chain of light, and only heals people in my party i think. Not 100% sure though.

Quoted from "kaucasianazn;572163"

I have completed/obtained my lvl 60 elite skill, and well its bad news. It must be the level 75 version of the boss and you need to kill 3 of them. The quest that requires you to kill them give you an item that you must use on the dead body, and it has a 1 hour cd. I tried holding the body open for an hour(which you can do) but the item wouldnt work on the same body, so must be 3 different kills. Since wodjin is the only one thats able to be downed easily (compared to the other ones) i camped the spawn for several days and managed to get the 3rd one yesterday.

edit: Used the item that gives you your elite on my p/s but it also gave me elite for s/p, so similar to lvl 50 elites.

Thanks for confirming this Invictor. Somebody mentioned there might be a chance that the normal version of the boss would give the item; good to know that isn't the case.

I'm glad to see the new elites, but seriously, level 75 bosses for a level 60 is pretty absurd.

Quoted from "TheMann64;572167"

Thanks for confirming this Invictor. Somebody mentioned there might be a chance that the normal version of the boss would give the item; good to know that isn't the case.

I can confirm that regular blackstar(level 63 version) does not give the stuff for the quest.

Quoted from "camagic;572199"

I can confirm that regular blackstar(level 63 version) does not give the stuff for the quest.

Blackstar was never in the quest description, neither is Zanka; http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…1470#post571470

So that data is sort of useless regardless, neither Blackstar or Zanka have a 75 version either last I knew.

Quoted from "camagic;572199"

I can confirm that regular blackstar(level 63 version) does not give the stuff for the quest.

Sorry for being blunt but...duh xD

Quest text only names Wodjin/Spider/hackman/tb north/south bosses. Blackstar does not have a lvl 75 version, so even if it could work on normal versions, it wouldn't work on Blackstar.

edit: kef beat me to it. Damn slow mobile phones...

Quoted from "Ravesden;572209"

Quest text only names Wodjin/Spider/hackman/tb north/south bosses. Blackstar does not have a lvl 75 version, so even if it could work on normal versions, it wouldn't work on Blackstar.

You are right, it would help to read the quest.


Thanks kafkai for putting the quest info up there as the current game client still says sys name and description of "..."

Quoted from "TheMann64;572167"

Thanks for confirming this Invictor. Somebody mentioned there might be a chance that the normal version of the boss would give the item; good to know that isn't the case.

Why is that "good?" It shouldn't be impossible for a level 60 to get their elite.

Quoted from "effervescent;572216"

Why is that "good?" It shouldn't be impossible for a level 60 to get their elite.

I wasn't saying the system was good. I was saying it's good to know that it doesn't work on the normal level bosses so I don't waste my time trying to make it work on them. I still think the method for obtaining the elites is terrible, but at least it's possible. You really just need to find a strong guild that will let you come harvest the body after they kill it. Of course, that might be more difficult than actually gearing up and killing the boss yourself.........