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Friday, September 28th 2012, 11:05pm

stat of the Remains? 0.o

when new patch came out me and I'm sure many others pulled a bunch of mems and EoJ things, I did over 10 myself and thought maybe it was just bad luck not getting any dex/Pattack or stam/p

but now I've been checking AH this whole time and it's history as well as asking trade/world/guild and no one seems so have any of the following stats in remains

dexterity/physical attack
stamina/physical attack
stamina/dexterity
int/stamina
int/magical attack

I'm going to be furious if there wasen't even a chance of getting a 'good' stat to begin with and I wasted all my mats on these instead of eternities.

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 12:12am

It is quite possible that people who pull those stat want to use them. Most people pull stats to use not to sell.

That said, the stat table is messed up on Remains. The usual Plate=Stam, Chain=Str, Leather= Dex and Cloth=Int&Wis is borked. I pulled HP/Def on leather, for example. It is clearly a plate stat.
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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 12:13am

Triumph of remains is in the database, not sure about game (or if off pulls). The dragon triumph can come off pulls though (the 2nd type of stat with the content push).


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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 12:19am

Quoted from "vfwiffo;571859"

It is quite possible that people who pull those stat want to use them. Most people pull stats to use not to sell.

That said, the stat table is messed up on Remains. The usual Plate=Stam, Chain=Str, Leather= Dex and Cloth=Int&Wis is borked. I pulled HP/Def on leather, for example. It is clearly a plate stat.


It CLEARLY isn't a plate stat. You can get hp/def hero from any accessory at the tosh vendor. Crap stats like that are all random pulls no matter what type of armor it is besides the 6 pieces that can give good stats.

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 12:32am

I mentioned AH because there is evidence of all those stats in dragon form in multiples and its ridiuclous to think there wouldn't be 1 of any in remain form. (in Artemis anyways capped 500 t5s)

and yeah stat pulls are messed I got strength and dex stats on both leather and plate lol

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 5:09am

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It CLEARLY isn't a plate stat. You can get hp/def hero from any accessory at the tosh vendor. Crap stats like that are all random pulls no matter what type of armor it is besides the 6 pieces that can give good stats.


well i got an int/pattk on plate sooo it may be borked , forrest lol,

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 8:03am

That dexterity/mdef...from cloth.

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 8:39am

looks like bleeding got a stam/dex off the dagger drop in bone nest

havent been able to pull it though maybe dex/p and other can drop in instance only

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 8:47am

dex/pa off dagger drop.

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Saturday, September 29th 2012, 3:52pm

Int/HP from mem mage shoulders. But none int/stam int/mattack yet.

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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 8:45am

Yes your concerns are true. They have completely removed all the top stats from both mem pulls and eoj pulls. This means that unless your running the new HM instance then you aren't getting statted. You may think, 'Oh well i guess ill be able to get them out the AH eventually like it used to be before eojs'. Wrong. Before you could pull the top stats from mems but like i said this has been removed aswell, so any stats that are dropping in instances, from those guilds able to run them, will indeed be used by their player base. Even on the off chance the odd top stats work their way onto the AH they will be so over priced, unless your a massive diamond seller then your not affording them for all your gear. But at least you can sell bumper stats from shell pulls and the junk stats you will be getting from your mems/eojs, maybe you will be able to save up for stats right? No, wrong again, since the new instance on easy mode drops clean gear, then its so ridiculously easy to farm bumper stats they are barely giving a return on the cost of puris.

So what does this mean overall? If you cant run KBN HM your screwed. Simple as that.

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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 9:48am

yup theres a new dex/p in AH for 170m Artemis LOLOL

not like shells have much better luck anyway, 4 belt pulls all UD ALL Mdef. I hate this game.

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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 11:23am

Yeah, some of those stats seems to be now (KBN) Hard Mode only, but you could try farm first boss for some. According to what they wrote in weltenpage, you now have only 1/8-10 chance of getting one specific stat instead of 1/4 and most of them are trashy. People can also easily farm easy or normal to get those same trash stats easier. Luckily I saved my 3 stack of memes to old eternal pieces instead of wasting them to new ones during the first day... I actually like this change, making people actually have to play those instances to gain the best stats, but current meme ones aren't really worth a try for other than HD gear...

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You can still get good stats from shell gears, not forgetting those gears aren't that bad either losing nearly only to 75 world boss gear, some unique items or pure all-in pimping builds.

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 1:57pm

Quoted from "Bakken;573182"

yup theres a new dex/p in AH for 170m Artemis LOLOL

not like shells have much better luck anyway, 4 belt pulls all UD ALL Mdef. I hate this game.


same with alot of the people in our guild :|
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Thursday, October 11th 2012, 8:47pm

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same with alot of the people in our guild :|



it's now 5 in a row ALL under 80 dur ALL Mdef

wtf is wrong with this game <.<

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Thursday, October 11th 2012, 9:18pm

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it's now 5 in a row ALL under 80 dur ALL Mdef

wtf is wrong with this game <.<


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Friday, October 12th 2012, 12:18am

the real problem with the remains and eoj stats is not that there is no significant basestat/pa or basestat/ma but that the relativeley viable (n previously cheap) 80%efficiency options arent as easy to pull,not equally likely to pull or plain not available

patk/hp
patk/def
matk/hp
str/hp
dex/hp
int/hp
that sorta thing ..u could previously use those stats + 3 basestat/mainatk value atribute stats of shells and get to be a viable player ready to partake in endgame...
our likelyhood of getting complete junk has increased while getting those 80% stats has become alot more difficult

whats worse is that thx to the memto weap vendor (good idea) concept its not yet time for tosh weaps to be available... n everyone knows AC weaps are n alot of cases really only viable as offhand. The 1h swords for knights is especially annoying... 30more dps but like 50%less +patk on t10 makes it actually worse for aggro purposes then the tosh weap o.O...so its worse as offhand (scout) and mainhand(knight) in every regard...

add to that that with the current server population any endgame payer who gets to kill wodjin/spider 75 will most likeley not even buy remains crapstats and/or farm KBN easy for it since u cant use those stats to clean-tier orange remains/eternity i see the income distribution and stat distribution get even more tilted to endgame players.

right now i cannot buy a single thing other then the odd shell stat and dias/clean tstones with my gold. n i really dont need that much shell stats... since instead i use wodjin stats if i can. and i buy my own dias.... so yea... 600mil saved up just from pugging by now...am not even in an endgame guild... i would looove to spend some of that so people can buy the gear i replaced XD

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 12:22am

Quoted from "Bakken;573695"

it's now 5 in a row ALL under 80 dur ALL Mdef

wtf is wrong with this game <.<


Yeah 6 attempts to get shell gloves in a row under dura w/ intel/defense, 3 attempts to pull OD ring from mentos UD (intel/str, patk/mp, intel/patk), and so on, and so forth...

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 6:47pm

Quoted from "Crosbie;573179"


So what does this mean overall? If you cant run KBN HM your screwed. Simple as that.


Gear up and run it? :)

Unless you just refuse to run instances, which some do and that's fine (but your choice/pain), there is no reason you can't get old gear off AH as people upgrade, and then run KBN yourself. If you don't have gold for that gear, then hopefully you have diamonds and can run RT, GCH, ToSH and build your own gear. If you don't have gold or diamonds, then you are just fail and should have lower expectations, go run clops or something, don't expect someone to carry you -- even the progressives in washington haven't created RoM-welfare yet!

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 11:41pm

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Gear up and run it? :)

If you don't have gold or diamonds, then you are just fail and should have lower expectations, go run clops or something, don't expect someone to carry you -- even the progressives in washington haven't created RoM-welfare yet!


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