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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 2:51am

Please end the perfect jewel drought!!!

Perfects for 150 rubies is just unaccpetable, especially with sales giving 0 dias now. For the past few weeks, everytime feedback about wanting perfect jewel for diamonds is "forwarded", we get a Non-Perfect jewel sale instead. its as if the word "perfect" gets magically erased while the feedback is sent.


The cost of plussing without perfects is just ridiculous. It reduces motivation to twink an alt with plussed gear, due to the high costs and difficulty of getting from +5 to +6, and is a massive roadblock for both new and gearing up players. Its not an overexaggeration when people complain that it took them 3 or 4 stacks of +6 jewels just to get to +6 on ONE piece. As shown in my experiment here: http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…?t=76646&page=6 (post #60), 2 stacks of +6 jewels only got my ring to +3. +5 came easily, but everytime I tried to push +6, it would just keep failing.


With an average of 3 stacks to +6 a piece, new players are looking at 42 stacks of +6 jewels, just to plus their gear, weapon, and accessories to +6. Not much motivation, especially since OD shell gear is becoming very popular, and its going to be a pain to plus.

It also puts a grinding halt to many players are are currently trying to gear up. +5 for a weapon, necklace, or ring is not an acceptable upgrade - it'll more likely nerf me. We don't have the MASSIVE resources to dump into these failing jewels.

With the increase in costs to plus, I can see gear prices going up even further. Its natural that people would at least want to sell the gear for what they spent on it, often more. If its going to be more expensive to produce gear, than its going to cost more to sell it. But most importantly of all, its not the price of gear increasing thats the problem- its the domino effects of increase in gear prices. Gear is central to RoM's economy, and inflation of gear prices is very likely to cause inflation in everything else. Not good for RoM's already overinflated economy.

Also, I don't even want to imagine upgrading gear now with the fail rate of gems. 4 new pieces of shell gear, and 2-3 new pieces of mento accesories come with content update. it might not seem like much to just plus that single shiny new weapon, but what about ALL these gear that has to plussed when you want to upgrade? i want to get rid of my old crimson shell gear and upgrade to these new OD lv 75 pieces, but i can't, because I can't get them past +5.

Some ideas that I've seen, or can think of are:

- Eliminate the level drop from failure
- Perfect +6 and +12 being permanently in CS
- Regular Jewels fail rate reduced, perfect jewels still being in the same state as now.
- Ch IV Jewel system, with Enhanced Moon/Sun/Star/Nebula Packages on sale for 150 diamonds:
These came in 2 types:
- 3 perfect +6, 3 perfect +12, 1 perfect +16 in 1 package or
- 1 of each perfect +6/+12+/16, 3 regular +6, + 3 reg +12, 1 reg +16
- Perfect Jewel only available for rubies still, but ruby shop reverted back to where it was at Ch IV.
- Removing level Req. on Jewels.

Personally, I think I still prefer the Ch IV system with the jewel packages, and I think perfect +6 and +12 Jewels should be a permanent CS offer @ 15 dias for +6, and 69 dias for +12 (same price as 1 stack of discounted non-perfects). I'm fine with the non-perfect fail rate, since they usually start failing badly only when you try to push +6 with it, from what I've seen.

I'm interested in knowing what people think about the current system, and any ideas not mentioned above.
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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 5:12am

it's pretty stupid, we had gashas with perfects 6/12/16 jewels for 70 and under why the hell not for 80?

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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 5:28am

Yes, increase in bonus of rubies only covers so much. The perfects are still virtually unattainable.

The situation is even worse because of drillers. You know that extra uber super rune sale we have? I loaded up on them, and put several into storage. Yes, I did spend dias on expert drillers, so if you plan was "give away runes, sell the drillers", that worked on me. Problem is that I can't get the master drillers. They are only in ruby shop, and no way I can have near enough rubies. And, yes, dias you can find for sale. Rubies are virtually impossible.

That means that even if I were to save enough rubies, I cant buy perfect jewels with them. Drillers > Jewels, because you at least can get item plussed with non-ruby non-perfects, even if it is fail-prone and expensive. You can't drill with non-ruby.

I say good perfect jewel sale and good driller sale is called for.
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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 6:30am

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it's pretty stupid, we had gashas with perfects 6/12/16 jewels for 70 and under why the hell not for 80?


We had packages for perfects as well. 3 perfect +6, either 1 or 3 perfect +12, and 1 perfect +16 during Ch IV. They were only 150 dias for armour/accessory.
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Tuesday, October 9th 2012, 7:49am

well theres a sort of work around for the ruby issue

There's some furniture that has a 100% ruby bonus usually 4dias-4rubies and all you have to do is buy as much as you need rubies and then your basically buying your ruby shop with diamonds. golden amulets are 5-4 so you could gift them to your guilds priests and have some use for the items instead of like 50 wooden chairs lol. There's a few items just have to look for em.

but thats fine for perfect +6 or master drillers but +12/16 is still a problem

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 2:00pm

I could use some jewels as well!
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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 5:01pm

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well theres a sort of work around for the ruby issue

There's some furniture that has a 100% ruby bonus usually 4dias-4rubies and all you have to do is buy as much as you need rubies and then your basically buying your ruby shop with diamonds. golden amulets are 5-4 so you could gift them to your guilds priests and have some use for the items instead of like 50 wooden chairs lol. There's a few items just have to look for em.

but thats fine for perfect +6 or master drillers but +12/16 is still a problem


150 diamonds for 150 rubies, for a perfect +6 jewel.
Not sure thats any cheaper lol @_@
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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 5:15pm

Robing shop is fun... with new prices I need couple K rubies to gear up... I guess that will not happen. :)

I blame it on Rustyx!!!

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 5:39pm

Yes, please put the level 80 jewels on sale ASAP, a lot of us cannot progress at this point even though we have the gear, as trading out lvl70 +16 gear for +6 (or even +11) lvl75 gear is not an upgrade.

I was laughing at everyone (secretly) because I had around 50+ of each type of jewel, all perfects, due to an awesome sale they had about a year ago (right before I quit for 9 months), and I stocked up (not sure if anyone else remembers that? would love that sale again). But now I'm even more upset, because I have all these lvl70 perfects I have little use for :( I wish plussers could be like drillers, no level restrictions, but that is asking too much I know, so just put the lvl80 on sale at least!

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 5:56pm

Make it that we can buy rubies with diamonds, in packs please!!!! Need to upgrade our walls!!!! tyvm

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 6:04pm

You know that you are talking about different rubies, right?

Have your guild run guild quests and get 'those' rubies. Interestingly, my alt guild has over 6K of those, and no really need in alt guild, but they were bound, so no other use for them.

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 7:38pm

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You know that you are talking about different rubies, right?

Have your guild run guild quests and get 'those' rubies. Interestingly, my alt guild has over 6K of those, and no really need in alt guild, but they were bound, so no other use for them.


Somebody told me once, so take that for waht it's worth, that you could use IS rubies for castle upgrades....w/e. I ain't gonna try it.

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Wednesday, October 10th 2012, 8:05pm

Those of you who want to get some rubies, the upcoming sale is on puri packs is WITH full ruby bonus. Current full price ruby bonus is decent at 8 rubies per 19 dia puri. The upcoming sale is 10% for small packs, 12% off for mediums and 15% for large, so they should be

Small = 19 * 5 * 0.9 = 85 dias with 40 rubies

Medium = 19 * 10 * 0.88 = 167 dias with 80 rubies

Large = 19 * 20 * 0.85 = 323 with 160 bonus

Not a huge discount, but every little bit helps. Now, if only they were stackable; puries, I mean, packs are already stackable AFAIK.

P.S. Yes, you could donate regular non-guild rubies to guild. Waste, considering how rare they are these days.

Edit: Price of packages rounded down a little to 165 and 319.
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Thursday, October 11th 2012, 6:53am

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Those of you who want to get some rubies, the upcoming sale is on puri packs is WITH full ruby bonus. Current full price ruby bonus is decent at 8 rubies per 19 dia puri. The upcoming sale is 10% for small packs, 12% off for mediums and 15% for large, so they should be

Small = 19 * 5 * 0.9 = 85 dias with 40 rubies

Medium = 19 * 10 * 0.88 = 167 dias with 80 rubies

Large = 19 * 20 * 0.85 = 323 with 160 bonus

Not a huge discount, but every little bit helps. Now, if only they were stackable; puries, I mean, packs are already stackable AFAIK.

P.S. Yes, you could donate regular non-guild rubies to guild. Waste, considering how rare they are these days.


If they gave full ruby bonus to every sale, that would be nice, and would really help with plussing.

Either way, I do hope this is the beginning of a trend back to plussing being just a bit annoying, but not too much. It also makes sense to buy dias off the Ah for 70k per now. 50k per for the diamonds, and 20k per for the rubies :D

Wait... I thought Big Puri packs used to be 250 diamonds...
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Thursday, October 11th 2012, 1:02pm

Saw that sale and imho it is meh to be called sale. If it was 50-80% great, but 10-15% is really not much and it does not adds up in overpriced ruby shop.

Ruby shop should be fixed.

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Thursday, October 11th 2012, 8:28pm

as if it isn't bad enough to have our regular jewels drop things from +5 to +1 (which just happend to me)

we really need some perfects

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Thursday, October 11th 2012, 8:36pm

And so far no word from anyone with green text in message?

Not that I miss another 'we will forward' kind of message, but some input would be nice...

I know we can't have anyone from RW for interview, how about someone from Sales department?? I am sure we have many questions for them...

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Friday, October 12th 2012, 1:38am

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And so far no word from anyone with green text in message?

Not that I miss another 'we will forward' kind of message, but some input would be nice...

I know we can't have anyone from RW for interview, how about someone from Sales department?? I am sure we have many questions for them...


Imo, both Runewaker and Frogster's Sales team really need to read the forums, because having GM/CM's pass on the info to those people just doesn't seem to work. Even Siberfuches admitted that there was a major communication barrier in his thread, Status Quo. Frogster knows the problem, yet it seems like they're just leaving it as "oh well, whatever".

We want perfects jewels, Frogster, and we don't like being ignored.
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Friday, October 12th 2012, 12:46pm

Please slightly reduce the success rate of CS jewels and completely eliminate the level drop from failure. That is all.
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