Runes of Magic US / AU

Alright kids, lets look at the new gear they've released in this content, and then talk about the "Casual" player...

Every class except healers now have fairly decent leg guards and shoulders dropping off bosses in easy mode from KBn (very easy gear to get, and even if you cant run it yourself most of the people who can just give it away). On top of that, 1 good remains stat atleast per class, and a bunch of yellow x stats (which are numerically the equivilant of hero stats) drop in easy mode.

While questing, every class gets pants equaly good at the blue ones mentioned above, and a belt that is amazing.

For rogues, the blue pants are the third best you can wear (After the new lvl 75 world boss pants, and the shints pants). The belt is the best belt you can get unless you are using the full lvl 75 set. AND ITS BLUE AND EVERYONE GETS IT. Everyone can gear and stat quickly now. This entire content patch was aimed at the casual player. So they made the super ****ty lvl 60 elites for only the most elite players in the game. Sorry that you dont get everything your way. Suck it up and put on your big boy and girl pants.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;573541"

Everyone can gear and stat quickly now. This entire content patch was aimed at the casual player. So they made the super shitty lvl 60 elites for only the most elite players in the game. Sorry that you dont get everything your way. Suck it up and put on your big boy and girl pants.

What the heck is wrong with you? How do you expect people to maintain their "perpetually disgruntled and p*ssed off" attitudes if they think this way? Come on, give people a break. They don't know how *not* to be discontented.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;573541"

For rogues, the blue pants are the third best you can wear (After the new lvl 75 world boss pants, and the shints pants). .

Your saying Shints pants from Tosh are second best for rogue? The one's with no set bonus or crit?
People use these? I don't know of any rogue wearing these.

Quoted from "bratty;573562"

Your saying Shints pants from Tosh are second best for rogue? The one's with no set bonus or crit?
People use these? I don't know of any rogue wearing these.

Who cares if they have a set bonus? Nobody uses a set for those pieces anymore either.

The best rogues on the server wear the shints pants. It's where it's at. Patk > crit when you're already at 70%. o.O

Quoted from "regentego;573565"

I have to get lucky three times.

isn't that a good thing? ppl have to get lucky atleast 5times in a row to +6 their gear (which is damn hard!) but it happens doesnt it?

Quoted from "regentego;573565"

No I cannot give someone my username and pass, that is a violation of the ToS.

errrr ya.... don't look at me i don't know my brother's usename and password nor does he know mine (or my alt's)!!!

Quoted from "regentego;573565"

A 72 hour cooldown is too long for a casual player. I have to get lucky three times.

Grats. Can I have her phone number?

People are looking at the feature and complaining that it is unduly difficult, demanding, tortuous and looks to be designed for people who have no life. Has anyone considered that perhaps those are not side effects, but instead design criteria? That would explain so much.

Besides, 50 elites were a repetitive pain in the butt, as were 50 weapons. Why should 60s be better. I think it is fairly obvious that this was not meant to be completed by the great unwashed masses; instead it is a distinction that says that you are OCD and have no life and you want everyone to know that.

Level 15-50 elites were all within their conent range yet the level 60 elites encompassing stuff up to level 75 is a complete arse-up in design, imo.

I've been avoiding replying to this topic like the plague cause a reply isn't going to solve anything. but i do have to say something.. don't you think the game would be a really boring place to be if only those who chirped in the forums about their leet skillz were the ones who played? I'm sorry, but you guys -ARE- in the minority. Personally, i'm not the strongest player.. i do my best though. But i do know i won't be getting my elites anytime soon. And for those of you who's super idea it is to call each other about said boss takedowns? I'm a mom raising 2 year old twins by myself.. sorry, some people aren't able to do what you are proposing. seriously, you guys need to think about the larger picture. agreed, there are things too easy but this.. is going too far the other way.

Quoted from "bratty;573562"

Your saying Shints pants from Tosh are second best for rogue? The one's with no set bonus or crit?
People use these? I don't know of any rogue wearing these.

All the rogues on reni atleast focus much more on crit than PA. I can wear these pants, still reach 70% crit rate, and get much higher PA.

Quoted from "regentego;573565"

Wow this took on a life of its own and Mr "Should I make a r/s guide" even got a little snarky. So lets go through what we got.

1. No I cannot give someone my username and pass, that is a violation of the ToS.

2. Yes its easier to gear.

3. Yes the 75 bosses are not that hard.

4. Level 50 elites the old fashion way were tedious but, none of the bosses had timers.

5. Most of those saying they are fine with it damn near live in RoM

6. I think elites should be tied to instances.

7. A 72 hour cooldown is too long for a casual player. I have to get lucky three times.

Quoted from "Jeania;573577"

I've been avoiding replying to this topic like the plague cause a reply isn't going to solve anything. but i do have to say something.. don't you think the game would be a really boring place to be if only those who chirped in the forums about their leet skillz were the ones who played? I'm sorry, but you guys -ARE- in the minority. Personally, i'm not the strongest player.. i do my best though. But i do know i won't be getting my elites anytime soon. And for those of you who's super idea it is to call each other about said boss takedowns? I'm a mom raising 2 year old twins by myself.. sorry, some people aren't able to do what you are proposing. seriously, you guys need to think about the larger picture. agreed, there are things too easy but this.. is going too far the other way.

Quoted from "regentego;573578"

No I haven't seen it happen, I also take it judging by your smiley face you and your brother share accounts, see you have an easy button. I follow the rules of the game, I'm not going to attempt breaking the rules to get ahead, I already know of a few people I call corporations cause several hardcore people play one character.

All those folks with more time then money won't understand, I don't slack in life period, there is no calling an early day, not only does my family rely on me but so do my employees. I'm so tired of being told accept it or get quips from people who lack many things in life and trade success for time wasters. This is my entertainment, not my glory.

To all of these: This game is already being made easier for the casual player. Gearing is faster, leveling isnt that hard, and the elite skills dont make a huge difference in play style. You can still play well with or without them. They are more of a "look at what i have" kind of deal for the 60 elites. A few of the 70 ones look a bit game changing (d/s and r/m O.o) but thats about it. This game is much better than the way it was before. You were just handed decent gear and stats on a silver platter, and you still want more?

Edit: for the record, i dont have my elite. I wont get it anytime soon becase wojin usually dies mid afternoon when most of my guild isnt on, and my guild does spider at night when im at work. So i miss all the bosses. But im not complaining, because i understand its MY schedule thats off.

Quoted from "thebadtouch09;573579"

They are more of a "look at what i have" kind of deal for the 60 elites. A few of the 70 ones look a bit game changing (d/s and r/m O.o) but thats about it.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Yeah D/Wd totally not game changing lololol it's pretty OP.

Honestly you're not gonna hear about people talking about how OP their elite skills are and some of the way things are phrased on the elite skills are deceptive. Lets talk about K/R for example which gets a 50% damage reduction when it shadow steps for 6 seconds, that's every 20s, that's some pretty decent damage mitigation, oh yeah also Shadow Step is a taunt now too.

A lot of people start talking about their skills and saying they suck before they use them, mainly because they don't know the numbers that are involved.

I'm not adversed to working hard, or long to attain the elites.. granted doesn't mean i won't be grumbling :p but i'd not be posting about that. But you're talking more 'impossible' verses 'difficult' for a good part of the game's population. Impossible is what i'm having an issue with.

Edit:
btw, when I say 'casual' player, i'm not just meaning the occasional or the weekenders, i'm talking even people who can only play a few hours a day.

Quoted from "Kefkai;573583"

Yeah D/Wd totally not game changing lololol it's pretty OP.

Honestly you're not gonna hear about people talking about how OP their elite skills are and some of the way things are phrased on the elite skills are deceptive. Lets talk about K/R for example which gets a 50% damage reduction when it shadow steps for 6 seconds, that's every 20s, that's some pretty decent damage mitigation, oh yeah also Shadow Step is a taunt now too.

A lot of people start talking about their skills and saying they suck before they use them, mainly because they don't know the numbers that are involved.

And a lot of the skills are, infact, crap. The R/wn skill has a 15 second timer on the stack before it disappears and you have to be constantly attack for it to stay in place. Useful in sw, otherwise no...The numbing dagger elite for r/s would be insane in siegewar, but even as a r/wn i never really use numbing dagger in pve.

Quoted from "Jeania;573584"

I'm not adversed to working hard, or long to attain the elites.. granted doesn't mean i won't be grumbling :p but i'd not be posting about that. But you're talking more 'impossible' verses 'difficult' for a good part of the game's population. Impossible is what i'm having an issue with.

Edit:
btw, when I say 'casual' player, i'm not just meaning the occasional or the weekenders, i'm talking even people who can only play a few hours a day.

I personally think this game needs more content that NO ONE can achieve Like chaos vortex. Or the lvl 75 bosses past spider priestess. I haven't heard of anyone completing those. And thats what makes them fun and challenging. SOmething to look forward to.

Quoted from "regentego;573586"

My post has nothing to do with leveling or gearing, I'm pointing out a flawed system, want to know how it's flawed? Here we go, at level 60/60 the only lvl 70 boss available is woodjin, otherwise you are still questing in Limo. The task needs to reflect progression. If that makes no sense to you then go write another r/s guide and tell all the rogues to stat more mdef.

Um. Correct me if im misunderstanding this? >.< You want the 60 elites to reflect on lvl 60 bosses? Ok thats somewhat understandable, but a lot of the rest of the complaints I've read are more "i want my elites and i want them now" more than anything else. I dont feel that basing elites on the world bosses is a terrible idea, but maybe saved for a higher level elite (the 70's?).

Also: stat some mdef for pvp. it works. (use the mdef runes)

As for the 72 hour timer, i think they MEANT for it to take people forever to get their elites. I would not be surprised if they knew what that would mean, and meant for exactly this to happen.

then you really need to reread some of the posts cause alot of us are saying what ebi is saying, that the elites need to be more appropriate to the level.
and i have no trouble with not being able to do some areas..but something that has an impact on overall gameplay should be at least attainable.

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…3594#post573594

Made a suggestion thread, I think this sort of thing would help people probably more than anything else, though I sorta doubt it'd get implemented, but you can always hope.

Quoted from "Jeania;573593"

then you really need to reread some of the posts cause alot of us are saying what ebi is saying, that the elites need to be more appropriate to the level.
and i have no trouble with not being able to do some areas..but something that has an impact on overall gameplay should be at least attainable.

There were a significant enough number for me to react as i did >.<

edit: sorry let me reprhase. Boss difficulty to level ratio is one thing. The timer is what i disagree with people complaining about.

So it takes you time to get your elite skills, you shouldnt beable to just gain everything on the first day of release.

Quoted from "Kefkai;573595"

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…3594#post573594

Made a suggestion thread, I think this sort of thing would help people probably more than anything else, though I sorta doubt it'd get implemented, but you can always hope.

That is an excellent suggestion

Darwec, i said i don't mind it taking time