Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Jeania;573599"

Darwec, i said i don't mind it taking time

Ah, then i misread what your stated. I appologize. Still, it is a recurring suggestion that has made me upset.

Quoted from "Kefkai;573595"

http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthr…3594#post573594

Made a suggestion thread, I think this sort of thing would help people probably more than anything else, though I sorta doubt it'd get implemented, but you can always hope.

They're already unbound. Same with the "Proof of Legend" you click on to get your elite.

I don't think a lot of people have issues with the time it takes to get the elites...just that having the level 60 elites require level 75 endgame bosses is beyond illogical, and while yes, it does take time to complete, that time can't be managed around your schedule, because these bosses only spawn once every 3 days. Probably most people who were here before chapter 4 realize that getting level 60 elites through Old Bags would be a horrific idea. I'm not adverse to having to work for high level elites, but the content needed for said elites needs to be in line with what the average midgamer can do. It also needs to be flexible -- not something you have to be on at a certain random time for.

A lot of people I know speculated that it would be something like DL/ZS/RT/KT, or at least Wodjin/Zanka/Hackman/Sesphiroth type stuff -- content that's doable by many guilds and midgamers. Having to run those for rare drops wouldn't have been horrible, because it would have been possible. What they did isn't possible, and the timing does make it very difficult for casual players. No one should have to organize their life around a game -- it's the other way around.

There's a difference between "time consuming" (i.e. takes a lot of work, a la the old 50/50) and just plain inconvenient. If you could work at these elites on your own time, whenever you have the time, that'd be one thing, but to expect people to drop their lives and come help with a world boss as soon as someone spots one is a bit absurd.

Quoted from "Ravesden;573641"

They're already unbound. Same with the "Proof of Legend" you click on to get your elite.

Pretty sure he meant the proof of bravery, which is bound.

Let me just step up and say one thing. A lot of the people posting here were saying how RoM needs new players, blah blah.

Designing something like this is opposite of something that would attract new players. That is what some of the people here are saying. The ones that get to profit, feel big and bad, or are WELL geared with no problem getting them is not the average player. Most of the newer players will see the lower level elites and how easy they are to get... just to get to these and go OMG no WAI. That is even before you consider the old bags..... what was it 3 logs, ores and herbs and BAM elite.

People will use it to profit. Ravens... if the ant queen means nothing then WHY DO SO MANY CAMP HER. It is sad. Thinking noobs should just "pony up the dough" for the items is ridiculous as well. Might as well just say you think lower level chars need to throw more money in the game.

As George Carlin would say, "we dont need two standards; one will do just fine". You cant want the game to be more attractive to new players and then defend a ridiculous, Jump through hoops, long list of stuff most of them cant do. I mean you all are only talking about the world boss, what about GCHM? Are they supposed to beg a run there. You all are wanting something "challenging" but then thinking it is Frogster/gamforges fault new players arent interested......


It isnt rocket science.

Quoted from "regentego;573673"

Yeah DK, midgamers should not have to beg or rely on OPs to get their elites. The OPs posting here don't realize that their game experience is not the same as your average 50-60k hp 40k pa players. Not to mention if you come on here happy that you just broke 40k pa as a r/s, the Reni server folk will come on here and tell you to get lost while belittling you.

Please direct me to a post where such a thing happened, instead of talking out your...

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But that's the self entitlement of the endgame guilds, they are most likely broke as hell in real life or maybe just short and overweight, but here and in game they have to tell other people just how wrong they are.

Idk man, I must be a miracle in the gaming world. Living on my own, going to college, my own job. Tri Sport Varsity Athlete in high school, bout as fat and lazy as they come.

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To that I say to every midgamer dont look at them with envy dont let them get to you in siege (which Reni guilds love to do in siege) look at them and pity them. This is all they have, this is their claim to fame, hell look at Darwec saying he is upset, really come on, people can and will have their opinions on the GAME, I posted one thing and they took the topic all over the board here.

Us Reni people are soooo bad. Because we're from Reni, we're aaallll mean >:O Lmao, I don't know if its your own self pity causing this, or you're really this dramatic. Oh, and I bet Yoman is from Reni too, amirite? He basically said what I said in the post.

Clockwork is one of those baaaaad end game guilds that are sooooo greedy they hold the corpse for the SERVER and notifies them in world shouts when they are downed.

Thats how bad us Reni end gamers are. Guess who usually does the world shouting? Yours truly.

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Anyhow treat people with respect whether they are level 60/60 or level 30. Notice when someone new comes to this forum and they have a idea they think is cool you Reni people drives them off, or you manage to take over and derail a thread by fighting with each other.

Respect....who was that person stereotyping others and calling them fat, short and lazy? Yes, its the Reni crew that drives them all off.

Even after this, Clockwork's policy is still the same, we'll world shout when the body is down. The big baaaad people of Reni can come and get their proofs, we ask nothing in return. Btw, did I mention we're baaaaad?

Back on topic since I'm soooooo baaaaaaad and meeeaaaannn: While it is harder for mid gamers to attain their elites, it is not impossible given the last part is unbound, and (atleast when I Item Preview the correct "Proof of Bravery", the purple one, not the orange one) it also comes up as unbound. Given how world bosses are, they can be downed via pugs if you need. Let's be honest. If some ninja's lvl 75 Wodjin...means you were sitting there for too long (because of the state/condition it needs to be to be downed anyways). If someone Ninja's spider, well, wish them luck because that fight is a pain in the... . But if she is prepped, and some other guild ninja's, means you also took too long standing around. Now, I don't condone nor will/have I participated in this, but lets be real, its the internet, and people will do dirty things.

Hard? Yes. Impossible? No. And from what I remember, mid gamers worried more about gearing up back in the day, than getting their 50 elite. You couldnt get your 50 solo with only 15k hp.

Quoted from "effervescent;573643"

I don't think a lot of people have issues with the time it takes to get the elites...just that having the level 60 elites require level 75 endgame bosses is beyond illogical, and while yes, it does take time to complete, that time can't be managed around your schedule, because these bosses only spawn once every 3 days. Probably most people who were here before chapter 4 realize that getting level 60 elites through Old Bags would be a horrific idea. I'm not adverse to having to work for high level elites, but the content needed for said elites needs to be in line with what the average midgamer can do. It also needs to be flexible -- not something you have to be on at a certain random time for.

A lot of people I know speculated that it would be something like DL/ZS/RT/KT, or at least Wodjin/Zanka/Hackman/Sesphiroth type stuff -- content that's doable by many guilds and midgamers. Having to run those for rare drops wouldn't have been horrible, because it would have been possible. What they did isn't possible, and the timing does make it very difficult for casual players. No one should have to organize their life around a game -- it's the other way around.

There's a difference between "time consuming" (i.e. takes a lot of work, a la the old 50/50) and just plain inconvenient. If you could work at these elites on your own time, whenever you have the time, that'd be one thing, but to expect people to drop their lives and come help with a world boss as soon as someone spots one is a bit absurd.

+1 to this.