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Monday, October 15th 2012, 10:54pm

Quoted from "shopguy;574044"

I don't think they should change this, mostly because I don't think it would matter and would just upset people. I mostly see 2 classes of tanks. The ones that have so much aggro (and with only 1 hatred) it wouldn't matter if the DPS didn't have any recons... or the ones with such little aggro, it wouldn't matter if they had 5 hatred Xs and the DPS all had negative aggro.

Also, I don't think boss burns have really been a problem since ch3 with the RT diamond immune tanking/burns. Since then, the new instances haven't been burns until after you have already done them several times and have the new gear/stats from them -- at which point, they should be burns IMO, because I don't want 20 minute boss fights after I've already done them 100+ times and I'm just there doing spam for stats or helping others gear up. It would suck if a brand-new instance was so easy it was a burn when it first comes out, yah, but if it only becomes a burn after 100+ runs, well great! I think most of the people that complain about burns are the ones that are behind, and don't get to the new instances until a few months after they are released, and then are upset they are burns (only because others in the party are already over-geared for it). That's fine if you can't always get to them right when they come out, but if you want to do them the strat method that late in the game, you'll need to find others that are behind as well, and run it with them.


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Monday, October 15th 2012, 10:57pm

Quoted from "shopguy;574044"


Also, I don't think boss burns have really been a problem since ch3 with the RT diamond immune tanking/burns. Since then, the new instances haven't been burns until after you have already done them several times and have the new gear/stats from them -- at which point, they should be burns IMO, because I don't want 20 minute boss fights after I've already done them 100+ times and I'm just there doing spam for stats or helping others gear up. It would suck if a brand-new instance was so easy it was a burn when it first comes out, yah, but if it only becomes a burn after 100+ runs, well great! I think most of the people that complain about burns are the ones that are behind, and don't get to the new instances until a few months after they are released, and then are upset they are burns (only because others in the party are already over-geared for it). That's fine if you can't always get to them right when they come out, but if you want to do them the strat method that late in the game, you'll need to find others that are behind as well, and run it with them.


ZOMG YES.

You just can't fathom how many times I've told people that not everythings a burn, when you're first pushing, strat is of the utmost importance but that doesnt mean you can come in there with slack dps. Soooo many QQ's about "nothing is fun, everything just gets burned." Well, for us that have been there for awhile - no, not everything has always been a burn. There is a LOT of strat, wiping/learning involved. Trial and error, observing every detail during the fight, recording and reviewing, etc etc.

Imo games not fun unless theres content to push. And not joke content like AC. GCH/ToSH/KulechHM content.

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 11:06pm

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Imo games not fun unless theres content to push. And not joke content like AC. GCH/ToSH/KulechHM content.


Totally agree, ToSH was a fresh breath of death air to the face.

My favorite boss fight for a long time was also Annelia. I absolutely abhor RT, ever since I got my ToY from there, I've turned down 99% of all RT invites since chapter 3 :P.

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Monday, October 15th 2012, 11:11pm

Quoted from "kynamdoan;574061"

Totally agree, ToSH was a fresh breath of death air to the face.

My favorite boss fight for a long time was also Annelia. I absolutely abhor RT, ever since I got my ToY from there, I've turned down 99% of all RT invites since chapter 3 :P.


Yup, burning isnt fun, which usually occurs in 6 man instances. I love AC last boss fight, not a burn - others hate it - because its not a burn (forget the loot). Annelia was by far my favorite fight. But even that became semi-burn. I miss 5, 6, 7 minute annelia fights. I think it truely tested the skill of your kiter, the awareness of your raid, and the timing of your healers' heals.

But hell, even I've kited annelia bears on my druid, annelia slowly becoming irrelevant as a "tough" fight :(

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 12:57pm

Quoted from "Ravesden;574063"

Yup, burning isnt fun, which usually occurs in 6 man instances. I love AC last boss fight, not a burn - others hate it - because its not a burn (forget the loot). Annelia was by far my favorite fight. But even that became semi-burn. I miss 5, 6, 7 minute annelia fights. I think it truely tested the skill of your kiter, the awareness of your raid, and the timing of your healers' heals.

But hell, even I've kited annelia bears on my druid, annelia slowly becoming irrelevant as a "tough" fight :(


haha Golly i miss our annelia fights. But I don't think Palenque can do annelia anymore.
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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:23pm

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haha Golly i miss our annelia fights. But I don't think Palenque can do annelia anymore.


Yeah we can, it's really just if there's a kiter or not. And the server still has at least one proven kiter.

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:26pm

Quoted from "kynamdoan;574141"

Yeah we can, it's really just if there's a kiter or not. And the server still has at least one proven kiter.


I dunno i haent seen anything from annelia in AH for while or in world channel. I think if We " could" do it then we would b/c you'd make soo much money with the amount of people that need the chests fromt here, and the orange item would jsut be a bonus.
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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:33pm

Quoted from "gigilomann;574144"

I dunno i haent seen anything from annelia in AH for while or in world channel. I think if We " could" do it then we would b/c you'd make soo much money with the amount of people that need the chests fromt here, and the orange item would jsut be a bonus.


It's more like we're running KBN trying to get 2nd boss down. And why would we do GCH for chests when virtually our whole guild has GCH, ToSH, or Proofs chest? We've already started selling Dim Lights and Ancient Rampart shields on server, that's much more money and much faster than farming Annelia. That's crazy talk.

Even 45k hp people in our guild have proofs chest.

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:35pm

Quoted from "kynamdoan;574149"

It's more like we're running KBN trying to get 2nd boss down. And why would we do GCH for chests when virtually our whole guild has GCH, ToSH, or Proofs chest? We've already started selling Dim Lights and Ancient Rampart shields on server, that's much more money and much faster than farming Annelia. That's crazy talk.

Even 45k hp people in our guild have proofs chest.


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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:39pm

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in YOUR guild. Not everyone is so fortunate.


I was just responding to your comment that you don't think Palenque could do Annelia...and you voluntarily left this guild? Anyways, Palenque can do Annelia, what we can't do is 2nd boss KBNHM atm, hopefully that changes soon.

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:43pm

Quoted from "gigilomann;574151"

in YOUR guild. Not everyone is so fortunate.


Not every guild pushes. Not about being fortunate, other than being fortunate enough to have guildies who don't mind dying to figure things out.

But instead most look on with envy and QQ over what they're missing, but not willing to work for.

Saw a guild on Reni trying out a world boss, albeit with a small group. Told our guildies to stay away and not interrupt. As long as they figure out things for themselves and not handed strats/info on a silver platter, I don't mind competition. Keeps things interesting.

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Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 1:45pm

Quoted from "Ravesden;574154"

Saw a guild on Reni trying out a world boss, albeit with a small group. Told our guildies to stay away and not interrupt. As long as they figure out things for themselves and not handed strats/info on a silver platter, I don't mind competition. Keeps things interesting.


I wouldn't mind this if our guild could get a hippo spawn :) I'm sure we could down him, as to where we hae a tankt hat can take the hits and the dps, And i'll happily die over and over until we figure it out ^^
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