Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "ruisen2000;574175"

While I'm glad they are finally doing some damage control with the ruby shop, it has been too late to save my guild. The marketing decisions over the coarse of late Ch IV and Ch V for the IS has caused more than 3 quarters of my guild to search for greener patches.

Siege being completely borked has caused many of our players to think about leaving - but implementing price hike in IS during those time has only cemented their decisions. The Ch V ruby shop catastrophe and lack of diamond sales was too much for several of those who stayed. We have so few people now due to Frogster's marketing decisions that our guild has been dissolved. This could have all been prevented if player feedback could have been listen to, rather than plough headfirst into more decisions that alienate players.

Thanks Frogster.

-One lonely and angry mage

Join Palenque, It's where the lonely congregate.

Sucks to lose friends, sorry man. There are still several active guilds on Govinda though, keep your head up, and hopefully make some new friends.

Yeah... and those of us who lived through Autopsy, 5-6 crashes per SW and 50 diamond puries find the whole "siege being borked", complaints about a 2-quest chain being glitchy and the "ack, it is overpriced" to be highly amusing.

The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars....

Well, there are some goods out of those bad sales team decisions (it is not marketing really, it was sales team decision to 'experiment' <<-- word used by Dio) - for example Rusty's alt is leader of once famous and amongst oldest guild. (only few
moved to other guilds, everyone else left the game.

Last weekend checked gaming magazines, no word or ad about RoM. Wonder how they plan to attract new players, and I hope they are not gonna rely on hope that current player would suggest their friends to come into game - it will not happen.

Rusty, how many times did you end up without SW rewards?

Don't get me wrong, I love the game and we did adjust playing habits to crash less, and to deal with other problems (like for example, if you doing family connections in game, reboot before you exchange certificate as if you crash, it will never work)...

Quoted from "vfwiffo;574190"

Yeah... and those of us who lived through Autopsy, 5-6 crashes per SW and 50 diamond puries find the whole "siege being borked", complaints about a 2-quest chain being glitchy and the "ack, it is overpriced" to be highly amusing.

I'd agree about the first two, but the overpriced CS really isn't something that's outrageous to complain about >.>. The diamond shop became cheaper, but the ruby shop became much more expensive, and for anyone that spends or has spent RL money on this game, they know that money does not go far. The item shop being overpriced is a legitimate complaint, whereas some of the other complaints on the forum are not.

Quoted from "gigilomann;574178"

Join Palenque, It's where the lonely congregate.

Heh, Palenque is a ghost town, I'm down to 5 players in my guild and the only way any of us will get our elites done is to rely on the "Bigger Guilds". I do my daily's I do siege and I gtfo, the rest of the day my toon sits afk.

yea, marketing dept better get on the ball soon and attract some fresh blood. so dead the 4 left in my guild are just hangin like chads...

Quoted from "effervescent;574202"

I'd agree about the first two, but the overpriced CS really isn't something that's outrageous to complain about >.>. The diamond shop became cheaper, but the ruby shop became much more expensive, and for anyone that spends or has spent RL money on this game, they know that money does not go far. The item shop being overpriced is a legitimate complaint, whereas some of the other complaints on the forum are not.

What? The CS didn't get cheaper only puris did. Fact is at regular price 25 diamonds is a dollar. So $1.50 for a reset ticket is not over priced?

It's unfortunate that things haven't improved here. The game is really good, or at least it was in Chapter 4, but it's too expensive.

I really like the League of Legends f2p model, and was hoping Frogster would eventually adopt something similar. By this I mean that you can truly play for free while paying for value added features and the dollars you pump in don't effect your performance. I probably would've spent more money on things like aggs and enjoyed the game more than I ever did here. Buy hey, who would want Riot's success?

Quoted from "Collusion;574224"

It's unfortunate that things haven't improved here. The game is really good, or at least it was in Chapter 4, but it's too expensive.

I really like the League of Legends f2p model, and was hoping Frogster would eventually adopt something similar. By this I mean that you can truly play for free while paying for value added features and the dollars you pump in don't effect your performance. I probably would've spent more money on things like aggs and enjoyed the game more than I ever did here. Buy hey, who would want Riot's success?

I know where you are coming from and most companies would look around for what other successful companies are doing.
In this case, I don't think MOBAs and traditional MMOs like RoM can really be compared easily.
I played RoM since beta and I always thought of the cash shop as a way for people with no free time to somehow catch up in terms of gear and stats. Even with that said, I haven't felt the pull to buy diamonds frequently which means SOMETHING is wrong with the cash shop as is now. Price may be the factor and I am not pointing at the ruby shop which is lowering its prices finally. Maybe players that buy diamonds no longer see the benefit/power of each diamond bought as worth it versus the cost - money-wise.

As for aggs go, that is probably the best feature which regularly pulls on my tokens or diamonds from cedric. Agree with you here.

Quoted from "regentego;574222"

What? The CS didn't get cheaper only puris did. Fact is at regular price 25 diamonds is a dollar. So $1.50 for a reset ticket is not over priced?

Point me to where I said the cash shop isn't overpriced. I said things became cheaper. Not everything, but there are some sale items that were much more expensive before I quit, whereas some others did become more expensive, such as Daily Reset Tickets. I've always been an advocate of how expensive the cash shop is, and that hasn't changed. Point of that post was that talking about the cash shop costing too much isn't useless whining -- it's legit.

Quoted from "engelixe;574217"

Heh, Palenque is a ghost town, I'm down to 5 players in my guild and the only way any of us will get our elites done is to rely on the "Bigger Guilds". I do my daily's I do siege and I gtfo, the rest of the day my toon sits afk.

What guild are you in? Hae you thought about joining a dif guild? O.o

Just completely clueless and brainless person would place sale ad from last night. I mean 23 dias for pot for your pet?! (Using Ebi's easy math calc, a dollar per pot) It would work if top level for pet was L15 or L20. But at higher level you need many of those and with poor population you either gonna get those by farming pet eggs yourself (on alt mostly) or pay >30 K per every 50 XP points for pet eggs in ah (mages atm lowest on Reni is 30K per egg - don't believe that they sell much tho) and wait 2 years to do it, or opt as everyone else for miller's cakes.

Just to explain what I mean, my pet is L33 atm, not spending gold on leveling it as it is hard(er) to make gold on low populated server atm. To get from L33 to L50 your pet needs 462,042XP or close to 460 dollars for item when on sale?! WTF? Just to level damn pet. (it is over 600 dollars to level it from lvl 1)

Please, oh, PLEASE buy calculator to sales folks, and HAVE THEM PLAY GAME, but not like GM, but like regular player.

If game takes 460 dollars JUST to level 17 levels for pet, don't you think that is damn stupidly expensive??? And you call it 'sale'?!

This potion should not be more then 1 dias - and when on sale, give 2 or 3 for dias - THAT and only THAT way you will SELL them in large quantities!!!

IMHO it looks like both sales and marketing team is doing everything to get us out of game... (and probably to play that other game they are obviously playing)

/rant off...

Quoted from "RoMage;574254"

Just completely clueless and brainless person would place sale ad from last night. I mean 23 dias for pot for your pet?! (Using Ebi's easy math calc, a dollar per pot) It would work if top level for pet was L15 or L20. But at higher level you need many of those and with poor population you either gonna get those by farming pet eggs yourself (on alt mostly) or pay >30 K per every 50 XP points for pet eggs in ah (mages atm lowest on Reni is 30K per egg - don't believe that they sell much tho) and wait 2 years to do it, or opt as everyone else for miller's cakes.

Just to explain what I mean, my pet is L33 atm, not spending gold on leveling it as it is hard(er) to make gold on low populated server atm. To get from L33 to L50 your pet needs 462,042XP or close to 460 dollars for item when on sale?! WTF? Just to level damn pet. (it is over 600 dollars to level it from lvl 1)

Please, oh, PLEASE buy calculator to sales folks, and HAVE THEM PLAY GAME, but not like GM, but like regular player.

If game takes 460 dollars JUST to level 17 levels for pet, don't you think that is damn stupidly expensive??? And you call it 'sale'?!

This potion should not be more then 1 dias - and when on sale, give 2 or 3 for dias - THAT and only THAT way you will SELL them in large quantities!!!

IMHO it looks like both sales and marketing team is doing everything to get us out of game... (and probably to play that other game they are obviously playing)

/rant off...

Or you could just...not buy it. Vote with your wallet as they say. I'm sure if they saw that no one was buying an item they would stop putting it up, at least at the price listed.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;574300"

Or you could just...not buy it. Vote with your wallet as they say. I'm sure if they saw that no one was buying an item they would stop putting it up, at least at the price listed.

So assumption would be that people are buying those?! and spending hundred of dollars to level pet... as those did not change in price since I am here. Don't know if price was different before.

Sure, I did never buy one, even if we could get 75 dias from Cedric, still it is way overpriced.

Quoted from "Quaffy2;574300"

Or you could just...not buy it. Vote with your wallet as they say. I'm sure if they saw that no one was buying an item they would stop putting it up, at least at the price listed.

When Osha/Indigo tried to vote with their wallet over the housing chest issue last year, the sales team responded by putting the free house chests on the item shop sale on a nearly weekly basis.

Since the issue has been mostly resolved, we've seen those chests on sale maybe 2 or 3 times.

Just sayin.

Quoted from "flyingltj;574310"

When Osha/Indigo tried to vote with their wallet over the housing chest issue last year, the sales team responded by putting the free house chests on the item shop sale on a nearly weekly basis.

Since the issue has been mostly resolved, we've seen those chests on sale maybe 2 or 3 times.

Just sayin.

While that may be true, I don't think they separate the sales figures based on server or region. They may just look at the total number. So while you guys weren't buying an item, who is to say people in EU or other servers were also not buying. I really can't say one way or the other without having the actual sales figures.

Though I am making the assumption that they would try to sell things that people buy and modify the things people aren't buying. This could be a wrong assumption...

Speaking of assumptions, can we settle if we are pushing the "sales department is completely oblivious to anything in game" line or "sales department is doing damage control" line? I am getting cognitively dissonant here.