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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 3:41am

Siege Poll

Siege War changes

A total of 63 Votes have been submitted.

35%

90% damage reduction (22)

21%

75% damage reduction (13)

40%

Put use of hack shield in the game (25)

22%

Stop the mercenaries (14)

22%

Ban guilds who point drop WHOLE guild (14)

46%

Stop the lag fest in siege (29)

Things that would be nice for siege, vote for this and no trolling, try to be constructive, tyvm.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 4:12am

Hackshield is an awful idea, and won't fix anything, and will probably cause people to quit.

That being said, I'm not really taking this poll seriously so I'm voting for the obscure "Stop the Mercenaries" because it's not really relevant at all anymore since this is no longer Chapter 2.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 4:16am

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what kefkai said..and what if your guild has only 6 people in it? ><

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 4:37am

Something needs to be done period. I know of other game makers who are actually in the siege type play to watch for hacker/cheating activity so why does this one not do that? With all the reports of issues & for so long why hasn't the gamemaker make the necessary adjustments? There needs to be a hack shield, all reputable game makers should have one. The only ones that would oppose to a hack shield are the hacker/cheaters so whats the problem if you're not either? If you leave because of something inplace to keep the game honest from cheaters then that speaks volumes of you. The idea of reduction of damage could be a good thing to some degree after all isn't seige also suppose to be about statagy and not the expoit type of stratagy, treching a gate is something a monkey can do. There should be a ban of pets, all pets including warden pet if for no other reason to help reduce lag. Fixing the lag and putting up a hack/cheat shield would be the top of my list to help siege. I personally would rather loose every game playing honestly than to cheat so I can not understand someone who has to cheat at a game like this. I wouldn't mind being on a board/group with the gamemaker to help with the input with fixing this game.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 4:51am

Quoted from "lavendersage;576310"

Something needs to be done period. I know of other game makers who are actually in the siege type play to watch for hacker/cheating activity so why does this one not do that? With all the reports of issues & for so long why hasn't the gamemaker make the necessary adjustments? There needs to be a hack shield, all reputable game makers should have one. The only ones that would oppose to a hack shield are the hacker/cheaters so whats the problem if you're not either? If you leave because of something inplace to keep the game honest from cheaters then that speaks volumes of you. The idea of reduction of damage could be a good thing to some degree after all isn't seige also suppose to be about statagy and not the expoit type of stratagy, treching a gate is something a monkey can do. There should be a ban of pets, all pets including warden pet if for no other reason to help reduce lag. Fixing the lag and putting up a hack/cheat shield would be the top of my list to help siege. I personally would rather loose every game playing honestly than to cheat so I can not understand someone who has to cheat at a game like this. I wouldn't mind being on a board/group with the gamemaker to help with the input with fixing this game.


Your idea of making pets bannable is a bad idea. Not letting players use cash shop type pets, fine. The only pets players need in siege are the egg pets and the warden pet (this simply because taking it away gimps the class and makes it unfair for that one class).

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 5:02am

the opposing of a hackshield isnt ppl not wanting hacks around. it's what software capable of detecting player side memory editing is like, the problems it causes, the support system needed for players' reinstalling windows from it and paying the license fee to creators like nprotect. it's not easy, not cheap and not friendly stuff. the manpower required is....not something froggieforge has.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 5:17am

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the opposing of a hackshield isnt ppl not wanting hacks around. it's what software capable of detecting player side memory editing is like, the problems it causes, the support system needed for players' reinstalling windows from it and paying the license fee to creators like nprotect. it's not easy, not cheap and not friendly stuff. the manpower required is....not something froggieforge has.


I agree with this. Also I've seen you in a diff guild before paz so i Agree with the banning of Shadow guilding/sandbagging ;)

Also, if 90% damage reduction goes into effect, pdef/mdef and healing must also be dropped as well. sht jsut let us all go into seige and not alow us to use buffs or pots or immunes and well see alot mor epeople go priest secondary jsut for the immune ;p
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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 5:17am

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the opposing of a hackshield isnt ppl not wanting hacks around. it's what software capable of detecting player side memory editing is like, the problems it causes, the support system needed for players' reinstalling windows from it and paying the license fee to creators like nprotect. it's not easy, not cheap and not friendly stuff. the manpower required is....not something froggieforge has.


My big problem with it is it doesn't fix anything and it's easy to bypass, the problems should always be solved server side by developers (my guess why they don't is because it's cheaper not to, more data flowing back and forth from client to the server).

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 7:28am

Thoroughly useless QQ poll, since it's set up as multiple choice.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 7:36am

most game gaurds just stop 3rd party programs which is mostly our only problem.

Yes it's not super hard to bypass if it's an actual hack but just a simple program thats supposed to run with the game? It would detect and end process.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 7:33pm

Quoted from "pazuzzu;576312"

the opposing of a hackshield isnt ppl not wanting hacks around. it's what software capable of detecting player side memory editing is like, the problems it causes, the support system needed for players' reinstalling windows from it and paying the license fee to creators like nprotect. it's not easy, not cheap and not friendly stuff. the manpower required is....not something froggieforge has.

Get your sw points up so we can siege u ffs

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 7:58pm

Another option that should have been added to this poll would be "Make most buff pots & immunity pots unable to be used in siege battlefield."

That would go a long way toward making siege much more about skill than how much gold is dropped on pots every night.
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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 8:08pm

Quoted from "flyingltj;576413"

Another option that should have been added to this poll would be "Make most buff pots & immunity pots unable to be used in siege battlefield."

That would go a long way toward making siege much more about skill than how much gold is dropped on pots every night.


That would still have the same results as currently, those with plenty of gold would still be stronger going into siege.
Pots are available to everyone in the game not just diamond players or end gamers.
If players support the game by purchasing diamonds with real cash or by gold to improve their characters, they should have an advantage over people who just use quest gear.

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Tuesday, November 6th 2012, 8:53pm

Quoted from "refugee;576416"

That would still have the same results as currently, those with plenty of gold would still be stronger going into siege.
Pots are available to everyone in the game not just diamond players or end gamers.
If players support the game by purchasing diamonds with real cash or by gold to improve their characters, they should have an advantage over people who just use quest gear.


Gold, not diamonds.

But forgiven for the confusion seeing as we have (off the top of my head) ten different forms of currency in this game. Easy to get two mixed up.

& wow... I wonder what siege is like in your bracket if you're still seeing people using quest gear :)

Im guessing you dont have the chance to have the problem of when you debuff a player they go from 3 full rows to 2 1/2 rows instead of being... ya know... debuffed.
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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 1:44am

Hell no to hack shields. They cause more problems than they solve.

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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 6:26am

This is what you get with programs like gameguard

Link to Raiderz U.S forum (run by PWE, not by gamforge berlin, thats the euro side)

http://raiderz-forum.perfectworld.com/sh…ad.php?t=751611

Wonderul Gamegaurd issue that causes GG not to update it seems like lol

I'd rather be able to actually play the dang game rather than not too, no matter what.

Gameguard can take a seat right between the 2 dumpsters of idiotic and moronic.

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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 6:38am

Tonight my little guild of 5 ppl went against a guild of 12, we were tie/winning right up until 3 mins before the end. All of a sudden our crystal was taken. All of our gates were up. Boom we run back to defend our crystal and lost the towers we were holding. Siege gives me a migraine.

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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 4:04pm

Hack Shields would be a nice idea. The only pple who would rage quit are those that actually tell the computer to play for them. But I think the main issue on siege is Guards / Pets entering castle with the gate up and flame / electric towers shooting through walls. Is it so hard to program a sprite collision routine on these days? I used to program in Assembly that were 2 line code.

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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 5:22pm

I voted for reduce lag fest. I noticed that if zoomed up close to an invis tower, it has the same effect as the old black orbs in Xav and drops you to 0.5 - 1 FPS. Its no wonder siege lags so much more than anything that I've ever played.
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Wednesday, November 7th 2012, 6:12pm

The damage reduction will lead to people having HP stated gear, each battle would be r/k s/k fighting each other with 250k hp, battles would be epic 6 minute ordeals. As for hacks, honestly rarely see them enough to make me rage. Mercenaries are pretty much gone, its not a problem at all. As for point dropping, even that happens less. Guilds fluctuate points so much, we are at 4k right now and expecting to get stomped sometime this week.

Its a fun 1 hour per night, I say keep it simple.