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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 7:44pm

Quoted from "RoMage;581473"


@bratty - what is recon 7 selling for on your server?


Anywheres from 20-30m usually for recon vii.
I would say the current average before this sale is 25m

But during this sale you can buy a recon vi for 495 dias or around 30m
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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 8:03pm

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Taking a step back from the giant middle finger that was just presented to the community's face, and trying to think about this logically:

10 total runes. 495 for all 10. 49.5 diamonds per rune.

So lvl 5 runes, at basically 50 diamonds each is supposed to be 40% off?

Now Im just a simple hyperchicken from a backwoods asteroid, but it looks like what they're claiming would be "full price" for one lvl 5 rune would be roughly 69.3 diamonds.

Actually, no - that 50 diamonds is the price after discount so to find the original price: 50/60*100 = 83.333...diamonds!

The sale is a complete and utter rip off whichever numbers we use though. :D
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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 8:15pm

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Domt you get it yet? Dio is part of this machine, she intentionally plays good cop while laughing everytime you praise her, she knows all the sales a month in advance, builds them up like thanksgiving. Then comes out apologizing. Her job is player retention, she is only playing devils advocate because that is her job. Trust me though she is as much in on it as the sales department.


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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 8:24pm

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I don't think it matters to Zid. Even if she was the head of the sales team, he'd compliemnt her.

And can we get new sales team for christmas please? One that knows a $26 package and $79 rune is way too much?


Ruisen, everytime i ask help, question to Dionaea, she's always nice enough to help out and figures things out. She's done more for us than any other that was ever there. She is the devil'S advocate and there probably nothing she can do, but she tries and keep us informed the most she is allowed too.

Ya if this is the sale it sucks, monkeys and frogs picking the sales again, what ca i say, morons and idiots in the sales team working together. They want to help new players, loll with crappy overpriced sales, sad. I give more away to new players in game than Gameforge, sad but true. But heck clueless people can never improve, because you need a brain to do that.

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 8:38pm

I now know, and believe, that I play a game where the management = a bunch of hamsters who think they are cute enough to let the consumers buy such overpriced bullshi-

We should not even have to provide details explaining why its overpriced, if they would open their wallets and say.. "HM WOULD I PAY THIS MUCH FOR THIS SALE........."

There is no constructive criticism in regards to this thread (because none is needed. Okay nvm, just make the gameforge OPEN THEIR DAMNED EYES). I am just scared as hell that the Christmas sale is going to utter


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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 9:09pm

And that would be nothing new... just repetition of last year Christmas.

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 9:22pm

Quoted from "RoMage;581530"

And that would be nothing new... just repetition of last year Christmas.


I thought we did get decent sales last christmas, with 12 diamond puris (back when they were 25 on sale), 40 diamond cleaners (when they used to be 199 on sale at that time), etc.
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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 9:31pm

wow so ridiculous and overpriced
why did you guys even make that recon survey to begin with if this is going to the end result. 495 dias for a recon 6 is insane and you guys wonder why there aren't many more newer players

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 9:34pm

Quoted from "Nito;581455"

What a great sale!!

When i made my recon 8's long time ago i think i paid 69 diamonds per recon 7. i just wish i would have made recon 9's long ago.

I feel sorry for the newer players,its only gonna cost them about 25,000 diamonds to get what cost me 690 diamonds. Who said this game was expensive to play?? Its free to play dont you know??


I would have forked over 69 diamonds for a recon 7. Was looking forward to getting one after seeing there was a survey regarding this rune. Now that the result is here, I sadly will be going without a recon. I am disgusted with the price, but just as much so with the whole package deal idea they have been doing lately.

Here is me clutching my precious diamonds like smeegle, reconless and disappointed...

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 10:11pm

Smeegle? I googled it and the first several hits were at urbandictionary and... well, don't do it at work, kids, not unless you want to explain to your managers why you are doing that type of thing at work.

On Reni, average selling price of Recon VII on AH is 9m. The numbers quoted by bratty are silly high.
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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 10:32pm

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Smeegle? I googled it and the first several hits were at urbandictionary and... well, don't do it at work, kids, not unless you want to explain to your managers why you are doing that type of thing at work.

On Reni, average selling price of Recon VII on AH is 9m. The numbers quoted by bratty are silly high.




I have been a rune hoarder for years I buy cheap and sell high. I sold one of my Recon VII for 22 mil recently, and paid 59 diamonds for it back in the day. Heck the 12 diamond runes from last month I am getting 5 per for some.

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 10:36pm

Haha "Smeegle".. I think someone watched Lord of the Rings movie, instead of reading the book. :) "Smeagol" in text. And that explains why Rusty can't find it.

As for the prices quoted by Bratty (artemis) and Rusty (reni), it wouldn't surprise me me if there's a very large difference between servers. On Artemis, I don't follow recon prices (i'm a tank), but most things worthwhile for me I expect to pay 20m+. Block X & Aggression X runes at 12-15m each. Unstatted OD gear from KBN hard *starts* somewhere around 30m, if you can find it. 10m for under dura. Good stats are like 6-10m for dragon wilderness. And because I can acquire some of the high value stuff from playing the game, selling it to buy the other high priced stuff isn't bad.

495 dias * 60,000 each = 29.7m ... for a recon 6? .. I dunno, but I'm thinking a recon 6 wasn't in the league of an OD KBN hard piece prior to this. My guess is anyone with 30m available to them already bought something better than this off the AH.

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 10:37pm

I see no incentive to actually buying any of these packages, they are obviously overpriced and just don't make any sense when you look at how much $ they actually cost.

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Tuesday, December 18th 2012, 10:41pm

These sales make no sense... but why are they still doing them? Only reason I can figure is because people are buying. Who the heck are these people? Please tell me so I can kindly shake some sense into them.

Yah, I feel sorry for new players. They might go ahead and make a Recon VI for $20 or w/e insane price they are, but then they'll probably be so upset they quit when they see everyone else has VIIs and VIIIs.

Maybe they figure recons don't matter anymore, since they are making fail instances like KBN where the trash does random ports/charges anyway (it's like trash after 2nd boss clops for those that don't know KBN -- not that anyone knows clops either).

I don't care, have my reckons.. but sucks for new players.

Also sucks that us old-timers get nothing from this sale. And yet again they ignore the "we don't want packages" request and combine all kinds of junk in one package. I would probably buy some angel sighs and phoenixes if I didn't have to get all the other junk, and if the price really was 40% off or more.

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Wednesday, December 19th 2012, 12:20am

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On Reni, average selling price of Recon VII on AH is 9m. The numbers quoted by bratty are silly high.


is that a normal price or a rather high one? depending on which EU server you look, you pay 30-50M for a Recon VI :D (ok with current diamond prices around 50k on my old server the offered package would come out at 25M - but find a diamond seller first...)

We'bought Recon VII's from quitting players back in spring/summer when TERA and D3 started and paid around 80-100M per which was rather cheap and we bought them to stock them up for guild use)... nowadays these kind of rune gets sold by quitting players for real money only (with a few exceptions) be it illegitimate or not ;)


Could be changing a bit now with the package, but even for EU this package is priced 7 times higher than the very old offer from 2 years ago which was 2 Shield V and 1 Shield VI for 99 Diamonds...

Advance runes on itself are utter worthless nowadays on tier5, tier8 came like what? 12 diamonds? 5*(12/125) diamonds is what these are worth of the package today! Almost a HALF diamond for all 5 runes :D

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Wednesday, December 19th 2012, 12:36am

Quoted from "YomanROM;581552"

is that a normal price or a rather high one? depending on which EU server you look, you pay 30-50M for a Recon VI :D (ok with current diamond prices around 50k on my old server the offered package would come out at 25M - but find a diamond seller first...)


Recent sale is 6m, average 9m, median 10m (actually high 10m too). Reason it is cheaper in US is because we had them back when Frogs US run the show and they are still floating around. I am sure many are lost in abandoned accounts, but enough are in market to keep price reasonable.

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Could be changing a bit now with the package, but even for EU this package is priced 7 times higher than the very old offer from 2 years ago which was 2 Shield V and 1 Shield VI for 99 Diamonds...


Danger of good sale is that other sales after it are not considered as good. And of course if something is unbound, people stock up like you did. Then it's like putting genie back in the bottle. The only way to control it is to limit supply down to zero for a long time, but that creates haves and have-nots and satisfies nobody (witness the PVP forum thread on rice dumplings).
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Wednesday, December 19th 2012, 1:39am

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We'bought Recon VII's from quitting players back in spring/summer when TERA and D3 started and paid around 80-100M per which was rather cheap and we bought them to stock them up for guild use)... nowadays these kind of rune gets sold by quitting players for real money only (with a few exceptions) be it illegitimate or not ;)




Wow, and I thought EU prices were lower lol. Recon 7 were going for 20m about 2 months ago. I sold one for 19m back then, and was gone in 1 day. Though with even more recon starvation, its probably even more expensive now >.>
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Wednesday, December 19th 2012, 3:31am

how? the Shield5+6 package was the only time ever EU had rather easy access to Recon6+ - i remember vaguely a Shield V sale even longer ago) - unless you count grinding treasure game with whatnot amount of chars in the hope of shield or recon3 in ... (and getting 125 of them to upgrade to t6 lol....)

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Wednesday, December 19th 2012, 3:39am

Thalia - AUS,

Recon X (10) sells for 10m :)


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We had our own GM's Noir, Sock and Chickpeas that actually cared about what the COMMUNITY needed :) now its just Sales team trying to over price and make more money. (although i fail to see the point how they are making money off it, most of us are smart)
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Wednesday, December 19th 2012, 3:57am

Buy them all and wait a year or two. You'll easily triple or quadruple your money if I see a pattern correctly.

Next year we might get shield IIIx5 and advance IIIx5 for 695 diamonds after our 75% deduction!