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Friday, December 28th 2012, 5:44pm

Quoted from "Dkjester;582796"

I really want someone to explain this to me... cause maybe i am just not getting it. Shield runes from what i know are useless with the exception of making recon runes right? That brings me to my head scracthing moment....

WHY!?!?!?!? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY even bother about shield runes? Why care about them? Why sell them?

Why not just sell recon runes. I just dont get it.

Course i may not know some seekrit reason.


Yes, that is the main purpose of Shields, to make Recons. Which, yes, begs the question, why not sell recons and cut out the middleman, especially since the matching Advance rune is not available for sale.

Only excuse I see is that advance is still makeable, as far as we know. Shield is not. So, if people want to make recons, they CAN. But at these prices, I don't see it happening.

Back on main topic. Usually, there are good sales and bad sales. Many people pick on bad sales and rant and rave to the point where they can be assumed to be incapable of civil discussion, at which point they are ignored. Should I be surprised how many think that their communication is more effective is they come across as utter lunatics? Probably not.

But, there is second component to this sale. Gashas are normally the focus of displeasure, but those might not be all bad. I'd like to know if the high fail rate reported by CammoXD is typical or just a run of bad luck. So, once they are out, I'd appreciate someone commenting on this subject.

Finally, AU and EU page was edited with this:

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In addition to this promotion, we are adding a flash offer: from December the 28th 2012, 2.00 pm AEST, to December the 29th 2012, 2.00 pm AEST, find the very popular “Advanced Faith Jewels” (from +6 on) and the “Improved Faith Jewels” (from +12 on) for your armors, weapons and accessories in the “Special Offers” section of the Item Shop.


This might be decent if the prices are good. Anyone wants to pop over and check?

Edit: Fine... I'll do it myself. Seems like audience participation in this forum is limited to whining. Not unexpected.

Advanced jewels x5 = 59 dias for armor/acc, 79 weapons.
Enhanced jewels x5 = 99 dias for armor/acc, 149 weapon

Also available in token shop - 236/316 for Advanced, 396/596 for Enhanced. Not good prices, since 1 dia=20 tokens, and these are 40x of dia cost, not 20x.

Note to GF: Can you guys actually not make up terminology for once?? They are not "Improved Faith Jewels", they are "Enhanced Faith Jewels". It is not a "Wall VIII" gasha, it is "Block VIII" gasha - because it has a chance to give you Block runes, not the non-existent Wall runes. Things like that make the accusations that the people who make the sales do not play the game sound a lot more plausible.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 6:45pm

One thing i see here, new year is coming and they still have no clue in sales, who in his right mind would buy a Shield IV for 99 diamonds?? you guys are on crack in sales department. Tier VII should have been the least. And seeing your randomness crap from EU 1 extra item pet 10 bought? really?

Funny how they didn't put the prices on the jewels, loll. They will post it and run away from keyboard till next maintenance, loll.

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 7:13pm

especially w/ the neg aggro adjustment? ppl have been selling off their recons on reni...

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 7:26pm

The shield runes are hilarious. We thought the VI's were bad and overpriced. Cause they were. Now we get IV's for 99 dias and no IV advances. Lol.

Come on, you gotta know that no GM or CM has anything to do with sales. I may not be a Dio fangirl on Zidlef's scale (aka, I don't hide behind her house), but even I know she's smarter than to have anything to do with this. I think the whole "GF has a sales team somewhere in Germany that plays FPS's" thing is dead on....

And apparently they're too busy getting headshots in COD to pay any attention to what a shield rune actually does, how runes get combined, what we do with them, or how much they used to cost.

A trained monkey would do a better job than this.

Now, as far as the gashas go, I personally like gashas, since they tend to come with consumables that I like to stock up on. We'll just have to see how the fail rate is, and also, how much those jewels are going to be. I reaaaaallly need to stock up on jewels. Then we'll be able to tell if the whole sale is fail, or just the shield runes.

I just hope to god they do another double diamond sale for New Years, since... well... most of us get our Christmas money, you know, AT CHRISTMAS. I have Zeevex I'd like to redeem lol.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 7:33pm

Fan you put your finger on it, they have no clue. And that is not the back of Dio's house, ok, it's the side window mouhahaha ;-)

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 8:41pm

Quoted from "zidlef;582813"

Fan you put your finger on it, they have no clue. And that is not the back of Dio's house, ok, it's the side window mouhahaha ;-)


*Closes curtains* :eek:

I know its probably needless to say but I am collecting all constructive feedback in regards to this sale.

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 8:42pm

If I was her, I would be TERRIFIED. And I would have a restraining order.

But who knows, I guess it beats being hated.

Man, this being online at work thing ROCKS. You won't be able to get rid of me now. Mwahahahahahah!
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:03pm

Quoted from "Dionaea;582820"

I am collecting all constructive feedback in regards to this sale.


That is going to be a rather small collection. :p

But now we know why so little feedback makes it to the powers that be. Dio has been filtering out everything non-constructive.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:05pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo;582822"

That is going to be a rather small collection. :p


Shouldn't take too long, a bonus for Dionaea during her busy day.

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:17pm

Gasha 'success' rates are abysmal. Having purchased nearly 30 without a permanent mount, I'm skeptical.

Why not just go back to the days where you could simply buy the runes directly from the item shop? Instead of all this milarky having to deal with buying gashas and hoping you're the 1/100 person who actually gets something besides the guaranteed item...

And put some other runes up for goodness sake, let me buy up some Dauntlessness VIIs!

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:21pm

The sle team needs to do some math and check what the current lvl of runes is for most servers.then figure out how much in real money to make these from the lvl they are putting on sale, last they need to think would they put that much money in to make one.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:23pm

lol.. wait.. you only bought 30 gotchas??? dood.. back in the day, I spent 2k dias on gotchas when they had perm backpacks... you know what I ended up with? 30 bp III's and crap-ton of guild castle port runes.

basically, the gotcha rate is horrible unless they're screwed up & give you everything in the orb... & that's happened.. 1 time

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:33pm

Quoted from "Dionaea;582820"

*Closes curtains* :eek:

I know its probably needless to say but I am collecting all constructive feedback in regards to this sale.


Constructive feedback was placed in the thread linked in the sale - http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=77266

Clearly collecting more will be of no use.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 9:36pm

Quoted from "Zombolini;582825"

Gasha 'success' rates are abysmal. Having purchased nearly 30 without a permanent mount, I'm skeptical.

Why not just go back to the days where you could simply buy the runes directly from the item shop? Instead of all this milarky having to deal with buying gashas and hoping you're the 1/100 person who actually gets something besides the guaranteed item...


I don't see a permanent mount offered in any of the gashas. That leads me to conclude that the experience was with some other gasha. Since the chance of getting other items is not the same across all gashas, that experience is kinda sorta utterly completely 100% irrelevant.

That does not mean those are high probability gashas, just that starting with a bad premise will lead you to bad conclusion. But, reading ycavan's message, I see you are not the only one making the same error.

Quoted from "sertet;582828"

Constructive feedback was placed in the thread linked in the sale


Funny, I don't see any mention in the thread about feedback "in regards to this sale". I highlighted the important part to make it easier.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 10:01pm

that was my point, rusty... gotchas are the debbil! Are there decent ones? sure. somewhere there exists another bugged gotcha that gives all of the items listed... somewhere

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 10:17pm

And for the people (like me) who may have absolutely no idea what all these runes do.. Off to RunesDatabase I go. :-)


Shield IV
Tier 4
Runes
+18 Wisdom
+14 Magical Defense

Block VIII
Tier 8
Runes
+62 Stamina
+50 Defense

Aggression VIII
Tier 8
Runes
+62 Strength
+50 Physical Attack

Wrath VII
Tier 7
Runes
+119 Damage
This attribute is effective only for the weapon that this rune has been embedded in.

Advance VIII
Tier 8
Runes
+62 Intelligence
+50 Magical Attack

Ferocity VII
Tier 7
Runes
Worth: 1 Gold
+234 Maximum HP
+36 Stamina

Curse VII
Tier 7
Runes
-6 % Casting Speed
This attribute is effective only for the weapon that this rune has been embedded in. (Can't be embedded in ranged weapons)

Raid VII
Tier 7
Runes
-6 % Attack Speed
This attribute is effective only for the weapon that this rune has been embedded in. (Can't be embedded in ranged weapons)

Enlightenment VII
Tier 7
Runes
+31 All Attributes

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 10:27pm

Quoted from "ycavan;582830"

that was my point, rusty... gotchas are the debbil! Are there decent ones? sure. somewhere there exists another bugged gotcha that gives all of the items listed... somewhere


Let me explain what I mean. Back during the good old FA "sell gashas every week" days, you could clearly see the pattern. Each item in gasha has a % chance of showing up. The first item is usually 100%, the other ones are rarer. But each has its own rarity, set during the sale definition. If you remember 2nd birthday sale, the items came in gashas, each had 100% chance. It was not bugged, it was specifically set that way.

Some items are common, some are not. Pulling 300 diamond mount out of 20 diamond gasha will happen about as often as I win Powerball jackpot. That is why you usually see server announcement like "Sekrit pulled another wartiger mount out of the wartiger mount gashas, that lucky dog". On the other hand, that basic XP charm will drop every other time.

Same was with perm-backpack. I was getting average of over two items out of backpack gasha, yet it took over 20 gashas to get the backpack. Backpack was just a rare, low probability part of that particular gasha.

That does not mean this will be high-probability gashaa. That is not known yet. But generalizing from "some items in gashas are low probability" to "all items in gashas are low probability" is not how these things work.

Quoted from "Southern;582833"

And for the people (like me) who may have absolutely no idea what all these runes do.. Off to RunesDatabase I go. :-)


Good practice in general and valid during your similar complaint in another sale thread; but this time they mentioned the rune info. You probably missed part of announcement.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 10:44pm

we supposed to skip paying rent in order to get a recon rune in this game??

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Friday, December 28th 2012, 10:49pm

Anyway, gashas are up. So far out of 4 gashas, I got 1 with no-bonus, 2 with AT charges and 1 with 3 runes. So, they don't seem like low-probability gashas, admittedly out of very small sample.

Update:

6 gashas = 6 puries, 3 AT charges, 1 3-rune, 1 1-rune.

IMO, well worth the ruby loss. Looks like tagnfrag also has fairly good luck.
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Friday, December 28th 2012, 10:55pm

Quoted from "vfwiffo;582842"

Anyway, gashas are up. So far out of 4 gashas, I got 1 with no-bonus, 2 with AT charges and 1 with 3 runes. So, they don't seem like low-probability gashas, admittedly out of very small sample.


yea ive had good luck with the gashas but gonna be in need of another recon. didnt know i had to get a second job in order to afford one.