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Friday, January 11th 2013, 7:21pm

Advice for ANYONE who owns a guild.

Hello, just wanted to post some "Friendly" advice for ANYONE who has a guild with more than one guild vault page, so you don't have to go through frustration that i have gone through.

Make sure to have the guild leader contact customer support and ask them to verify how many guild vault pages you have.

Why? Simple, a month or two ago, i lost 2 out of the 3 guild pages i had for a guild. Just disappeared When I contacted customer support, they told me they had no records of me ever having more than 1 guild vault page, even though i had over 200 stacks/item in my guild vault. No explanation on how i could of gotten more than 100 into a guild vault without having more than 1 page.

You will be unable to access anything on those other pages, and they will not reimburse you for the items (because technically they are still there - you just cant access them) and they will not move the items somewhere you can access them. You will be required to repurchase the guild vault pages.

So how could I have prevented this from happening? Simply by contacting customer support ahead of time, and requesting that they verify how many guild vault pages i had. Get it in writing through customer support on their end that you actually DO have the correct amount of guild vault pages, so if by some wonderful code that they have written, you loose your guild vault pages, you will have a record that the the vault pages did actually exist ahead of time.

Your guild leader will need to make sure to use the email address when logging into customer support associated with the account the guild leader is on

FYI screen shots or are not proof that you actually had the guild vault pages - according to customer service.

So to reiterate:

Make sure to have the guild leader contact customer support and ask them to verify how many guild vault pages you have.



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Friday, January 11th 2013, 8:53pm

Yeah, customer service, as poor as tis, really do be needin customers callin em up fer all their guild pages ter be verified, an their alts, an their alts alts.....

Me knoweth that yer response tis merely an effort ter head off their bad support, so surely customer service would take notice o this post first? Or do we really haver ta get so down an dirty wit em, GMs?

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:02pm

Jus wantered ter add after seein that Kalvin done hast been busy on the other thread concernin this issue, that iffn this twas jus one person reportin this, it might be a lapse o reason or memory. However seein has how this hast done happened several times, customer service does not seem ter be doin thier job. Somehow they do hast fergotten the "customer" part o their name.

Me personally do know two individuals on Artemis that haver had their pages vanish. One got the page back (but none o items) an the other couldn't even get their page back. I do be countin me bank pages, an hopin that the game no malfunctions on me, cause it do seem like a person be at sea witout a ship iffn this do happen. Sad state.

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:03pm

Quoted from "Lemonater;584252"

Yeah, customer service, as poor as tis, really do be needin customers callin em up fer all their guild pages ter be verified, an their alts, an their alts alts.....

Me knoweth that yer response tis merely an effort ter head off their bad support, so surely customer service would take notice o this post first? Or do we really haver ta get so down an dirty wit em, GMs?

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Good god, this is not pirates101.

Anyways, the OP's post is good avice as this just happened to Zidlef's son's guild. Since support seems to be getting more and more picky about what DOES constitute proof of something (probably due to the numerous code blips and failures that their game has), best to be proactive. We all play this game and we all know that SOMETHING will happen. It's inevitable. Take the OP's advice and stay a step ahead of the bugs and the usually unhelpful support team.

You all remember the chest fiasco right? Where we were told to take screenshots but then those screenshots weren't proof enough and the wonderful support team had an out-of-date database? :) Wonderful times. Stay a step ahead and hopefully the damage done by something like that will be minimal. Or they'll start saying written proof from their support team doesn't count either. I'm banking on that happening.
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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:06pm

Quoted from "tmblake09;584254"

Good god, this is not pirates101.

Anyways, the OP's post is good avice as this just happened to Zidlef's son's guild. Since support seems to be getting more and more picky about what DOES constitute proof of something (probably due to the numerous code blips and failures that their game has), best to be proactive. We all play this game and we all know that SOMETHING will happen. It's inevitable. Take the OP's advice and stay a step ahead of the bugs and the usually unhelpful support team.

You all remember the chest fiasco right? Where we were told to take screenshots but then those screenshots weren't proof enough and the wonderful support team had an out-of-date database? :) Wonderful times. Stay a step ahead and hopefully the damage done by something like that will be minimal. Or they'll start saying written proof from their support team doesn't count either. I'm banking on that happening.


I think the support is going to spit in your food the next time you order :3

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:13pm

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I think the support is going to spit in your food the next time you order :3

LOL at least then they would have actively done something.
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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:13pm

Hey Kalvan you can close my threads on the forums all you want, The fact of the matter support is not responding, is there still people working in that departement?? if they are , they are useless. I bought back the page to get my stuff back, if anyone waits for support from gameforge, you will die of old age. Players on the forums are the best source of information apparently. No response from Support, GM's and CM's are good to close threads and hope we go away and leave our issues be. Great way to do business.

Can we have a Canadian or American publisher buy them out and make this game what is was meant to be please : FUN

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:15pm

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Hey Kalvan you can close my threads on the forums all you want, The fact of the matter support is not responding, is there still people working in that departement?? if they are , they are useless. I bought back the page to get my stuff back, if anyone waits for support from gameforge, you will die of old age. Players on the forums are the best source of information apparently. No response from Support, GM's and CM's are good to close threads and hope we go away and leave our issues be. Great way to do business.

Can we have a Canadian or American publisher buy them out and make this game what is was meant to be please : FUN

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100% agree. Gameforge was the worst thing to happen to RoM. I didn't think it was possible, but they're driving this game into the ground faster than a certain other game (mom upside-down) is losing players.
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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:23pm

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:41pm

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There is my video of that lost bank page, might help others to get them back since we have no answer from Gameforge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CkEppn0bEk&feature=youtu.be

Hope my english is not too bad and understandable ;-)


As I said in my closing message in the other thread, only Support can help with the missing guild bank page issue.

As Friendly has said, it will help considerably if the guild leader submits the ticket. Since your son is the guild leader, he should be the one submitting the ticket and asking that Support reimburse the guild for the expense of having to re-buy the bank page, if that's at all possible. Asking, not demanding.
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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:47pm

Quoted from "Kalvan;584264"

As I said in my closing message in the other thread, only Support can help with the missing guild bank page issue.

As Friendly has said, it will help considerably if the guild leader submits the ticket. Since your son is the guild leader, he should be the one submitting the ticket and asking that Support reimburse the guild for the expense of having to re-buy the bank page, if that's at all possible. Asking, not demanding.


The fact that we even have to ask to be reimbursed as opposed to it being common sense shows how messed up the support team is.
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Friday, January 11th 2013, 9:50pm

Quoted from "Kalvan;584264"

Asking, not demanding.


He does have a right to demand for his stuff, this IS a result of a bug, so he SHOULD get his stuff back :P
Not supporting his approach to it mind you :P (I has betrayded you Zid :3) but he DESERVES his stuff back

Would the devs intentionally put in this bug? No not a chance, but by not fixing what has been done and sending the automated responses to many people have received (from what I see) it is basically the same thing.

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 10:35pm

Quoted from "Kalvan;584264"

As I said in my closing message in the other thread, only Support can help with the missing guild bank page issue.

As Friendly has said, it will help considerably if the guild leader submits the ticket. Since your son is the guild leader, he should be the one submitting the ticket and asking that Support reimburse the guild for the expense of having to re-buy the bank page, if that's at all possible. Asking, not demanding.


The guild leader is my son toon Kyrianknight and support didn'T do anything or he got the usual we don't care message. Yep Dionaea on these cases at least took time to haveit checked and fix. But the new people, if any are not fictionnal are certainly no Dionaea or of any help.

BTW why would he have to ask for anything?? ticket was submitted, they closed it, without doing anything and it'S been pending for 8 days. Do you think that is the way to treat customers??

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 10:39pm

Also Kalvan did you check the video i posted for my son guild?? did you look at it?? and tell me i lied, manipulated anything?? But probably FRAPS is not proof enough of what other players have been complaining about this issue??

Keep on hiding behind a defficient customer service, or none at all. Then you wonder why paying customers get mad at Gameforge and your staff. You would be quite upset too if it happened and get stupid unhelpful answers.

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Friday, January 11th 2013, 11:06pm

Quoted from "Kalvan;584264"

As I said in my closing message in the other thread, only Support can help with the missing guild bank page issue.

As Friendly has said, it will help considerably if the guild leader submits the ticket. Since your son is the guild leader, he should be the one submitting the ticket and asking that Support reimburse the guild for the expense of having to re-buy the bank page, if that's at all possible. Asking, not demanding.


well Kalvan i am one of the people that helped fill that 2nd bank page,and i am appalled by the responses given to everyone over the holidays.
this is how bad it actually is......i had some problems getting logged out of forums the day before xmas,so i requested a pw reset.........nothing happened no emails nothing.......suddenly on jan 4 or so i went to log in game and i could not.i checked my email and whoa and behold my pw had been reset.so it took 2 weeks to reset my pw? I HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO BREAK FORUM RULE 2A HERE ------------->THIS IS B.S.
skeleton crew over the holidays or not 2 weeks to reset my pw is just wrong........now if my toon had been hacked i would have lost everything i have and then probably never got it back.
i have faith that this game can and will be better.i am almost out of patience with support.i tell you what Kalvan put my name up to help with support tickets.i would do this for FREE if it means helping a few people solve issues that are by no means their fault.
and as for asking and not demanding.........good luck with that my friend people are fed up with asking,asking gets nothing accomplished.
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Friday, January 11th 2013, 11:58pm

So many Disturbed people here, and none who should be directly involved with Support on this issue.

Zid, I've already responded to you in a PM.

RoMUnited, there is a thing called "common courtesy". While you may be angry, directing that anger towards someone who is in a position to help you doesn't make them move more quickly or be disposed to be particularly helpful.

Timthum, your post/complaint regarding your password reset is off topic and I won't address it. As I said in the above paragraph, leave your anger at the door when dealing with Support, or anyone else who might be rendering assistance, and you'll have an easier time with things. Besides, screaming on the forums might make you feel better, but it accomplishes nothing else.

I'm not in charge of hiring staff. I'm not in charge of much of anything, for that matter. But if you want to help out, send a PM to Cernunna about becoming a Mentor.
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Saturday, January 12th 2013, 12:24am

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I think the support is going to spit in your food the next time you order :3




They dont already spit in our food? Then what is that pecuiliar taste in your mouth?

The staff is quite likely very busy, understaffed, underpaid, and over worked(and has to deal with trolls like myself). That all considered, the initial response does not always the end of the matter. I, and others, have found that with a little extra "encouragement" the matter will get a little more attention and the outcome will be a little more to the customers satisfaction. Please be nice: would you want to deal with you?
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Saturday, January 12th 2013, 12:54am

Quoted from "Kalvan;584292"

I'm not in charge of hiring staff. I'm not in charge of much of anything, for that matter. But if you want to help out, send a PM to Cernunna about becoming a Mentor.


That reminds me, where the heck is Cernunna or whatever her name is. Haven't seen her posting on anything around here recently.

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Saturday, January 12th 2013, 1:09am

Quoted from "Kalvan;584292"

So many Disturbed people here, and none who should be directly involved with Support on this issue.

Zid, I've already responded to you in a PM.

RoMUnited, there is a thing called "common courtesy". While you may be angry, directing that anger towards someone who is in a position to help you doesn't make them move more quickly or be disposed to be particularly helpful.

Timthum, your post/complaint regarding your password reset is off topic and I won't address it. As I said in the above paragraph, leave your anger at the door when dealing with Support, or anyone else who might be rendering assistance, and you'll have an easier time with things. Besides, screaming on the forums might make you feel better, but it accomplishes nothing else.

I'm not in charge of hiring staff. I'm not in charge of much of anything, for that matter. But if you want to help out, send a PM to Cernunna about becoming a Mentor.


You can delete this post or even ban me from the forums at this point I do not care....The customer support in this game is appalling. I have worked in the service community for almost 20 years and if I were to ever speak to a customer the way I have seen you as a mentor respond I would have been fired instantly. Common courtesy goes both ways as does respect for others.
With that being said you claim you have little to no responsibity (not being in charge ) the why the closing or deleting of threads. Shouldnt that be handled by someone who does have that responsibility. I am not sure exactly what a "mentor" in this game does but the definition of mentor is a wise and trusted counselor or teacher. Not sure about anyone else but there are few Mentors/CM/GM's that I trust to get things done and they ones that have at least shown that they care are no longer part of the support team.
My guess is GF has things backwords..Instead of keeping those who do actually care and do their jobs they keep the ones who do the exact opposite.
So Kalvan as I tell those that I counsel daily (as in I have the degree to do so) If you are going to talk the talk then walk the walk.......

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Saturday, January 12th 2013, 1:25am

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and as for asking and not demanding.........good luck with that my friend people are fed up with asking,asking gets nothing accomplished.


Kalvan people in this game have asked for a very long time and I personally am tired of being handed a box of crayons and being to to shut up and color. My crayons are wore out just like my patience for the support system of this game.

I do not believe the purpose of this post was to discuss his PW issue as I saw it as him giving us an example of how shotty support has gotten for this game. We have bank pages missing, main questlines broken, botters, exploits, hacks, lag and so much more and yet the only person who can respond to any of it admits to "not being in charge of much of anything"

SO GF give us someone who can do something and who actually knows what it means to be a mentor. Closing threads or being rude (in my opinion you were Kalvan) is not what we need to get this resolved