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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:41am

Clear ur inbox Zid! The Kierr is bored and wants to procrastinate on being productive by conversing with humans.

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:41am

i am not a troll *strikes a nixon pose*
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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:45am

Well get in Vent Sweety and join the Disturbia!!!!

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:46am

That sounds a lot like common sense >_> and we don't take kindly to that rubbish all around here

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:48am

this is a normal day on reni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw
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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:52am

Quoted from "choujiaki;587396"

GM CM SUPPORT all that other crap is based in EU now, but if the US servers are based in the states, shouldnt they be able to fix the problem by now....


*IF* they're typical, the servers themselves are housed in a data center with 24/7 support that only supports hardware - actual software maintenance is performed remotely (from anywhere in the world) and includes limited hardware abilities (such as they can reboot the servers, but little else). Onsite support is limited to replacing hardware and power cycling hardlocked servers.

So if the problem is a hardware problem, they have to work with the data center to get that resolved.

And considering that the IPs for the servers terminate within a VaultNetworks data center, I'm going to assume this is how they're operating.

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:53am

Quoted from "timthum;587411"

this is a normal day on reni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw


:D Okay that one was a good one :cool:

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 3:54am

Quoted from "timthum;587411"

this is a normal day on reni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw



LOL i wished RENI actually have a tenth of that insane drama

RENI is more like the pubic service announcement channel where nothing much happens lol

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:01am

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:04am


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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:07am

Quoted from "timthum;587411"

this is a normal day on reni
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=316AzLYfAzw



Girl on bike... not sure if there was anything else....

This situation with server (and no public announcement) is disturbing.... :(

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:10am

Quoted from "Southern;587412"

*IF* they're typical, the servers themselves are housed in a data center with 24/7 support that only supports hardware - actual software maintenance is performed remotely (from anywhere in the world) and includes limited hardware abilities (such as they can reboot the servers, but little else). Onsite support is limited to replacing hardware and power cycling hardlocked servers.

So if the problem is a hardware problem, they have to work with the data center to get that resolved.

And considering that the IPs for the servers terminate within a VaultNetworks data center, I'm going to assume this is how they're operating.


Indeed. Data center can only perform limited recovery, and with only some of the servers being down, indications are it is not a hardware issue. Data centers might be little understaffed on weekends (especially superbowl one), but they are 24/7 and so will repair hardware problems.

Software issues and database integrity are far more likely culprits. You do not want those resolved quickly if the problem is not simple. I've had more than one occasion in my IT career where there was a pressure to do it fast or to have people who are available working on resolving the problem, regardless of their ability and understanding of systems involved. It never ends well. Any time right people can't work on the issue, it causes far more problem than it solves. Heck, I myself have created quite a few problems because I had no clue what I was doing, trying to repair the system I had no business repairing.
-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:15am

yea things were pretty messed up before the servers crashed .... I was logged on to one of my toons but when I opened mail or AH I was getting the AH and mail box for the toon I had just logged off of.

94

Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:18am

China must be hacking RoM now... since, RoM is important

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:18am

Quoted from "vfwiffo;587419"

Indeed. Data center can only perform limited recovery, and with only some of the servers being down, indications are it is not a hardware issue. Data centers might be little understaffed on weekends (especially superbowl one), but they are 24/7 and so will repair hardware problems.

Software issues and database integrity are far more likely culprits. You do not want those resolved quickly if the problem is not simple. I've had more than one occasion in my IT career where there was a pressure to do it fast or to have people who are available working on resolving the problem, regardless of their ability and understanding of systems involved. It never ends well. Any time right people can't work on the issue, it causes far more problem than it solves. Heck, I myself have created quite a few problems because I had no clue what I was doing, trying to repair the system I had no business repairing.


All of that is probably 100% what's going on in this case. However, having someone actually say "Yes this is happening and it may take some time to fix" would be nice.

However, the following link accurately describes what I'm talking about...
http://imgur.com/ug3Yo

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:26am

Quoted from "vfwiffo;587419"

Indeed. Data center can only perform limited recovery, and with only some of the servers being down, indications are it is not a hardware issue. Data centers might be little understaffed on weekends (especially superbowl one), but they are 24/7 and so will repair hardware problems.

Software issues and database integrity are far more likely culprits. You do not want those resolved quickly if the problem is not simple. I've had more than one occasion in my IT career where there was a pressure to do it fast or to have people who are available working on resolving the problem, regardless of their ability and understanding of systems involved. It never ends well. Any time right people can't work on the issue, it causes far more problem than it solves. Heck, I myself have created quite a few problems because I had no clue what I was doing, trying to repair the system I had no business repairing.


Actually, with both Reni AND Osha down, I'm leaning toward a hardware issue. Maybe a router that feeds these 2 worlds, or a common power supply. Since the issue affected identical zones on two different worlds (housing, mail, auction house, guild castles), I don't see how that could be strictly database related -- but without knowing more about their server structure/topology, it's hard to be sure. Do the 2 worlds share a database on a single server? Are Zones housed on multiple physical servers, or a single VM?

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:27am

Quoted from "Choralone42;587423"

All of that is probably 100% what's going on in this case. However, having someone actually say "Yes this is happening and it may take some time to fix" would be nice.

However, the following link accurately describes what I'm talking about...
http://imgur.com/ug3Yo


True. Still, we can't be the only computer company where communication with end users was not usual process, and was discouraged. In a lot of cases, we did not even know who to talk with - we knew the name and address of the site having issues, but not who managed it.

Yes, in this case, a techie can post as a user, sure. And, if such a post is made, we all know what it will be, right? "Yes, there is a problem, we are working on it, no ETA, no information if the problem is repairable".

Quoted from "Southern;587425"

Actually, with both Reni AND Osha down, I'm leaning toward a hardware issue. Maybe a router that feeds these 2 worlds, or a common power supply. Since the issue affected identical zones on two different worlds (housing, mail, auction house, guild castles), I don't see how that could be strictly database related -- but without knowing more about their server structure/topology, it's hard to be sure. Do the 2 worlds share a database on a single server? Are Zones housed on multiple physical servers, or a single VM?


We don't know this, but the delay duration points away from it being strictly hardware issue. Or maybe it is, and the severity of the problem is that hardware needs to be replaced and system rebuilt. If so, data center won't be able to do it. Even restoring from backup would not often do it; a lot of times individual pieces have to be carefully connected, not just a simple image restore.
-- Rustyx --- 92R / 92S / 92M on Reni (Guild KnightShift). Yes, running the new FOTM R/M, cause I am not elf enough to be WD/S.

Oh, and people who have more than 3 classes are clinically insane.


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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:32am

6 hours and no real communication...
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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:33am

lol we will probably all loose our toons because windows has crashed

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Monday, February 4th 2013, 4:34am

Well windows 3.11 always was a bit sketchy

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