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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 2:49am

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Yep you banned me from the facebook page so i can't write comments anymore. Well good job at controlling the information, most of the posts made by people that were bad comments were all removed, lol.

Good luck with that, you should know that freedom of speech is a RIGHT in most countries. But we will see what happens with that. Good luck.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 3:01am

Facebook is considered a private business, not owned or supported by the public. So freedom of speech there, as on most websites anywhere, is at the discretion of the site owner or manager.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 3:59am

Lets be honest, the same thing tends to happen here on the forums most times. Apparently its against the forum rules to say anything negative about gameforge.....and so all that stuff gets removed. Oh well, the truth with find a way to be heard :D
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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 5:13am

My god, I know right I tried to post German Scat porn all over their facebook and the posts were deleted.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 5:34am

I know other game forums where your allowed to actually personally and publicly attack other players/whole guilds with full swearing uncensored.

I miss those forums... so strict here like the main playerbase is 11 or something :(

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 5:45am

Considering the pervasive inanity of most posts I see on ROM FB page, it must've been something really truly outstanding to warrant a ban. Grats. Not an easy achievement to stand out in that crowd.
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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 7:33am

Quoted from "Vasilisa;589817"

Lets be honest, the same thing tends to happen here on the forums most times. Apparently its against the forum rules to say anything negative about gameforge.....and so all that stuff gets removed. Oh well, the truth with find a way to be heard :D


If you think that all the negative stuff said about gameforge gets removed from the forums, then you obviously haven't read the discussion section in the past couple of years. If everything negative said about gameforge were deleted, then there would be 0 threads on this discussion part of the forums.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 9:02am

Could be worse they could ban your forum account, when the comments were never actually posted to the forums and remained private between the sender and recipient.

Seems that players all have the same basic opinion so wont be long till we're all removed from Facebook and the forums.

Oh and Wenwenni you'd be surprised just how much has been removed, when you say over the years your probably not talking about gameforge... Frogster NA and Pacific had a much more tolerant view with such posts and many of those staff got involved in the discussions.
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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 9:19am

Quoted from "DrizzitDoUrden;589831"

Could be worse they could ban your forum account, when the comments were never actually posted to the forums and remained private between the sender and recipient.

Seems that players all have the same basic opinion so wont be long till we're all removed from Facebook and the forums.

Oh and Wenwenni you'd be surprised just how much has been removed, when you say over the years your probably not talking about gameforge... Frogster NA and Pacific had a much more tolerant view with such posts and many of those staff got involved in the discussions.


Think ive been here awhile to make an apt comparison.

FA- let our posts stand. Response wasnt always the best, but we got responses. We could have page after page after page of discussion without censorship.

Gameforge- seems like they instructed their mods to censor any negative viewpoints toward the company, fired the only GMs that cared. Gave us some fake, plastic CM in return. They dont even respond unless its a technical problem...days after the fact.


Didnt like Dio. But atleast she had a presence here. Not like she understood the community or the game and its mechanics. She was hired to be our CM without any previous rom experience.

Swag was a moron, but seemed like he genuinely cared. Might have been his undoing, or he got frustrated/fed up. From what I remember he'd always try for us atleast, always met red-tape.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 10:33am

Quoted from "Ravesden;589835"

Think ive been here awhile to make an apt comparison.

FA- let our posts stand. Response wasnt always the best, but we got responses. We could have page after page after page of discussion without censorship.

Gameforge- seems like they instructed their mods to censor any negative viewpoints toward the company, fired the only GMs that cared. Gave us some fake, plastic CM in return. They dont even respond unless its a technical problem...days after the fact.


Didnt like Dio. But atleast she had a presence here. Not like she understood the community or the game and its mechanics. She was hired to be our CM without any previous rom experience.

Swag was a moron, but seemed like he genuinely cared. Might have been his undoing, or he got frustrated/fed up. From what I remember he'd always try for us atleast, always met red-tape.

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Idk, I liked Swag regardless if he was right/wrong lieing to us at least it seemed like he cared, since heh himself played the game, as yes i agree he prolly got fed up.

I agree with Drizzt and Raves though. [note of moderation: edited]

Fa definatley gave us more opinion, except that wolf guy or w/e who got banned from the forums like 5 times.
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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 11:26am

Quoted from "DrizzitDoUrden;589831"

Oh and Wenwenni you'd be surprised just how much has been removed, when you say over the years your probably not talking about gameforge... Frogster NA and Pacific had a much more tolerant view with such posts and many of those staff got involved in the discussions.


Well yeah, I mean I know that a lot of posts are removed, but they're not removed simply because they have a negative view towards gameforge, they're removed because they break some forum rule. We have threads on here where more than half the posts are just something along the lines of "gameforge sucks. this is the worst managed game ever. Who works at Gameforge, 10 year olds?" and none of those posts are ever deleted. Was FA more lenient on deleting posts, yeah. But I think that was just because they were more lenient on policing the forum rules and gameforge isn't.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 11:44am

Greetings everyone.

As with every medium, no matter if forums, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or the good old paper it's all about netiquette. It's alright to be upset, especially if something goes wrong. There's barely anyone out there who hasn't ranted before. Still remember that if you would rant about something right in front of a shop owner he/she would likely ask you to leave and might go as far as ban you, no matter if you ranted about something correctly.

It's all about how one does it. "Yelling" makes you lose evey argument automatically. The same goes for needless insults, no matter how minor they might be in your oppinion. There's no exception for that.
The legacy of "the customer is always king" or "always right" ends exactly there where insults are hurled around.

So wherever this happens, we try to maintain a mature atmosphere by removing these posts (usually just hidden, we can still see them ;) ) without restricting the actual conversation. Now keeping the conversation and/or discussion open also depends.
Take a thread that started about one topic and was hjiacked by others, pushing it far off the actual topic. We belief in turning this back to where it belongs but in rare cases it's necessary to put a bucket of sand over the burning trolls. ;)

Having said that, thread...naw, not closed. ;) Just keep it civilized, ok?

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 3:05pm

Well you wanna talk about MATURE Grey Eminence, ok, What about your customer support, non-existant. Gerfalke gives you the same first answer to every single ticket you send, so he is probably a bot. You have known issue in the game and you do nothing except giving dumbarse pre maid answer on support.

I've lost 3 speed mounts pots 30%/30 days within 2 weeks, funny i can't unclick it to remove it but if i have too many buffs it goes away. Same stupid unhelpful answer from Gerfalke : we cannot reproduce the error that occured so live with it. I paid real money and bough 6 mount packages to get them and you guys simply don'T give a rat's arse about us anymore.

You had your maintenance restructuring thing, well my son lost his second guild bank page from his guild once again. The first time from december 20th still not settled and took 2 months to get the facepalm from you guys.

You think that hiding behind pre-maid answer and giving us the shaft will make things better? really?

I tried to be civilized, went through 4 levels of your stupid complain on support and got all the same answers by all of them. I'm sorry you are probably the only person left on US side and EU simply don't care about US customers. So no worries i won't be here for long anymore since my new game will be out soon. Keep on stealing stuff from customers and use EULA or lawyered up answers to say it is not your fault, it's the Runewaker issue and will get back to you, lol.

Broken quest every new content, broken recipe since day one and still not fixed, disappearing items. Funny how Frogster, when i had issues, explained it and got the items sent to me in the mail within 24 hours and issue resolved. You guys should stop being afraid to give stuff back to customers who spend real money to buy diamonds, not ingame gold or from gold spammers. I never once tried to get an item that never truly was lost or disappeared from my toon , NEVER. But you probably are used to work with lying, backstabbing morons. Keep your stuff i paid for it, just like you might sell it on the corner of a street or back alley to get real money, it's a freaking virtual item that we paid for and doesn't cost you anything to replace it. But oops we are probably all liars, thieves and scammers on US servers.

I couldn't care less for you guys to stay on EU all the time because you are not doing anything to help this community. Let Kalvan keep us in check, you EU guys choose not to give a crap about us anymore so stay over seas and let the game die. That was the plan all along anyways, buy them out, let it die out and close it for your new game with the big publisher.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 3:08pm

BTW the stupid questions you ask on Facebbok like :
What was your best ROM moments : typical answer: When i unistalled it
What do you think about this drawing of this dragon : my 12 year old can draw better than that
What do you think about the new wedding hall for valentine : who cares fix the damn game

Funny how you guys do not listen to any of us, keep removing post here and Facebook, you guys are killing the game.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 3:35pm

Quoted from "Grey Eminence;589843"

Greetings everyone.

As with every medium, no matter if forums, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube or the good old paper it's all about netiquette. It's alright to be upset, especially if something goes wrong. There's barely anyone out there who hasn't ranted before. Still remember that if you would rant about something right in front of a shop owner he/she would likely ask you to leave and might go as far as ban you, no matter if you ranted about something correctly.

It's all about how one does it. "Yelling" makes you lose evey argument automatically. The same goes for needless insults, no matter how minor they might be in your oppinion. There's no exception for that.
The legacy of "the customer is always king" or "always right" ends exactly there where insults are hurled around.

So wherever this happens, we try to maintain a mature atmosphere by removing these posts (usually just hidden, we can still see them ;) ) without restricting the actual conversation. Now keeping the conversation and/or discussion open also depends.
Take a thread that started about one topic and was hjiacked by others, pushing it far off the actual topic. We belief in turning this back to where it belongs but in rare cases it's necessary to put a bucket of sand over the burning trolls. ;)

Having said that, thread...naw, not closed. ;) Just keep it civilized, ok?

Thank you.


This put GF in dictatorship, and guess how people feel when under dictatorship rules and when someone tries to hide every objection. (ask Mr. Assad in Syria or all fallen dictatorships in Arab worlds in last 2 years)

Essentially, same thing is happening here, in game. Instead of working on fixing all reported problems, more energy is spent to 'look' good. Web page becomes unusable, as information on it is misleading and inacurate, essentially leading to embezzlement (by laying customers for financial gain) which is punishable offense here in states.

Please stop editing our posts and focus on fixing the game, item shop and marketing to attract new customers, but not by lying to them how game is great, but telling that there are problems but SOMEONE IS WORKING on them. (I hope)

I don't even use FB, but things like this just make GF look unprofessional and unworthy of investment...

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 3:41pm

OMG ATAR you are my HERO!! could not have said it better except if i would have written it in french ;-(. English still my second language. You made a perfect post there just telling it like it is and really i'm like WOW.

If i wouldn't be so mad at them for treating US servers like lying, stealing, backstabbing second grade countries i would have wrote something like you did.

ATAR FOR GM position NOW!!!!!! give us someone that cares and is litterate in his posts, not meant for Greay btw, just glad you took time to come to US forums to write something that actually said something , ty for that Grey.

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 4:01pm

Can we trigger Godwin Law already and get it over with?
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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 5:21pm

If zidlef was the one i seen in seige the other day from Disturbed, by all means ban his account his p/s is annoying :P but I completley understand his frustration. If someone loses an item and paid REAL money for it, you know as well as anyone the items can be made as to where they have before, (items gears lost in mail/acidently deleted).

Is it that ahrd to do? Not like GF is losing any money out of it you guys allready cut your loses with the game it seems, getting cheaper and cheaper and yet here we are, still, for some reason. Hoping the game gets better. But with management like this, among with your other game, I can understand why you guys simply dont care anymore.

DO us a favor and sell the game or at least have someone sponser it who really cares.

and btw zidlef, your son cannot draw a better dragon ;) I mean it was pretty good and artistic until you got to the face where it seems the person effed up.

Fix things in the game or at least work harder to get them done.
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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 5:30pm

I really wanted to address the new blue/green name until I saw this unremarkable stupid comment by Zidlef..

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This put GF in dictatorship, and guess how people feel when under dictatorship rules and when someone tries to hide every objection. (ask Mr. Assad in Syria or all fallen dictatorships in Arab worlds in last 2 years)


I'll go ahead and ask Assad how he feels about it and by it I mean ninja posts being edited by forum mods, I'm sure he will give a flying _____ . Amazing analogy. :/

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Friday, February 22nd 2013, 5:35pm

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I really wanted to address the new blue/green name until I saw this unremarkable stupid comment by Zidlef..



I'll go ahead and ask Assad how he feels about it and by it I mean ninja posts being edited by forum mods, I'm sure he will give a flying _____ . Amazing analogy. :/


So called stupid post was not written by Zid, but me. I am sorry I could not draw easier picture for you to get meaning of it... sorry I failed.