Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "Nenysvor;593005"

Hello

Let me answer in translation the answer of Laghmara from German forum. We have there a lot of feedback too, including especially the suggestion of other amount of jewels in the offer. We have decided not to change the actual promotion, because of the different time zones. You know, there are hours between Australia and Europe, and between America too. That means: as the question appeared, the promotion was in full progress for at least one of our communities.
However we are glad to have this feedback, so we could forward it for further promotions, to have more peoples get happy with something they want.

The saddest part is that it says the promotion was already in the process of being presented to us, BEFORE...remember the word here..B E F O R E, it even went to the cash shop, the sales team that seemingly has no brain should of reworked them. In fact the notion of 32$ package with jewels that aren't even 100% is disgusting.

edit: Guess they are 100%...either way...stupid package is stupid.

I'd like to buy the entire team drinks, get them all drunk...and drop them off in a bad part of the city.

Also, please stop posting with such a condescending tone...implying we don't know there is different time zones between australia, NA and Europe.

It gets more and more incredible every time I visit these forums, physically it makes my stomach hurt, mentally it's straining.

Good times.

$32.00 for a small pack of plusing jewels like that? ..... Is gameforge retarded? ... ever since these erou idiots took over the games gotten worse and worse of a cash grab with zero suport ... you guys suck

Quoted from "linkit;593030"

$32.00 for a small pack of plusing jewels like that? ..... Is gameforge retarded? ... ever since these erou idiots took over the games gotten worse and worse of a cash grab with zero suport ... you guys suck

But your saving 33%!! How can this not be a good deal?!?!?

They have had the same feedback on offer after offer, but it has never changed the next offer. It is always just as bad. Every offer has had some trash added to it to make it seem like you are getting something extra. When the feedback is always ignored and still they add items that should have been deleted from the cash shop 3 or 4 upgrades ago when the new levels made them useless, to try to trick you into believing you are getting something extra. They are just insulting the people who are giving them the feedback and trying to help.

When I look at an offer I look to see if there is anything in the offer I don't need. If there is now I will not bother to even evaluate the rest of the offer. I have pages and pages in the bank of cash shop items that are useless but came in their special offers and there is nothing i can do with them I just leave them in there to remind me not to waste money on the special offers. If they put trash in the offer it is to hide the fact that it is far overpriced and the more trash they put in the more it is overpriced.

I just can't see how the hate against packages can be emphasized any more than it already it. 3 month of not wanting packages feedback being "forwarded", and what do we get for Frogster's birthday sale? Packages.

I don't think this sale needs to be removed, but if we can get a seperate sale for perfect jewels at a reasonable price in the near future (and the 300 rubies for 1 perfect jewel junk sale is not reasonable), would make us happy.

I thought aprils fools wasnt for another 16 days?

Gameforge will have to cover the booze expense on St. Patrick's Day so they have to make money!!!

This sale is absolutely absurd. Yes, Jewels are always needed and the +16 ones are Diamonds only on sale occasions. This is the wrong way of presenting the packages to us. The packages are too expensive, even with a Double Diamonds sale (even though we don't have one).

The amount of Diamonds it costs to upgrade in general is enough to make any player's head spin. This package presents UNEVEN amounts of Jewels. Having 5 jewels is a good amount, I'd imagine players can do atleast +1 or +2 without spending a dime in game. The fact that there are 5 of each is where the problem arises.

The next segment is assuming that none of the jewels "Fail" and all equips/weapons are +1 already.

You use the 5 jewels on your weapon to get it to +6, assuming you are a 1 weapon class, which is fine.
You use the 5 jewels on a piece of gear to get it to +6, this leaves the rest of your gear plain, which is OK but far from perfect.
You use the 5 jewels on an accessory, this leaves the rest of your accessories plain, which is also OK but far again from perfect.

After that is where the problems happen.
If you go for the +12 jewels, you only get 5 of them. 6 + 5 = 11, which means you won't be able to even get to +12 for the final package to be worth anything.
Here are the possible situations we can incur to solve this issue:
1. Hope you have a left over +12 jewel.
2. Spend 89(Weapons) or 69(Armor and Accessories) diamonds to buy the necessary Jewel from the normal cash shop.
3. Ask around to see if a friend has a left over.

Now that we've somehow made it to the +12 on each of the weapon, armor, and accessory:
You use the +16 jewels, which you have 5 from the package. You end up with 1 left over, which is cool for later when the level cap actually makes it to 80 or you decide to upgrade.

So now for the final outcome of the package on the jewels. You ended up spending an extra 227 Diamonds (89 + 69 + 69) to get your 3 items up to +16, with a leftover +16 jewel of each kind of equip.

So in total, we end up spending 227 Diamonds + 1997 Diamonds (1 of each sale package) = 2224 Diamonds. (Not sure what the Diamonds to USD conversion is)
Purified Packages are nice (arguably better than the jewels for those of us without refined equips) and 15 Purified Fusion Stones is enough to stat up 3 pieces of equipment with 3 Purified Fusion Stones from the token shop. This process can be done in a matter of months as well without spending cash.

The 100k Talent Point Orbs are utterly worthless in the end. By the time you get to 75, you're pushing a total of over 80mill Talent Points. 300k Talent Points is quite literally a waste of mention.

This is why everyone is upset. This package is NOT ALL INCLUSIVE for statting and refining 3 equips. Please, do the math next time before you tell us to calm down, that nothing can be done, and that everything will be ok in the future. Understand where we come from as paying users, as I am sure many of the CM, GM, FM team members are.

Hate to say it, but it's not entirely gameforge's fault these packages keep showing up. Horrible as they are, people are still buying them. If people are buying them then they are going to keep selling them this way. If we want the packages to stop we have to vote with our wallets - it's the only language that seems to translate well.

Quoted from "Rossbot;593041"

The next segment is assuming that none of the jewels "Fail" and all equips/weapons are +1 already.

You use the 5 jewels on your weapon to get it to +6, assuming you are a 1 weapon class, which is fine.
You use the 5 jewels on a piece of gear to get it to +6, this leaves the rest of your gear plain, which is OK but far from perfect.
You use the 5 jewels on an accessory, this leaves the rest of your accessories plain, which is also OK but far again from perfect.

Ross, keep in mind for your calculations that the +7-12 jewels are guaranteed 100% from +6 to +7, and the next set up are guaranteed 100% from +12 to +13.. So buying one pack of the regular jewels and upgrading 5 different pieces of equipment from +6 to +7 or +12 to +13 will throw your numbers off a bit.

Also, one thing I noticed is that because there are 5 jewels of each type in the packs (Weapon, Armor, Jewelry), but there are *8* armor slots (9 with Shield).. So in order to get enough +12 or +16 jewels to even cover the (+11 to +12) or (+15 to +16) upgrades, you would have to buy *2* of each package.. Which would give you *10* weapon jewels. When's the last time you needed 10 perfects for a single weapon (or 2 in the case of dual-wield or bow/xbow)?

Either way you go, most players that buys these packages are probably going to wind up with a lot of extra gems that they don't need, can't use, and can't trade.

You have short memories.

I remember a very similar sale when TBay was the top zone. I specifially remember, because I kept having to interrupt my TBay EoJ event farming, and run to the mailbox everytime someone world shouted "WTS dia".

Quoted from "Southern;593061"

Ross, keep in mind for your calculations that the +7-12 jewels are guaranteed 100% from +6 to +7, and the next set up are guaranteed 100% from +12 to +13.. So buying one pack of the regular jewels and upgrading 5 different pieces of equipment from +6 to +7 or +12 to +13 will throw your numbers off a bit.

Also, one thing I noticed is that because there are 5 jewels of each type in the packs (Weapon, Armor, Jewelry), but there are *8* armor slots (9 with Shield).. So in order to get enough +12 or +16 jewels to even cover the (+11 to +12) or (+15 to +16) upgrades, you would have to buy *2* of each package.. Which would give you *10* weapon jewels. When's the last time you needed 10 perfects for a single weapon (or 2 in the case of dual-wield or bow/xbow)?

Either way you go, most players that buys these packages are probably going to wind up with a lot of extra gems that they don't need, can't use, and can't trade.

I thought all the jewels in the sale were perfect anyway? Why would anyone use perfect jewels for +2 +3 +4 etc, that makes no sense.

Ross' calcs are based on using perfect jewels for each plussing from what it looks like, and that throws off his calcs by A LOT, no one in their right mind would use only perfects for plussing.

But yeah, having 5 perfect weapon jewels in each package is a bit silly (possibly only useful for like a r/s or something)

Quoted from "Quaffy2;593094"

I thought all the jewels in the sale were perfect anyway? Why would anyone use perfect jewels for +2 +3 +4 etc, that makes no sense.

Ross' calcs are based on using perfect jewels for each plussing from what it looks like, and that throws off his calcs by A LOT, no one in their right mind would use only perfects for plussing.

Aye I know, I'd never do that either, but perhaps there are some people that would. *Shrug*.. I've used Perfects for +5 and +6 before (used 40 gems once and the item was STILL only +4, I finally said heck with it and got 2 perfects), but I seem to have better luck with the 7-12s.

But aye, because you'll have to buy multiple packs just to cover the armor slots, you'll wind up with 10 (or more) of both the weapon AND jewelry gems, and that's just a damn waste. If they weren't bound I might think about it, because I could sell the extra, but for some reason they like to bind those things.

You can gift new ones (through the IS), but can't gift existing ones you've already bought. Stupid.

Everyone should just chill out and watch some anime

Quoted from "Kuroyukihime;593157"

Everyone should just chill out and watch some anime

Says the person with 575k hp, bit of a different perspective from there.

Blame it on rich end-gamers who need something to spend money on, there is that thing called CAP limit on gold...

I really doubt anyone is getting those gems. It is just plain rip-off, just like every single sale since Forgster North America.

No wonder NA Frog was able to make more money... if not great in support (still was better then this thing today) they at least had descent sales.

And forgot to say - THANK YOU GF, made me keep all my DIAS! Thank you again!

ps. I love gashas to, they make me keep all my dias as well, as long as they are not bugged....

Quoted from "Stickingit;593158"

Says the person with 575k hp, bit of a different perspective from there.

Isn't this thread about sales and not sw? lol

they're a gold max limit?

999,999,999 then you go to next toon, and then next and then next and then next XD

Quoted from "FarmerTom;593690"

999,999,999 then you go to next toon, and then next and then next and then next XD

phew lol thought it was on account thingy