Runes of Magic US / AU

Quoted from "ruisen2000;597105"

Just wondering, does Runewaker share in a % of the profits that Frogster makes? If that is true, your arguement might make sense when only applied to classes.

But then again, where does the big mountain of fail go in this, SW being in beta for years, or any of the other broken thigns like Syswip_544564 or the mount animation failures in Merhdin fit? Those certainly does not make them any profit, and are most likely due to incompetence on either RW or GF's part. Game content has not been this poorly designed since I started this game, with exception of LoS.

I think it is a %, like refugee said.

SW for years? the more people that pay for trying to be "big" in siege more money. So any glitch, etc that can get people to spend money profits them. Plus then by saying "it is beta" prevents them from HAVING to fix anything. Put siege in and give people a competitive arena... that is what drives most of us. People will spend more cause you dont just have to be able to run content, but to smash others.... Beta.. means hey any problem..... "it is in beta", aka we dont have to spend a dime to fix it.

Fail mtn? well they are also incompetant.... dont get me wrong they messs stuff up. That doesnt mean everything is a mess up... some of it is by design.

As a business model it works, cause it is a game people like and it has Great ideas, then it is how much money can BOTH GF and RW get outta it. RW is making DP, GF/Frogster made TERA.. I would bet a whole bunch mosta that developement came from this game and what they can squeeze outta the player base.

GF bought this game cause it was making lots of money... THerefore they wanna keep it making it a lotta money, but they dont care how long it goes on for. Cause they hope another game will take the ball to make the money.

I think Focus cost on IB would work now, i agree with it. Now if you want it changed it is understanding how to get them to believe it is worth changing it and get them to do it. Unless you would rather it just fail and IB stays the same.. Course if you all dont think i am actually helping than fine.

If you're going to post in this thread, kindly stay on topic. If you want to discuss other classes, please go to the appropriate class forums and discuss them there.

Kthxbai.

adding focus on iceblade is a good idea in my opinion.. it limits the amount of iceblade you can spam and it doesn't kill the p/s class

This bit of extended downtime would be the perfect time to make a minor change to P/S IB. Hint hint!!!

I'm still on the fence about re-rolling my alt from P/M/S to P/M/K due to the whole IB business, but I'm trying to be patient to see if anything else is going to be changed.

Can anyone from GF/RW give us some sort of "official" word on IF anything is going to be done to the IB nerf?!?!?

Quoted from "zidlef;601052"

Oh i have a suggestion, you could put rogues immuned to iceblade all the time so they wouldn't QQ about it loll. Then we might have a chance of a change, because we all know all the QQ about iceblade was for PVP and siege war. So give us back our skill please, tyvm. ;-)

I just realized that you were the one who started this thread asking for P/S to be nerfed...

leave ice blades as is and make rising tide an instant with a 1 sec cooldown.
hide cool down of 5 seconds.(hide is primarily a pvp skill.)

Here's the only "fix" they should get. Give them back their Spam-happy iceblade for PVE, questing is hard enough with priests.

They aren't gonna threaten to be top dps in instances by a long shot anyway so if they wanna do hard-mode runs they are gonna have to play the class as a healer or roll a mage.

PVP- Leave the 3-second cooldown for pvp only, either learn how to play without spamming or learn how to heal.

Anyone who cries about a change like that only wants to play p/s so they can kill in siege without having any real skill. Priest/scouts before the fix were the easiest class to pwn with by far. You could literally just tab target and spam 1 key and get 100 kills in siege with your little immune. Thus why so many people who failed at other classes *cough* rolled them once they saw how easy they were.

I know priest scouts who are still doing great in siege even with the skill having a cooldown, get on their level or: 1. Be a healer, 2. Roll a mage with your mage gear.

Quoted from "zidlef;601094"

Well just put a 10 sec cooldown, shared on all hide skills and see how rogues would QQ. Little rogues doesn't like to have other class out DPS them bouhouhou!!! Have we seen hide useful in PvE ever??, so just remove the skill all together, since it is only useful in PVP and nowhere else.

How many guilds have you been in?? 25, 30?? no loyalties, no honor, no class. And still afraid of little P/S loll

this isn't about rogues

I just knooww that you don't think that having rogues immune to iceblade wouldn't be a good fix If you wanna put forth ideas and are serious about it come up with something that would be satisfactory to everyone or at least tolerable

Quoted from "zidlef;601094"

Well just put a 10 sec cooldown, shared on all hide skills ... Have we seen hide useful in PvE ever??, so just remove the skill all together, since it is only useful in PVP and nowhere else.

Actually, using RoM logic, this makes sense. o.O This is actually a valid argument for how to nerf hide at this point.

Quoted from "RoMunited;601095"

this isn't about rogues

I just knooww that you don't think that having rogues immune to iceblade wouldn't be a good fix If you wanna put forth ideas and are serious about it come up with something that would be satisfactory to everyone or at least tolerable

ummmmm there is serenstum any that got pwned by a p/s needs to learn timing and serenstum.
and here is the thing ice blade is a pve and pvp skill but it got nerfed into the ground. hide on the other hand is a pvp primary skill that allows people with no skill to create a macro to attack then go into hide immediately.rogues hit very hard 1 shot to all average players. ice blade didnt 1 shot unless they opponent had low hp.
3 second cd on ib fine make it hit harder.look at any skill with a 3 sec cd it does more damage than spammable skills in most cases.
Mr. Romunited you are off topic more than Zid.........
the best idea i have heard was a focus cost ,at least then the class wouldnt be nearly as broken.bottom line is people were butthurt because priests could kill them.
NERFING ANY CLASS ON A PVE SKILL BECAUSE OF PVP IS WRONG PERIOD.


not to mention that its perfectly fine to get 1 shot by any dps but its different when a priest does it.........give me a break.
the priest class has very few attacks to begin with this is why they have an immune.to make up for lack of skills that are viable to kill in pve or pvp.
many nights in siege i had less than 25 kills and this was geared as a mage.
now i am lucky to get 10,i cant even defend myself.
say what you will but i played without diyce and i used the number keys to use holy aura ,throat attack ,ice blade and to move.
i was not a 1 button masher but hey we will see when i get my wl to lvl cap i will get way more kills than i ever did as a p/s.
i have never gone up against a guild full of p/s but i have faced guilds with 90% r/s

Quoted from "timthum;601107"

ummmmm there is serenstum any that got pwned by a p/s needs to learn timing and serenstum.
and here is the thing ice blade is a pve and pvp skill but it got nerfed into the ground. hide on the other hand is a pvp primary skill that allows people with no skill to create a macro to attack then go into hide immediately.rogues hit very hard 1 shot to all average players. ice blade didnt 1 shot unless they opponent had low hp.
3 second cd on ib fine make it hit harder.look at any skill with a 3 sec cd it does more damage than spammable skills in most cases.
Mr. Romunited you are off topic more than Zid.........
the best idea i have heard was a focus cost ,at least then the class wouldnt be nearly as broken.bottom line is people were butthurt because priests could kill them.
NERFING ANY CLASS ON A PVE SKILL BECAUSE OF PVP IS WRONG PERIOD.

The immune thing I was talking about is something Zid said in a previous post. Illusion + old P/s means they wouldn't have the oppo to do so anyway (assuming said rogue/other class isn't using invis)

I still dunno how you are relating the nerf and how it can be "fixed" to rogues . You're making a complaint about hide which is a skill of another class that doesn't really have anything to do with iceblade unless you are trying to somehow justify that iceblade shouldn't of been nerfed because hide hasn't been.

Responding to what I think is offtopic is an effort to make things on topic if you guys really want a fix and for people to sympathize with you, you should be talking more about your actual skill (I know that you and several others have) instead of another one...otherwise you alienate part of the community that you guys are saying the gms that you are appealing to are a part of (rogues) seriously or not.

But anyway, you can't get a fix by calling for a nerf on another class. If you want that go to the thread that talks about that, and if they want to talk about how you're "just whining about iceblade" just tell them to come here and talk about it. You guys calling out that hide and other skills should be nerfed while trying to find a way to agree on a skill is why people are "butthurt because priests could kill them." (even though I bet there are a couple people who actually feel this way )

A simpler way to put this is that you can't expect to make peace with your enemy if you are busy aiming a gun at them

Community made a stand and got the mana cost sheet to go away, same thing can happen here..but not with that attitude

Edit to your Edit:
There were some 1 button pushers ya know
One-shottin is fine, but doing that from 200 range (or w/e it was) o.0 is that really balanced?
Me agrees with the pve part though to iceblade

Quoted from "zidlef;601094"

Well just put a 10 sec cooldown, shared on all hide skills and see how rogues would QQ. Little rogues doesn't like to have other class out DPS them bouhouhou!!! Have we seen hide useful in PvE ever??, so just remove the skill all together, since it is only useful in PVP and nowhere else.

How many guilds have you been in?? 25, 30?? no loyalties, no honor, no class. And still afraid of little P/S loll

Well as to the personal attack about loyalties.. well lemme see.. I've been playing since beta and I spent about 2 years of that in LD, a group of people I still play with on multiple games as well as rom. My main account has been in probably 7 guilds over the whole time I've played RoM. The only time I ever leave a guild is due to a personal disagreement with one of the members and I choose to leave so they don't have to or because of activity issues. Although if you paid any attention I always go where my friends are, though I have quite a few endgame friends so there are always places for me to go.

As far as the comment on rogues, a 10 second cooldown on all hide skills.. well 2 of them already have cooldowns longer than 10 seconds... and Hide at least involves some thought as to how to use it, for instance you cant use it in the middle of combat without burning vanish in the process. If you are gonna come out of hide, it damn well better be worth it because as a rogue (unless you have siege gear) you are squishy and anyone who even remotely knows how to play will kill you if they get a shot at you.

Unfortunately zid you've never been good enough to kill rogues without a spam class with an immune. And since this will probably be deleted, please delete zid's personal attack on me as well.

I've never been afraid of P/S. They are fairly easy to kill, lead with throat attack and 1 shot with low blow, bye. The only thing I have against them are players like you that rolled them to be a 1 button spammer and then have the stones to talk about other people having no skill. Take a look in the mirror.

P.S> Hide usefull in pve.. have you run Bedim normal? Probably not because you just talk instead of run instances, but it comes in handy there, you can run past the tough mobs to the first boss with it.

Tbh, the only change I could see being made to Hide without breaking it is just an inadvertent one - fix the issue where you don't enter combat if you oneshot someone. Make them enter combat just like anyone else, wearing off a few seconds after combat ends, like it usually does. No more popping in and out of hide in a split second while oneshotting.

I could see RW screwing that up pretty easily though, so a very short CD might be better.

Asking for Hide to be nerfed like crazy or removing it altogether just because P/S got nerfed is pretty vindictive. We don't need more class nerfs - certainly not for PvP in a PvE-centric game.

Quoted from "Gutterboy;601110"

Well as to the personal attack about loyalties.. well lemme see.. I've been playing since beta and I spent about 2 years of that in LD, a group of people I still play with on multiple games as well as rom. My main account has been in probably 7 guilds over the whole time I've played RoM. The only time I ever leave a guild is due to a personal disagreement with one of the members and I choose to leave so they don't have to or because of activity issues. Although if you paid any attention I always go where my friends are, though I have quite a few endgame friends so there are always places for me to go.

As far as the comment on rogues, a 10 second cooldown on all hide skills.. well 2 of them already have cooldowns longer than 10 seconds... and Hide at least involves some thought as to how to use it, for instance you cant use it in the middle of combat without burning vanish in the process. If you are gonna come out of hide, it damn well better be worth it because as a rogue (unless you have siege gear) you are squishy and anyone who even remotely knows how to play will kill you if they get a shot at you.

Unfortunately zid you've never been good enough to kill rogues without a spam class with an immune. And since this will probably be deleted, please delete zid's personal attack on me as well.

I've never been afraid of P/S. They are fairly easy to kill, lead with throat attack and 1 shot with low blow, bye. The only thing I have against them are players like you that rolled them to be a 1 button spammer and then have the stones to talk about other people having no skill. Take a look in the mirror.

P.S> Hide usefull in pve.. have you run Bedim normal? Probably not because you just talk instead of run instances, but it comes in handy there, you can run past the tough mobs to the first boss with it.

zid's point was there are some rogues that have hide macro'd on to all their skills, so that they can 1 shot people without even coming out of hide....

if you hit hide right after you attack, you can 1 shot then hide before you even enter combat...thus effectively being perma-hid....

All you see is what you want to see. You make these huge deals about you helping everyone in public, so I'll drop some knowledge on you. Many people help others as much as you do and don't go parading it around every chance they get. If you are helping people so that people will like you, well it's kinda working. All the people that don't know better do like you so at least you have that. Unfortunately the number of people that are sick of you crying about every little thing that pops up is growing. (lol the king of QQ talking about me crying... ironic)

Quoted from "zidlef;601114"

Rune, when you actually play the game on US side and do your quest instead of trying to act like a GM. If you want the job, apply for it and let us see some real changes. You know a lot about the game but do not assume that i will bow down to you. I have my vues on the classes i play and have fun with it.

I've been banned from the forums for speaking out and standing up for myself, i don'T care that is who i am.

TYVM

>> Me acting like a Gm is all you have to say? I see this as an issue (what I was talking about in my last post), trying to help you guys by expressing my view. I've got no problem with you expressing your views. I'm just telling you that there might be a more efficient way to get what you want from the posting of this thread. If you don't see it that way, fine.

I'm not trying to make you bow down to me, I'm just telling you my idea. Its a forum, thats one of the purposes of it.

I dunno what you mean by "actually doing my quests"...thats a different issue, and if you actually care about it enough to tell me to do it (I dunno exactly what you meant since I don't think you completed your sentence so I'm just gonna assume that, tell me if I'm wrong) then send me a pm