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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 3:12am

rofl @ what this thread has turned into
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 3:17am

One-shottin is fine, but doing that from 200 range (or w/e it was) o.0 is that really balanced?
Me agrees with the pve part though to iceblade
well what about magma blade ,most scout attacks.......they are ranged attacks
there is multiple attacks that 1 shot from that range.my point is if they nerfed iceblade in all reality hide should have a cool down i dont mind gettin 1 shot but the problem is that many rogues geared lesser than me can do exactly what all the QQ about ice blade was.1 toon popping out of hide 1 shot hide 1 shot hide and so on.it is essentially the same thing as ice blade except that you can not target a rogue while in hide and i have stated many times the reasons this nerf on p/s was too much.
i have even been constructive with ideas on how to change the nerf NOT REVERSE IT ENTIRELY.fact is there is simple macros to attack and hide with no gcd on it so basically even if i do target a rogue before i can cast an instant he/she is back in hide thus dropping target on me.
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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 3:22am

It's all good guys we cleared it up in whispers, we are back to being the best of friends :D No need for more drama.

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 3:24am

Quoted from "timthum;601119"

One-shottin is fine, but doing that from 200 range (or w/e it was) o.0 is that really balanced?
Me agrees with the pve part though to iceblade
well what about magma blade ,most scout attacks.......they are ranged attacks
there is multiple attacks that 1 shot from that range.my point is if they nerfed iceblade in all reality hide should have a cool down i

I've got some of the same views toward hide as you do :D, but I explained why I'm not talkin about them in my posts here

Iceblade is spammable (at least close to it), even though this advantage can be negated due to not even being able to target the enemy if its a rogue or speed buffs/immune. Though to other classes going up against a p/s can be hard and the advantage Iceblade was given to defend against other classes may seem op. This is more of a failure in the pvp system imo than anything :P

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Theres probably no going back (to old iceblade) so Zid, I was just reccomending a way to get your points across better with the least amount of hostility from each side, though if you think your way will work (I don't know everything :P its possible though, I'm a little doubtful is all) by all means go for it

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 5:22am

[COLOR=white !important]Iceblade is spammable (at least close to it),


but other classes have attack skills other than just 1 instant.i have gone thru this many times the bottom line is either change the nerf to ib or give priests other attacks that could be used in a rotation. and many other classes have spammable skills like rogues for instance but they also have more than 4 attacks. roll a p/s and count the damn attacks and then look at how they scale (horribly). iss are crap for priests too. now p/s dont stand a chance against any one unless they have 200k hp and then they are the squishiest on the battle field.
it is plain to see that in a game that allows macros and diyce its all 1 button spams.
this game is like an iphone .........theres a macro for that(theres an app for that)
the whole nerf is because some players were butt hurt that someone figured out that a p/s in full mage gear can hit hard.
sound like any other class combos out there? how about w/m its the same damn thing except well they arent supposed to heal.

if dps hits you to damn hard stack p def
IF MAGIC HITS TO DAMN HARD STACK M DEF.
learn to play your class combo and play it but in my case i cant even play pve well. try questing in merdin tundra with a god damned gimped toon that you spent 100s of dollars on gearing with 2 sets of gear .......count the pieces for a p/s its 17 pieces total so i spent twice as much as other classes to do some damage.THAT DAMAGE ISNT THERE UNLESS YOU HAVE THE GEAR AND STATS.
i used to spend money and give things from the item shop away, now i wont spend a %^#$^#$ penny.
way too much b.s. in the pvp system in this game.not to mention way to much b.s. on the forums from people that think they know how this game was meant to be.
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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 1:35pm

Well when Priest and mages QQ"ued about getting one shot by rogues, rogues said stack more PDEF, so fitting, if you get one shot by Iceblade, well stack more MDEF and Fearless VII runes for resistance and stop the QQ. I got like 9500 resistance to magic, 285K MDEF and i don't get one shot by any casters.

We have been talking about this before but they don't understand how Iceblade was useful in PvE. They just don't want any other DPS class to make them look bad in PvP.

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 4:41pm

Quoted from "zidlef;601148"

Well when Priest and mages QQ"ued about getting one shot by rogues, rogues said stack more PDEF, so fitting, if you get one shot by Iceblade, well stack more MDEF and Fearless VII runes for resistance and stop the QQ. I got like 9500 resistance to magic, 285K MDEF and i don't get one shot by any casters.



I don't think Fearless runes really make you resist more. Someone posted that Fearless runes give you "elemental Resistance", which decreases the damage you take by that amount.
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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 5:17pm

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I don't think Fearless runes really make you resist more. Someone posted that Fearless runes give you "elemental Resistance", which decreases the damage you take by that amount.


Well i have 2 fearless VII and 3 VI and 1 of our rogues uses them also and doesn't get one shot anymore from Iceblade or Fireball ;-) so they do work. Actually trying to make more VII to get 5 VIII , one day.

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 8:21pm

personally, priest is a healing class, you aren't supposed to do DPS. So the nerf to iceblade is most welcomed by me, but I think I'm the only one who likes it this way. >.>
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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 9:57pm

So i guess because i changed over to p/m and can still wipe out almost as many in siege means "P/M is OP" because some players do not know how to counter them?????

I have about 10% less kills in siege as a p/m than I did as my P/S, using rotations with P/M to silence, lightning or freeze the worse one in the mob coming to me and killing the other 2, to freeze him again, then use intensify, icewind blade, fireball, rising tide then lightning to root them again so i can use freeze again???? So does that make P/M OP for siege if i can kill 3. Probably not, I just know who to lock down 1st, and which to kill next and how to keep them at range. But what do i know I have only played my Priest classes to be effective in siege, and very seldom play healer. I have a d/wd for that.....

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 10:06pm

Quoted from "misskatana;601181"

personally, priest is a healing class, you aren't supposed to do DPS. So the nerf to iceblade is most welcomed by me, but I think I'm the only one who likes it this way. >.>


calling it now, ur gonna get a huge GTFO from the people on this thread...

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 10:16pm

double post: p/m is NOT as bad in PvP as some people want to think...and m/p is arguably better, so I don't see how all these p/s/m keep complaining about how their entire pvp-viability is ruined...p/s/k, I mourn your loss...

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 10:36pm

Quoted from "misskatana;601181"

personally, priest is a healing class, you aren't supposed to do DPS. So the nerf to iceblade is most welcomed by me, but I think I'm the only one who likes it this way. >.>


I agree with you 100%. Priest is a healer and the fix is indeed a fix to a class that was far to easy to play in siege. Plus all the QQ from the Icebladers is great.

And to the person who asked if P/M is overpowered because it's almost as good as p/s, no it's not. If you are killing almost as many people on P/M as you did on P/S then you are good at the game. The difference is that you aren't spamming one skill. You are using rotations which is a great show of your skill in pvp.

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Thursday, May 16th 2013, 11:09pm

Quoted from "misskatana;601181"

priest is a healing class, you aren't supposed to do DPS.

Quoted from "Gutterboy;601210"

I agree with you 100%. Priest is a healer ...

Remember folks, the thread is about P/S.

(Just thought I'd post this before the P/W's rear their heads. :D)

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Friday, May 17th 2013, 12:02am

Quoted from "Gutterboy;601210"

I agree with you 100%. Priest is a healer and the fix is indeed a fix to a class that was far to easy to play in siege. Plus all the QQ from the Icebladers is great.

And to the person who asked if P/M is overpowered because it's almost as good as p/s, no it's not. If you are killing almost as many people on P/M as you did on P/S then you are good at the game. The difference is that you aren't spamming one skill. You are using rotations which is a great show of your skill in pvp.


Priest is a healer? Then W/K is a dps not a tank. Wd/w you're a dps not a tank. P/W you're a healer not a tank. Champion/Anything you're not a tank.

Different combinations are just that, DIFFERENT. P/S was a dps based priest, like P/M and P/S. Just like Wd/w is primarily a tank while the other wardens are mostly dps.

P/S actually did take skill. Bad P/S's were so ridiculously obvious. Not to mention you play a R/S.. you're really gonna talk smack about easy classes to play in PvP? Hide - lowblow - hide. Hide - combothrow throw - hide. Not even getting into all the diyce spammers in PvP.

If you weren't skilled enough to kill a P/S that's your fault, but the class was not overpowered. Mage/Priest is better. P/M can be just as good if played right. M/wd is 50x better than P/S was and always has been, especially with their new elite. Rogues in every form are better than P/S. Wardens in every form are better than P/S was.

Honestly did any of you people ever play a P/S? And by that I mean play a P/S where it matters, in high level siege? There's a reason the high levels of siege war barely had a single P/S. Look at PPK, they're all Rogues/Wardens/Scouts and a token M/wd or so. Bteam, they're Scouts/Rogues/Wardens, Heretic, we're Rogues/Wardens/Mages/Scouts, Elusive, they're Wardens/Rogues/Champions/Mages.

Priest/Scout was not, and never has been, overpowered. There are just people who were mad that they got killed by it. If that's the new argument for nerfing a class, then nerf Rogue, Nerf Wardens, Nerf Mage, Nerf Scouts, Nerf Warriors. Just nerf everybody!
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Friday, May 17th 2013, 12:20am

Quoted from "Borella;601224"

Nerf Scouts


no, not again! the horror!
my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.

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Friday, May 17th 2013, 12:21am

And Borella summed it all up for the non believers that they should never have nerfed Iceblade, NEVER.

But heck nerf any other class into the ground and see all the QQ.

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Friday, May 17th 2013, 1:37am

Quoted from "misskatana;601181"

personally, priest is a healing class, you aren't supposed to do DPS. So the nerf to iceblade is most welcomed by me

I guess P/W were just meant to be healers too...
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Friday, May 17th 2013, 1:47am

Quoted from "ruisen2000;601235"

I guess P/W were just meant to be healers too...


No, they are just meant to be useless
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Friday, May 17th 2013, 2:10am

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No, they are just meant to be useless


my r/p can outdps r/m. your name is stupid.

mages should stack dex. word.